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Old 02-24-2009, 08:22 PM
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The UFA rules change in an uncapped year though, as DeMeco and Daniels would be RFAs next year.

Well... how's about this?? A Panthers message board is starting to think Houston might be a destination for Peppers based on pretty much the same factors we've already discussed in our forums.

http://www.carolinagrowl.com/Message...g=posts&t=5780

Peppers supposedly likes the Houston area and his agent Carl Carey lives here somewhere. Carey even informed the Panthers of Peppers' decision to leave Carolina from Houston. Peppers works out with Danny Arnold at Plex near Sugarland.

Peppers called Houston his second home in a 2004 interview:
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IGN Sports: Your team came to Houston during the season to face the Texans; does it help you to be familiar with the surroundings of the stadium as far as comfort zone?

Peppers: Actually, I work out in the off season here in Texas so I am very familiar with this whole surrounding. I look at this as my second home or my home away from home. I know my way around this city very well here.
Worth noting... when the Vikings acquired Jared Allen, who had been tagged by the Chiefs, it took a first rounder and two third rounders, plus a contract reported to have $31 million in guarantees over six years.
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Old 02-24-2009, 09:03 PM
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The UFA rules change in an uncapped year though, as DeMeco and Daniels would be RFAs next year.

Well... how's about this?? A Panthers message board is starting to think Houston might be a destination for Peppers based on pretty much the same factors we've already discussed in our forums.

http://www.carolinagrowl.com/Message...g=posts&t=5780

Peppers supposedly likes the Houston area and his agent Carl Carey lives here somewhere. Carey even informed the Panthers of Peppers' decision to leave Carolina from Houston. Peppers works out with Danny Arnold at Plex near Sugarland.

Peppers called Houston his second home in a 2004 interview:


Worth noting... when the Vikings acquired Jared Allen, who had been tagged by the Chiefs, it took a first rounder and two third rounders, plus a contract reported to have $31 million in guarantees over six years.

I have zero interest in Peppers coming here. Not only would he cost too much in draftpick compensation but his contract would also cost us in terms of not being able to sign or re-sign players of interest. For a guy approaching 30 with inconsistent results and effort, I say, "no thank you!".
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Old 02-24-2009, 11:23 PM
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I have zero interest in Peppers coming here. Not only would he cost too much in draftpick compensation but his contract would also cost us in terms of not being able to sign or re-sign players of interest. For a guy approaching 30 with inconsistent results and effort, I say, "no thank you!".
What he said.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:58 AM
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This just in from the guy who thought the 4th round was the 1st round of Day 2 (this would be me)...


I'd love to see Peppers in a Texans uniform. Now that I no longer care one hill of beans about the salary cap and compare the players on the Redskins and Cowgirls year after year verses ours....sign everybody you want! That's what those two teams do and yet we have had players that can't make it in Canada while being maxed out on cap room.

Sign Peppers! And Haynesworth too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-25-2009, 01:15 AM
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Okay, I organized all this Peppers info into a single article with supporting linkage. Enjoy the mental holiday...

http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20090225.html
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Old 02-25-2009, 09:32 AM
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Okay, I organized all this Peppers info into a single article with supporting linkage. Enjoy the mental holiday...

http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20090225.html

The thought of Peppers teamed with Mario is exciting...I doubt it will happen, but it would be fun to watch. I know Peppers has been accused of disappearing and taking plays off, but I know there's a tendency when a sack guy isn't getting sacks to say that he's coasting. Even if it's not the case. So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. My biggest concern is what is going to happen when Mario wants a new deal. If we have to give Peppers close to 30 MILL gauranteed, what are we going to have to give Mario in a few years who is a better all around player IMO??? I would like to have Peppers, but I don't know that I would if it makes it hard to keep OD, Demeco, and Dunta. There's just so much uncertainty with the CBA. Any big move like this is even more risky than in a normal year.
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Old 02-25-2009, 03:29 AM
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This just in from the guy who thought the 4th round was the 1st round of Day 2 (this would be me)...


I'd love to see Peppers in a Texans uniform. Now that I no longer care one hill of beans about the salary cap and compare the players on the Redskins and Cowgirls year after year verses ours....sign everybody you want! That's what those two teams do and yet we have had players that can't make it in Canada while being maxed out on cap room.

Sign Peppers! And Haynesworth too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hardly thing we want to model our organization after those two. How about comparing our playoff wins in the last decade to the Cowboys and Redskins. Oh, that's right, they would combine for one more than us.
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Old 02-25-2009, 05:35 AM
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I hardly thing we want to model our organization after those two. How about comparing our playoff wins in the last decade to the Cowboys and Redskins. Oh, that's right, they would combine for one more than us.
But yet, they can make the playoffs or be in the running for division titles and we can't. Your analogy is like saying it's a bad thing to be dating the 3rd best looking Victoria Secret model.
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Old 02-25-2009, 07:25 AM
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But yet, they can make the playoffs or be in the running for division titles and we can't. Your analogy is like saying it's a bad thing to be dating the 3rd best looking Victoria Secret model.
You're kidding! Redskin fans are miserable and hopeless because Dan Snyder is young and will never learn. Cowboy fans are too dumb to realize how bad it is for them. The current Texan organization is vastly superior than the current Redskin or Cowboy organization.
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Old 02-25-2009, 01:40 PM
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I hardly thing we want to model our organization after those two. How about comparing our playoff wins in the last decade to the Cowboys and Redskins. Oh, that's right, they would combine for one more than us.

You totally missed my point. Those teams consistently have players I would love to see on our team (most teams would love to have many of their players). But we have suffered through the the most mediocre players and still have been maxed out on cap room.

And management/coaching is the reason those teams can't win more games...they definitely have the talent to win more games, including playoff games. Those tow teams know how to get superior players, they just don't kow what to do with them when they get them...excluding pacman Jones.
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Old 02-25-2009, 02:27 PM
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You totally missed my point. Those teams consistently have players I would love to see on our team (most teams would love to have many of their players). But we have suffered through the the most mediocre players and still have been maxed out on cap room.

And management/coaching is the reason those teams can't win more games...they definitely have the talent to win more games, including playoff games. Those tow teams know how to get superior players, they just don't kow what to do with them when they get them...excluding pacman Jones.
We are absolutely not in cap trouble. So whatever happened years ago, we are not in cap trouble with mediocre players. We are in a great cap situation.

The colts and patriots spend wisely (one on their own talent and the other on bargain free agents). Neither spends huge money in FA. And they are the undoubted models of long term consistency in the league. I would hope the Texans are smart enough to follow suit. The skins and boys are proof that the NFL is more than a spending contest.

Now one FA signing does not make for an irresponsible spending spree. I don't mind overpaying for a single player if he makes a difference (you overpay for any FA). My problem is with your idea that those two teams are a good model of how to aquire talent.
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Old 02-25-2009, 03:14 PM
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You totally missed my point. Those teams consistently have players I would love to see on our team (most teams would love to have many of their players). But we have suffered through the the most mediocre players and still have been maxed out on cap room.

And management/coaching is the reason those teams can't win more games...they definitely have the talent to win more games, including playoff games. Those tow teams know how to get superior players, they just don't kow what to do with them when they get them...excluding pacman Jones.
You are confusing the ramifications from the former organization led by Casserly, with the current one. We've been dealing with ridiculous contracts and dead money from the Casserly years. All of that has now been cleared and the team's main challenge is re-signing all these very good draft picks that have been coming down the pike the past 3 seasons. After the wonderful cuts today, we are more than $25 million under the cap heading into free agency. This is the first season that the handcuffs are off of Rick Smith. Look for some significant signings. However, you should be thrilled that they won't make the splashes in the media that Snyder and Jones do. Those guys are horrible with the cap and with personnel decisions. I have no idea what you are envious of?:

Pacman Jones
T. O.
Leonard Davis at Guard for $50 million?
Randle El for $30 million?
trading a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round pick for Roy Williams?

ugggh! I don't know why an educated football fan would want anything to do with those organizations...

The Cowboys had a couple good drafts but that was when Jerry gave control to Bill Parcells- of course, then he blew that up and signed T.O. against the Tunas' wishes and got rid of Bill in order to run the organization himself again. Thanks but no thanks!
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Old 02-25-2009, 07:06 AM
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Sign Peppers! And Haynesworth too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's what I'm talking about ! If you're gonna dream, really dream big, be all-in with it.
With a DLine featuring Mario, Peppers, & Haynesworth any warm body could play the 3-technique. Keith maybe ? I say lets give real meaning to fantasy football.
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