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Old 02-24-2009, 10:43 AM
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I was thinking Crowder too.

AS far as Haynesworth. I know how dominant he can be, but he's never played a full season and I saw a stat the other day that he only plays about 60% of the defensive stats. I like when teams rotate their lineman to keep them fresh, but I'm not sure I want to pay the highest salary of any defensive players when he's a guy who is hurt a lot and he is off the field for 40% of the plays anyway. I think he either stays in Tenn. or someone give him a ridiculous amount of money and I doubt that will be us.

And yet he was still in the converstation for MVP of the entire league... For a DT to even be mentioned in that conversation, let alone one who you say only plays 60% of the snaps, that's domination. I'll take him on my team.
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Old 02-24-2009, 10:51 AM
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And yet he was still in the converstation for MVP of the entire league... For a DT to even be mentioned in that conversation, let alone one who you say only plays 60% of the snaps, that's domination. I'll take him on my team.
I know. I would be pumped even though I don't like the guy. I just think it's a huge risk to give a guy like that so much money. The money he wants he will likely hinder our ability to hold onto some other guys in the future if we signed him.
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Old 02-24-2009, 12:01 PM
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And yet he was still in the converstation for MVP of the entire league... For a DT to even be mentioned in that conversation, let alone one who you say only plays 60% of the snaps, that's domination. I'll take him on my team.
As PB said, it will hinder the retention of our core guys. Would you sign Haynesworth, if the cap ramifications prevented us from resigning Ryans and Daniels, or Dunta and Ryans or Mario Williams down the road?

I wouldn't.
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Old 02-24-2009, 12:55 PM
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As PB said, it will hinder the retention of our core guys. Would you sign Haynesworth, if the cap ramifications prevented us from resigning Ryans and Daniels, or Dunta and Ryans or Mario Williams down the road?

I wouldn't.
I don't think it's quite the doomsday scenario as you're making it out to be.
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Old 02-24-2009, 01:03 PM
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I don't think it's quite the doomsday scenario as you're making it out to be.
Zierlein Report is that the Redskins are going to offer a 100 mill a year at 15-16 Mill a year. That's elite QB money...higher than the franchise tag this year that Cassel is getting if I'm not mistaken. Definitely could be a cap issue, but it's hard to say what kind if any cap there will be over the life of this deal.

http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/
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Old 02-24-2009, 01:16 PM
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Zierlein Report is that the Redskins are going to offer a 100 mill a year at 15-16 Mill a year. That's elite QB money...higher than the franchise tag this year that Cassel is getting if I'm not mistaken. Definitely could be a cap issue, but it's hard to say what kind if any cap there will be over the life of this deal.

http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/
I would HOPE the Texans would not do something like that. SERIOUS cap issues coming for the Redskins.
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Old 02-24-2009, 01:36 PM
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Zierlein Report is that the Redskins are going to offer a 100 mill a year at 15-16 Mill a year. That's elite QB money...higher than the franchise tag this year that Cassel is getting if I'm not mistaken. Definitely could be a cap issue, but it's hard to say what kind if any cap there will be over the life of this deal.

http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/

Which was to be expected as many had stated the past few days. He's an impact player that has shown to dominate the game. Whether or not he deserves that kind of contract... How's it any different than giving a similar amount to the number one overall pick who is likely, if not as much, an even bigger risk. I just don't think it's a "sky is falling" scenario that people make it out to be. It's the climate of the NFL. Larry Fitzgerald has roughly 28 million in guaranteed money in his new deal and Asomugha's first two years of his 3 year 45 million dollar contract are guaranteed. Haynesworth would likely receive similar guaranteed money.
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Old 02-24-2009, 01:51 PM
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Which was to be expected as many had stated the past few days. He's an impact player that has shown to dominate the game. Whether or not he deserves that kind of contract... How's it any different than giving a similar amount to the number one overall pick who is likely, if not as much, an even bigger risk. I just don't think it's a "sky is falling" scenario that people make it out to be. It's the climate of the NFL. Larry Fitzgerald has roughly 28 million in guaranteed money in his new deal and Asomugha's first two years of his 3 year 45 million dollar contract are guaranteed. Haynesworth would likely receive similar guaranteed money.

What is gauranteed in the deal is the key, and we don't know that yet. I'm sure the high salaries would be on the end of the contract too. If he is getting 15 million a year, that's QB money, ELITE QB money and I think would almost definitely have cap implications or at least affect how much payroll room you have to maneuver at some point. It is probably better to wait until someone who knows what they are doing(Keith) can see the actual terms to decide though...of course it's hard to say after this year.
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Old 02-24-2009, 01:59 PM
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Which was to be expected as many had stated the past few days. He's an impact player that has shown to dominate the game. Whether or not he deserves that kind of contract... How's it any different than giving a similar amount to the number one overall pick who is likely, if not as much, an even bigger risk. I just don't think it's a "sky is falling" scenario that people make it out to be. It's the climate of the NFL. Larry Fitzgerald has roughly 28 million in guaranteed money in his new deal and Asomugha's first two years of his 3 year 45 million dollar contract are guaranteed. Haynesworth would likely receive similar guaranteed money.
well, one difference is that a rookie . . .even the first pick isn't gonna get a 100 million dollar contract, also, I would bet that haynesworth will have significantly more guarenteed money than asomugha
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:11 PM
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I think we might be seeing some of the last capped year / uncapped year coming into play here. The Redskins are definitely a "have", and if there is a team that would spend up to their eyeballs in an uncapped situation, it would be Dan Snyder and the Skins.

I think with the Texans tagging Dunta, cutting off talks with DeMeco, and (in what appears likely) tendering Owen Daniels instead of offering a new contract, the Texans might be putting off their big money deals to the uncapped year in 2010, too. Verrrrrrrrryyyy interestink /GermanSoldierVoiceFromLaughIn.

Credit to LZ for sure, but I think Peter King made mention of Haynesworth's agent being in D.C. in his last MMQB... this news isn't a total shock to me.
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