Texans Sign Cletis Gordon?

WMH · #1 08-28-2009, 12:16 PM

From the Examiner:
http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Housto...ign-cornerback

"Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune is reporting via his twitter page that the Texans have signed former Chargers cornerback, Cletis Gordon (aka 'Flash' according to his website).

No word on who was released to make room for Gordon.

Gordon, who was released by the Chargers Monday, was a restricted free agent for the Chargers in 2009 and received a second round tender which he signed earlier this year.

A second round tender is the third highest of four RFA tenders, worth $1.545 million for one year and second round compensation to the Chargers if another team signed Gordon to an offer sheet the Chargers refused to match.

Gordon, out of Jackson State, joined the Chargers in 2006 as an undrafted free agent.

In this artcle by Acee which appeared Monday on signonsandiego.com, Gordon was described as the Chargers 'fourth corner.'

Acee also described Gordon's release as "surprising because of the potential of the player involved," but it was also reported that the Chargers were displeased with Gordon's "lack of physicality and effort on special teams."

Sometimes getting released can snap a player back into reality. And it's a win-win if the Texans become the beneficiary. It will be up to David Gibbs to coach him up.

Gordon is a big corner (6-1" 205) and could help shore up a Texans secondary that's been weakened by Jacques Reeves broken leg (he could return by Week 2) and Dunta Robinson's ongoing disagreement with the front office."

Smithiak must be REALLY worried about the secondary........

kravix · #2 08-28-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WMH

Smithiak must be REALLY worried about the secondary........

I am starting to worry about it to. Holdouts, injuries, and lack of experience make a weak secondary weaker.

I would say he has the potential to be more than a camp body, and depending on how things start shaking out could be starting week 1.

Nconroe · #3 08-28-2009, 07:56 PM

well, that get's us to 12 CB's on the 80 man roster. I guess they are trying to find guys who will tackle as well as cover. From what I read Clevis was not really known as a good tackler or on special teams, but you never know. Probably we keep six.

NBT · #4 08-29-2009, 12:24 PM

Well, that pretty much shows how worried they are about the CB position. I am underwhelmed with this addition. I hope this guy doesn't end up being a "flash" in the pan!

HPF Bob · #5 08-29-2009, 12:26 PM

Even Commissioner Gordon would be a help back there right now...

Mike · #6 08-29-2009, 12:57 PM

It is all about bringing in guys who have some ability. With Cato going to the IR, this move does not cost us anything and we get to take a look at him. The Chargers must have liked
Him or they would not have slapped a high tender on him. If we take 6 db's out of camp I figure it will be
Dunta, Jacques, Fred, Molden, Quinn, and Mccain. Unless they think they can ps one of the rooks (mccain) he would be looking to be the 6th cb.

Bigtinylittle · #7 08-30-2009, 10:30 AM

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he's at least on a par with Faggins.

TheMatrix31 · #8 08-30-2009, 12:31 PM

I've been worried about our secondary for like, 4 years now.

NBT · #9 08-30-2009, 04:26 PM

The CB situation is, by far the most unsettled group going into the season, and Mr. Robinson is off visiting other neighborhoods, instead of being in camp learning what Gibbs expects of him. Either McCain or Quin will have to be put on the PS, and Robinson will have to sit till he can be counted on in the new system. I sure hope Reeves can come back early from that ankle injury. If I were enemy coordinators i would test the CB's early and often.

painekiller · #10 08-30-2009, 05:57 PM

The only way this makes sense is they want him to be a returner. He is not a very good CB.

I would rather them sign Ty Law or play Deltha O'Neal.

Sometimes Rick Smith does things that I can not figure out.

barrett · #11 08-30-2009, 07:02 PM

lets see what this is before we decide if it makes sense. We haven't even cut down to 75 guys yet and have no idea if he will make the team. If he does it will be because he is currently better than one of the guys who don't.

So basically we gave nothing gauranteed to a guy who may or may not be better than our 5th/6th CB. He may or may not make the team depending on injury recovery, franchised CBs, unknown rookies, and how he plays the next week or so.

So what doesn't make sense about the signing? I can't understand signing a street FA to ever be bad unless you are cutting someone who may be valuable (and we cut nobody). It is no risk and small reward.

painekiller · #12 08-30-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett

lets see what this is before we decide if it makes sense. We haven't even cut down to 75 guys yet and have no idea if he will make the team. If he does it will be because he is currently better than one of the guys who don't.

So basically we gave nothing gauranteed to a guy who may or may not be better than our 5th/6th CB. He may or may not make the team depending on injury recovery, franchised CBs, unknown rookies, and how he plays the next week or so.

So what doesn't make sense about the signing? I can't understand signing a street FA to ever be bad unless you are cutting someone who may be valuable (and we cut nobody). It is no risk and small reward.

The guy is not a good special teamer, he was cut because he shied away from contact. I'm sorry I do not see him being better than our 7th or 8th best CB.

Dunta and Reeves are the two starters. Bennett and Molden should be the back ups. McCain and Quinn have had to much tape to be assured they clear waivers.

That is 6 guys, how many CBs are you carrying? Matterral Richardson, and David Pittman have had decent camps and then add less than a week of O'Neal.

In all my time of following football, I do not remember to many cases of a guy being added to the roster a week before final cutdowns and that guy making the team.

barrett · #13 08-30-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

The guy is not a good special teamer, he was cut because he shied away from contact. I'm sorry I do not see him being better than our 7th or 8th best CB.

Dunta and Reeves are the two starters. Bennett and Molden should be the back ups. McCain and Quinn have had to much tape to be assured they clear waivers.

That is 6 guys, how many CBs are you carrying? Matterral Richardson, and David Pittman have had decent camps and then add less than a week of O'Neal.

In all my time of following football, I do not remember to many cases of a guy being added to the roster a week before final cutdowns and that guy making the team.

So if your conclusion is he won't make the team, then why is it a bad signing? We get 80 spots and it would be dumb to not use them all until we are required to make cuts. We have nothing invested in the guy and our coaches get to take a look at one more guy. No downside there.

Keith · #14 08-31-2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

In all my time of following football, I do not remember to many cases of a guy being added to the roster a week before final cutdowns and that guy making the team.

Oh sure, it happens, but maybe moreso when a team adds a player cut from another team... Gordon sort of applies in this scenario, but since he was let go before the mandatory cutdown, maybe not.

Guys like Eugene Wilson, Rashad Butler, and Jason Bell if you go way back might qualify as players signed/claimed for keeps after camp was over.

I get both points though. Why bother with the hassle to sign a guy this late if he's likely gonna be cut anyway? I think because Gordon has a chance of not getting cut. With Dunta predictable rusty and Reeves out for week 1, that last bubble spot on the final 53 could go to an extra corner.

I'm guessing Gordon ought to play a decent amount against the Bucs (though I think Bennett, Molden, Quin, and McCain need all the reps they can get), and his old team must have seen something in him at some point to tender him what they did. As for playing O'Neal or signing Law, well... I'm guessing this has something to say about what Rick Smith thinks of them in the year 2009.

painekiller · #15 08-31-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith

Guys like Eugene Wilson, Rashad Butler, and Jason Bell if you go way back might qualify as players signed/claimed for keeps after camp was over.

Watching the waiver wire during the cut downs is a different animal. And during the season you can find gems.

NBT · #16 09-01-2009, 05:58 PM

Now that was a real "Flash", as in Gordon is gone before he could unpack his bags? Or did he ever even show up?

edo783 · #17 09-01-2009, 07:42 PM

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Now that was a real "Flash", as in Gordon is gone before he could unpack his bags? Or did he ever even show up?

Almost as fast of an exit as Chan Gailey's.

kravix · #18 09-01-2009, 11:42 PM

That was fast.

All i can think is he had some conditioning/attitude issues, hence the reasons the Chargers let go of him, or the recent comments about Reeves making a possible Game 1 appearance are more than enthusiasm. It could also mean there has been some communication with DRob and he will appear within the next day or so.

It is also possible that he was just a camp body, but it seems very very odd.

Nconroe · #19 09-02-2009, 09:19 AM

or maybe this is a way to help him find another team more quickly since he fairly obviously wasn't one of our top 7 choices for CB.

WMH · #20 09-02-2009, 09:40 AM

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or maybe this is a way to help him find another team more quickly since he fairly obviously wasn't one of our top 7 choices for CB.

That would be very Texan-like. I think they have done that for a few guys over the last couple of years. For the most part, Dunta's ordeal aside, it seems like they are a standup group of coaches/managers, and that can only help us with FA's as the churn of players continues. Guys talk, and if you got the cash (which McNair does), and folks are treated fairly, then we will be considered by some good ones.