"Hints Dropped" by Kubiak - Is there a MegaBUXXX Signing on the Way?

[gunn]

Originally Posted by papabear

Zierlein Report is that the Redskins are going to offer a 100 mill a year at 15-16 Mill a year. That's elite QB money...higher than the franchise tag this year that Cassel is getting if I'm not mistaken. Definitely could be a cap issue, but it's hard to say what kind if any cap there will be over the life of this deal.

http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/

Which was to be expected as many had stated the past few days. He's an impact player that has shown to dominate the game. Whether or not he deserves that kind of contract... How's it any different than giving a similar amount to the number one overall pick who is likely, if not as much, an even bigger risk. I just don't think it's a "sky is falling" scenario that people make it out to be. It's the climate of the NFL. Larry Fitzgerald has roughly 28 million in guaranteed money in his new deal and Asomugha's first two years of his 3 year 45 million dollar contract are guaranteed. Haynesworth would likely receive similar guaranteed money.

[papabear]

Originally Posted by gunn

Which was to be expected as many had stated the past few days. He's an impact player that has shown to dominate the game. Whether or not he deserves that kind of contract... How's it any different than giving a similar amount to the number one overall pick who is likely, if not as much, an even bigger risk. I just don't think it's a "sky is falling" scenario that people make it out to be. It's the climate of the NFL. Larry Fitzgerald has roughly 28 million in guaranteed money in his new deal and Asomugha's first two years of his 3 year 45 million dollar contract are guaranteed. Haynesworth would likely receive similar guaranteed money.

What is gauranteed in the deal is the key, and we don't know that yet. I'm sure the high salaries would be on the end of the contract too. If he is getting 15 million a year, that's QB money, ELITE QB money and I think would almost definitely have cap implications or at least affect how much payroll room you have to maneuver at some point. It is probably better to wait until someone who knows what they are doing(Keith) can see the actual terms to decide though...of course it's hard to say after this year.

[cadams]

Originally Posted by gunn

Which was to be expected as many had stated the past few days. He's an impact player that has shown to dominate the game. Whether or not he deserves that kind of contract... How's it any different than giving a similar amount to the number one overall pick who is likely, if not as much, an even bigger risk. I just don't think it's a "sky is falling" scenario that people make it out to be. It's the climate of the NFL. Larry Fitzgerald has roughly 28 million in guaranteed money in his new deal and Asomugha's first two years of his 3 year 45 million dollar contract are guaranteed. Haynesworth would likely receive similar guaranteed money.

well, one difference is that a rookie . . .even the first pick isn't gonna get a 100 million dollar contract, also, I would bet that haynesworth will have significantly more guarenteed money than asomugha

[Keith]

I think we might be seeing some of the last capped year / uncapped year coming into play here. The Redskins are definitely a "have", and if there is a team that would spend up to their eyeballs in an uncapped situation, it would be Dan Snyder and the Skins.

I think with the Texans tagging Dunta, cutting off talks with DeMeco, and (in what appears likely) tendering Owen Daniels instead of offering a new contract, the Texans might be putting off their big money deals to the uncapped year in 2010, too. Verrrrrrrrryyyy interestink /GermanSoldierVoiceFromLaughIn.

Credit to LZ for sure, but I think Peter King made mention of Haynesworth's agent being in D.C. in his last MMQB... this news isn't a total shock to me.

[papabear]

Originally Posted by Keith

I think we might be seeing some of the last capped year / uncapped year coming into play here. The Redskins are definitely a "have", and if there is a team that would spend up to their eyeballs in an uncapped situation, it would be Dan Snyder and the Skins.

I think with the Texans tagging Dunta, cutting off talks with DeMeco, and (in what appears likely) tendering Owen Daniels instead of offering a new contract, the Texans might be putting off their big money deals to the uncapped year in 2010, too. Verrrrrrrrryyyy interestink /GermanSoldierVoiceFromLaughIn.

Credit to LZ for sure, but I think Peter King made mention of Haynesworth's agent being in D.C. in his last MMQB... this news isn't a total shock to me.

King mentioned Fat Al's agent had dinner with Synder. Clayton also mentioned the possibility of a team, maybe the skins, offering him 100+ Mill a few days ago.

There's only one reason that the Texans could be putting off deals for guys like Demeco and Daniels in my mind. They want extra room to go after a free agent...or two? With the uncapped year looming and the almost certainty that salaries go up (assuming our financial system isn't more F'ed up then than it is now) it would make sense to get two guys who are almost certain to be a part of your long term plan locked up now. I would really like it if they got deals done for these two before the season starts though.

[nero THE zero]

Does Rick Smith's position in the competition committee give him an inside track on the liklihood of an uncapped '10?

Making a big signing, or many healthy signings, is a gamble given the uncertainty of the cap situation next season. But, if a GM has some insight that leads him to believe the cap is ending (like having a seat on the competition committee) and has an owner who is of the wealthier persuasion (like Bob McNair) it might make him more likely to make a big splash.

I keep dismissing the whole Peppers notion as nonsense, but the things that have been happening lately keep reviving it.

[papabear]

Originally Posted by nero THE zero

Does Rick Smith's position in the competition committee give him an inside track on the liklihood of an uncapped '10?

Making a big signing, or many healthy signings, is a gamble given the uncertainty of the cap situation next season. But, if a GM has some insight that leads him to believe the cap is ending (like having a seat on the competition committee) and has an owner who is of the wealthier persuasion (like Bob McNair) it might make him more likely to make a big splash.

I keep dismissing the whole Peppers notion as nonsense, but the things that have been happening lately keep reviving it.

The competition committee is the one who makes recommendations on rule changes...force out rule, overtime, etc. Game day stuff, and even then my understanding is that it is only a recommendation that the league (owners) vote on. I don't see where that would offer any kind of insight into the labor negotiations. Revenue sharing and salary cap stuff is solely the domain of the owners and the NFLPA. McNair might feel he's got an idea of where the negotiations are headed and given that as guidance to the front office guys. Even then he only has a part of the equation. The lower revenue teams probably have completely different objectives than McNair. Not to mention that the NFLPA is leaderless right now, so there's no way to really gauge what they will want and how hard they will fight to get it.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by nero THE zero

I keep dismissing the whole Peppers notion as nonsense, but the things that have been happening lately keep reviving it.

I don't really think Peppers is coming here either, but he would be one guy that sure could keep Mario at RDE.

As for hints... in the DeMeco interview on 790 this morning, it sure seemed like DeMeco thought there was potential for something big in free agency. (click here to read a few quotes I transcribed).

Of course, DeMeco could be speculating like the rest of us. Or it could be that Rick Smith might have mentioned something to he and Dunta during negotiations too about why they aren't signing their own to mega deals just yet... I'm reading tea leaves here, but maybe Smith might need to keep the available cash ready for a big free agent signing bonus..?? hmmmm....

[Bigtinylittle]

I don't want Haynesworth and it's because I look a player in terms of whether he outperforms his contract. That's the key to winning in the NFL. Get abunch of guys like Owens, Ryans, Slaton, etc. any you have a recipe for a very solid team. We just got rid of Carr, Green, Greenwood, and maybe now Weaver. They were taking cap money that we could have been paying guys who were difference makers on the field.

I'm very leery of giving huge cap money to guys that are in their last contract. The minute their talent declines or their effort declines, you are stuck, stuck, stuck. No thanks.

[nero THE zero]

Originally Posted by Keith

I don't really think Peppers is coming here either, but he would be one guy that sure could keep Mario at RDE.

As for hints... in the DeMeco interview on 790 this morning, it sure seemed like DeMeco thought there was potential for something big in free agency. (click here to read a few quotes I transcribed).

Of course, DeMeco could be speculating like the rest of us. Or it could be that Rick Smith might have mentioned something to he and Dunta during negotiations too about why they aren't signing their own to mega deals just yet... I'm reading tea leaves here, but maybe Smith might need to keep the available cash ready for a big free agent signing bonus..?? hmmmm....

Yep.
1. McClain's insistence that the Texans won't be adding a smallish RDE, but a legitimate LDE.
2. Kubiak's recent comments
3. The impending release of Weaver
4. The cap clearing (Greenwood, Green)
5. The stockpiling of picks (Sage, Jacoby)

And now even DeMeco's comments.

That's not to say that something huge is bound to happen. But, this is one of those instances where if something huge did happen, you'd look back and say, "How did I not see this coming, all the tell-tale signs were there."

[kravix]

Originally Posted by Keith

I think we might be seeing some of the last capped year / uncapped year coming into play here. The Redskins are definitely a "have", and if there is a team that would spend up to their eyeballs in an uncapped situation, it would be Dan Snyder and the Skins.

I think with the Texans tagging Dunta, cutting off talks with DeMeco, and (in what appears likely) tendering Owen Daniels instead of offering a new contract, the Texans might be putting off their big money deals to the uncapped year in 2010, too. Verrrrrrrrryyyy interestink /GermanSoldierVoiceFromLaughIn.

Credit to LZ for sure, but I think Peter King made mention of Haynesworth's agent being in D.C. in his last MMQB... this news isn't a total shock to me.

But why not lock these guys in long term now paying less money than they will get in an uncapped league, "year" is decieving because I dont see it changing for 10+ years if they go uncapped at all.

If the league goes uncapped, Demeco and Daniels will be UFA and still get paid less. That is no way to treat your star players though. They have both out performed their rookkie contracts and should be rewarded. I would never pay my best employee minimum wage while bringing in lesser talent that gets paid alot more.

[Keith]

The UFA rules change in an uncapped year though, as DeMeco and Daniels would be RFAs next year.

Well... how's about this?? A Panthers message board is starting to think Houston might be a destination for Peppers based on pretty much the same factors we've already discussed in our forums.

http://www.carolinagrowl.com/Message...g=posts&t=5780

Peppers supposedly likes the Houston area and his agent Carl Carey lives here somewhere. Carey even informed the Panthers of Peppers' decision to leave Carolina from Houston. Peppers works out with Danny Arnold at Plex near Sugarland.

Peppers called Houston his second home in a 2004 interview:

IGN Sports: Your team came to Houston during the season to face the Texans; does it help you to be familiar with the surroundings of the stadium as far as comfort zone?

Peppers: Actually, I work out in the off season here in Texas so I am very familiar with this whole surrounding. I look at this as my second home or my home away from home. I know my way around this city very well here.

Worth noting... when the Vikings acquired Jared Allen, who had been tagged by the Chiefs, it took a first rounder and two third rounders, plus a contract reported to have $31 million in guarantees over six years.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by Keith

The UFA rules change in an uncapped year though, as DeMeco and Daniels would be RFAs next year.

Well... how's about this?? A Panthers message board is starting to think Houston might be a destination for Peppers based on pretty much the same factors we've already discussed in our forums.

http://www.carolinagrowl.com/Message...g=posts&t=5780

Peppers supposedly likes the Houston area and his agent Carl Carey lives here somewhere. Carey even informed the Panthers of Peppers' decision to leave Carolina from Houston. Peppers works out with Danny Arnold at Plex near Sugarland.

Peppers called Houston his second home in a 2004 interview:


Worth noting... when the Vikings acquired Jared Allen, who had been tagged by the Chiefs, it took a first rounder and two third rounders, plus a contract reported to have $31 million in guarantees over six years.

I have zero interest in Peppers coming here. Not only would he cost too much in draftpick compensation but his contract would also cost us in terms of not being able to sign or re-sign players of interest. For a guy approaching 30 with inconsistent results and effort, I say, "no thank you!".

[jppaul]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

I have zero interest in Peppers coming here. Not only would he cost too much in draftpick compensation but his contract would also cost us in terms of not being able to sign or re-sign players of interest. For a guy approaching 30 with inconsistent results and effort, I say, "no thank you!".

What he said.

[kRocket]

Originally Posted by kravix

...I would never pay my best employee minimum wage while bringing in lesser talent that gets paid a lot more.

You don't run many corporations do you ? I worked in them for 35 years and saw it all the time.