[Speculation] Sage to the Jets?

[nero THE zero]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

If it is week #14 and the Texans are 8-4 and playing the Indy Colts for the division lead and MSchaub is out two weeks with a cracked rib, I'll take Sage Rosenfels and you can have anybody on that list of yours plus a 5th round pick... Do you really like your situation better than starting Sage Rosenfels. Don't forget, this is Sage's 4th year in this offense, throwing to this group of receivers. That's significant!

I can only hope that some other team's GM thinks as highly of Sage as you do.

It's only February and you've already forgetten the biggest meltdown in Texan history at the hands of the Rosencopter.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by nero THE zero

I can only hope that some other team's GM thinks as highly of Sage as you do.

It's only February and you've already forgetten the biggest meltdown in Texan history at the hands of the Rosencopter.

I was at the game and it almost killed me. However, I don't grade him by that ending anymore than I do his incredible comeback against Tennessee in 2007. He's a very good backup and he gives us an excellent chance to win if our starter is out. I think that is more important that a 5th round pick.

[jcp]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

I was at the game and it almost killed me. However, I don't grade him by that ending anymore than I do his incredible comeback against Tennessee in 2007. He's a very good backup and he gives us an excellent chance to win if our starter is out. I think that is more important that a 5th round pick.

For a fifth I agree, but if we can find a team willing to part with a 3...

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by jcp

For a fifth I agree, but if we can find a team willing to part with a 3...

I would've done the deal for a 2nd last year. I actually got excited about a Sage trade when they picked up the guy from Jacksonville (can't remember his name)... I'd do it for a 3rd this year but only if they had a reasonable plan in place for a backup- not Craig Nall, not a late round rookie.

[barrett]

I'd do it for a 4th. Maybe even an early 5th. I just doubt Kubiak will. We likely won't see a huge short term payoff from a 2nd day pick, and Kubs is coaching for his job next year. Young potential does not do him any good.

Either way I think you'll see another QB in place ahead of time if they have any intention of dealing (like Gray last year).

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by barrett

I just doubt Kubiak will. We likely won't see a huge short term payoff from a 2nd day pick, and Kubs is coaching for his job next year. Young potential does not do him any good.

That's why we have a GM. In theory, the GM is supposed to make decisions that makes the team better for the long haul. Basically, we are under the impression that Smith works for Kubiak around here. What is the possibility that the GM fires the coach, but we keep the GM?

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Roy P

That's why we have a GM. In theory, the GM is supposed to make decisions that makes the team better for the long haul. Basically, we are under the impression that Smith works for Kubiak around here. What is the possibility that the GM fires the coach, but we keep the GM?

you got to let the guy buy his groceries.

It's his sink or swim year, so I bet he doesn't get over ridden on small decisions like that.

[Bigtinylittle]

Originally Posted by barrett

I'd do it for a 4th. Maybe even an early 5th. I just doubt Kubiak will. We likely won't see a huge short term payoff from a 2nd day pick, and Kubs is coaching for his job next year. Young potential does not do him any good.

Either way I think you'll see another QB in place ahead of time if they have any intention of dealing (like Gray last year).

I know there was a rumor last year that Minnesota offered a 3rd for Sage, and it seems like everone in town besides me accepts it as fact. Rumors get started all the time for all sorts of reasons. Sportswriters start them sometimes just to have something to write about (think Richard Justice). Agents start them just to grease the wheels for their clients. I wouldn't even be surprised if owners and GMs start false rumors. Anyway, unless I find out otherwise, I'm going to assume there's a good chance that offer was never actually made.

I personally think that these days Sage's stock has fallen below his real talent level. It's interesting how much difference a year makes. A year ago many fans were saying that we wasted a couple of draft choices and a lot of cap space on Schaub and that Sage could easily handle the starter position. Some of those same people no longer even want him as a BACKUP.

I agree he played about as poor a quarter last year as any I have ever seen. I also think he played three good quarters in that same game. Sage is neither as bad as he looked at times last year or as good as he appeared to be to many fans two years ago. But he's a cheap and fairly reliable backup. Those who cite his win-loss record last year should think about what kind of record they expect from a backup QB who is playing on a team with the league's twenty seventh best defense.

I just don't see him being traded for a low draft choice.