QB Poll #1

[chuck]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Who have you heard whining that we wasted his career

Conveniently omitting

by not signing more retreads or not trading for more backups?

and therefore perverting the point entirely.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by chuck

Conveniently omitting



and therefore perverting the point entirely.

Yep. The idea that anyone will complain we didn't sign Kaep or Cutler is absurd. I have led the whining about QB, and all the whining has been entirely about us not drafting a guy.

Bob, you either have serious reading comprehension problems or you just unashamedly lie to make the facts fit the narrative you're most comfortable with.

[HPF Bob]

Would you be happier right now if we had taken Bridgewater or Bortles over Clowney? We took Kevin Johnson at #16 the following year and the next QB taken after him was Garrett Grayson at #76. Do you want him? Last year, they took Jacoby Jones 2.0 but they thought they already had their QB of the future so they loaded up on pass catchers. Should they have drafted Paxton Lynch or Christian Hackenberg?

[bikerack]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Would you be happier right now if we had taken Bridgewater or Bortles over Clowney? We took Kevin Johnson at #16 the following year and the next QB taken after him was Garrett Grayson at #76. Do you want him? Last year, they took Jacoby Jones 2.0 but they thought they already had their QB of the future so they loaded up on pass catchers. Should they have drafted Paxton Lynch or Christian Hackenberg?

I'd be happier if they took Jimmy G. over Su'a-Filo...<backing away from thread slowly>

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by bikerack

I'd be happier if they took Jimmy G. over Su'a-Filo...<backing away from thread slowly>

So would you trade for him now, knowing the Patriots want a #1 pick in return?

[bikerack]

If all they want is #25, then I lean heavily yes...I'd trade for him. I'd put him above any of the QB prospects.

If they want #25 plus another 1st next year I would need to really think about it (especially since we'd have no 2nd rounder next year either).

[barrett]

Originally Posted by bikerack

If all they want is #25, then I lean heavily yes...I'd trade for him. I'd put him above any of the QB prospects.

If they want #25 plus another 1st next year I would need to really think about it (especially since we'd have no 2nd rounder next year either).

No way do I give up a first for him. Any trade for him will include paying a giant contract extension for him. So you give up your first round pick for the right to pay $20 Million a year for a guy who has less history than Brock. The risk/reward tilts way too far in the wrong direction.

The main value of a rookie QB is they are cheap. Even a 1st round pick is about a quarter of a low end starter salary wise.

And yes Bob. I would have been happier if they tried to draft a QB and failed. Getting a great QB in this league is hard and usually involves a fair amount of luck. There is no shame in not having one. It is admirable to build a quality team without one. But it is beyond comprehension to let year after year pass without investing draft picks in the QB position.