Dunta and Adibi Will Start vs. Browns

[papabear]

Originally Posted by mussop

This coaching staff is slow to play young players. They already have a track record of it.

Really? If anything they rushed Jacoby into playing time. They had no problem naming Lundy the starter at RB, or getting slaton into the mix early. They played Bennett last year when he was playing well enough to deserve it.

Bennet has the most potential, but he hasn't played very well this year (nor has anyone else back there). I would like to see Molden play to get an idea of what we've got, but the coaches have watched him through training camp and at practice every week so I know they already have a decent idea.

Should the young guys be playing? Probably, but Kubiak knows he needs to show something in these last five games to keep his job status secure. Same for Smith. They are going to go with the guys that give them the best chance to win. The veterans on the team are smart enough to know when a young guy is getting PT just for being young. It sends a sign to the team that they have given up for the year, and I can't blame Kubiak for not wanting to send that message.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by papabear

Really? If anything they rushed Jacoby into playing time. They had no problem naming Lundy the starter at RB, or getting slaton into the mix early. They played Bennett last year when he was playing well enough to deserve it.

Bennet has the most potential, but he hasn't played very well this year (nor has anyone else back there). I would like to see Molden play to get an idea of what we've got, but the coaches have watched him through training camp and at practice every week so I know they already have a decent idea.

Should the young guys be playing? Probably, but Kubiak knows he needs to show something in these last five games to keep his job status secure. Same for Smith. They are going to go with the guys that give them the best chance to win. The veterans on the team are smart enough to know when a young guy is getting PT just for being young. It sends a sign to the team that they have given up for the year, and I can't blame Kubiak for not wanting to send that message.

He said alot for me so

Originally Posted by cadams

Yeah, they started Dayne (who took out our Spencer), Greenwood (over adibi all year, and the only reason Adibi is starting now is because Greenwood got hurt, and it is clear the team is better with Adibi starting), Earl and Brown at safety until they got hurt (and the tandm we have now is clearly better). I could continue, but I will stop here.

And for the record, I am not a Kubiak hater, I think he is a hell of an offensive coach, I just think he falls in love with some players for certain reasons (faggins because he trys hard on every play and has a good attitude), and tends to keep giving them chances for too long. Reeves may end up being a decent cb for this team, but if he does, I think it will be at the nickle position.

And I would like to add to that Slaton didnt get to start until Green got hurt. Im just saying that im starting to question their judgement on how to handle young players playing time. It seems like times when they should be getting playing time they are just sitting on the bench. They should be getting in the games every opportunity they can when they arent detrimental the outcome. Its not like our D has been lights out and cant be improved.

[papabear]

Originally Posted by mussop

He said alot for me so



And I would like to add to that Slaton didnt get to start until Green got hurt.

...but he was getting carries. The running game has been most effective when Green's been able to contribute too.

[cadams]

Originally Posted by papabear

...but he was getting carries. The running game has been most effective when Green's been able to contribute too.

and the passing game has been more effective when the QBs haven't turned over the ball. Unfortunately, neither your point or my point are a consistent staple of the offense. (sorry, i am a smart*ss)


For the record, I agree with you on Green, which is why I didn't include Slayton. I thoguht about including him, but I agree that when Green is healthy the offense clicks better. They need a compliment back to go with Slayton to keep him from wearing down. You can argue that Green was a mistake, but that is a completely seperate discussion.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by cadams

and the passing game has been more effective when the QBs haven't turned over the ball. Unfortunately, neither your point or my point are a consistent staple of the offense. (sorry, i am a smart*ss)


For the record, I agree with you on Green, which is why I didn't include Slayton. I thoguht about including him, but I agree that when Green is healthy the offense clicks better. They need a compliment back to go with Slayton to keep him from wearing down. You can argue that Green was a mistake, but that is a completely seperate discussion.

I dissagree. IMO with an fresh Slayton this offense clicks better. We are definatly a more dangerous offense with Slaton.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by mussop

I dissagree. IMO with an fresh Slayton this offense clicks better. We are definatly a more dangerous offense with Slaton.

You bolded the wrong part of Cadams' post. Right after what you bolded to disagree with, he says that Green's value is as a compliment to slaton to keep slaton fresh. Read the whole post next time and you may realize you don't actually disagree.

I think you guys are all right. Slaton is the man. He is helped out and performs best when Green can take some of the carries off his shoulders to keep him fresh. This should be a priority next year in the draft (I know...one of about a hundred we have). I hope we spend a 3rd/4th on a back who can be our short yardage/big back complement to slaton.

[barrett]

And I seriously don't know what young guys you want playing. We already start a rookie at RB, LT, LB. All of whom started for us in their first healthy month in the NFL. We start a safety who was hurt for his 1st year and is in his rookie campaign in year two. Additionally, Dominique Barber got healthy and has immediately seen playing time. Doesn't look like a problem playing young guys to me. Looks like a problem with what they see from Molden in practice.

[cadams]

Originally Posted by barrett

You bolded the wrong part of Cadams' post. Right after what you bolded to disagree with, he says that Green's value is as a compliment to slaton to keep slaton fresh. Read the whole post next time and you may realize you don't actually disagree.

I think you guys are all right. Slaton is the man. He is helped out and performs best when Green can take some of the carries off his shoulders to keep him fresh. This should be a priority next year in the draft (I know...one of about a hundred we have). I hope we spend a 3rd/4th on a back who can be our short yardage/big back complement to slaton.

You are correct. The offense clicks better because green can take some of the load and adquately perform, which helps keep slayton fresh. I agree with your last sentence as well. If they can pick up a solid one cut and go rb in the 3rd or 4th round next year that weighs in somewhere in the 220-235 range that would be perfect.