Would You Do Cutler To Houston For Schaub and Our #1?

HPF Bob · #1 03-01-2009, 07:56 PM

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Hell no. Cutler was the #12 overall IIRC. I would not give up #15 and then our QB. That is crazy!

Cutler was #11, actually, but it doesn't matter where he was drafted. Would you turn down a trade for Tom Brady because he wasn't taken until the 5th round? THAT is crazy.

Look at it this way. Between Vince Young (taken third in '05), Matt Leinart (taken 10th in '05) and Cutler, who would you draft today?

dadmg · #2 03-01-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Between Vince Young (taken third in '05), Matt Leinart (taken 10th in '05) and Cutler, who would you draft today?

Is there a none of the above? I may be the only guy in the universe that's not sold on Cutler.

TheMatrix31 · #3 03-02-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Cutler was #11, actually, but it doesn't matter where he was drafted. Would you turn down a trade for Tom Brady because he wasn't taken until the 5th round? THAT is crazy.

Look at it this way. Between Vince Young (taken third in '05), Matt Leinart (taken 10th in '05) and Cutler, who would you draft today?

I would have taken Cutler then and I would take him now.

I'd kill to trade for him.

HPF Bob · #4 03-02-2009, 05:34 PM

Thanks, Matrix. I was beginning to wonder if anybody thought Cutler was a good QB. While Schaub plus the #1 pick for Cutler may seem expensive to some, I'd bet it is the minimum to get a trade done.

I did see a suggestion on another board that wouldn't involve draft choices: Schaub and DT Amobi Okoye to Denver for Cutler and RT Ryan Harris. That's an intriguing trade. Okoye is probably viewed as a better talent than Harris but the difference is roughly equivalent to the one between Schaub and Cutler.

NBT · #5 03-05-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

I would have taken Cutler then and I would take him now.

I'd kill to trade for him.

Then you would have died for nothing!

Mike · #6 03-02-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Cutler was #11, actually, but it doesn't matter where he was drafted. Would you turn down a trade for Tom Brady because he wasn't taken until the 5th round? THAT is crazy.

Look at it this way. Between Vince Young (taken third in '05), Matt Leinart (taken 10th in '05) and Cutler, who would you draft today?

Big difference between Cutler and Brady, but I see your point.

I would take Cutler over and over before those other two.

TheMatrix31 · #7 03-03-2009, 02:15 AM

I think Cutler would be an elite QB under Kubiak. I could just imagine him throwing bootleg bombs out to Andre.

barrett · #8 03-03-2009, 09:10 AM

I doubt it happens, but I'd do it in a heart beat. Cutler is a stud who was seemingly tailor made for our offense.

The Problem is the only reason he went on the market was for the chance to McDaniels to get Cassell who he knows and apparently loves. So he was willing to give up a superior talent for a guy he knows and who knows him and his offense inside and out. I don't see him giving up a superior talent for a guy he doesn't have any connection to in Schaub.

The only reason they move him now is if Cutler is absolutely dead set on not playing for McDaniels. It's possible after the trade rumors and the switch to an offense that will handcuff him a bit, but unlikely.

TexanJedi · #9 03-03-2009, 09:17 AM

For fun, but how about a package of Anderson (if possible since they signed an offer sheet), Matt Schaub, Travis Johnson (he does have experience in 3-4), and a pick (2 or 3) for Cutler and Dumervil? I know it's outlandish and I can't recall a trade in the NFL involving that many players (the NBA or MLB, yes), but that does not mean it's not possible. Of course there is the cap to consider too.

HPF Bob · #10 03-03-2009, 10:56 AM

That would be sweet for the Texans. As for Denver, I think they made a huge mistake hiring an offensive coach when their defense is what really needs fixing. McDiapers instead is trying to rework the offense and hasn't done much to upgrade the defense, maybe because he doesn't know how. So, at best, the Broncos will still score 30 pts a game and give up 40 pts a game.

barrett · #11 03-03-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

That would be sweet for the Texans. As for Denver, I think they made a huge mistake hiring an offensive coach when their defense is what really needs fixing. McDiapers instead is trying to rework the offense and hasn't done much to upgrade the defense, maybe because he doesn't know how. So, at best, the Broncos will still score 30 pts a game and give up 40 pts a game.

Seriously. How do you hire an offensive coach for that job? Does the Denver front office truly believe the problem was that Mike Shanahan was not putting enough points on the board?

The offense was in place and now they are just rebuilding it for the sake of rebuilding it. And wrecking their best player right out of the shoot is a great start.

HPF Bob · #12 03-03-2009, 11:08 PM

The feeding frenzy over Cutler is starting to get serious. A lot of the talk seems to be total bs but where there's smoke...

From one source, this was the original deal:
Tampa Bay gets Jay Cutler.
Denver gets Cassel plus Tampa's 1st and 3rd rounders.
New England gets Denver's second rounder.

Then the Lions got into the act and this was the supposed deal:
Detroit gets Jay Cutler and Denver's 3rd-rounder.
Denver gets Cassel and both of Detroit's first-rounders (including overall #1).
New England gets Denver's second rounder.

Allegedly, McDiapers was ready to do either deal but the new Broncos' GM, Xanders, vetoed the idea.

Since this surfaced, one report had Cutler going to Cleveland for Brady Quinn and Shaun Rogers. Another has Cutler going to the Vikings for unspecified player/picks, leading to jokes that Sage Rosenfels would be the new QB in Denver.

Mike Shanahan apparently had so much control of the organization that it has created a power vacuum where nobody knows for sure who is running the show up there.

HPF Bob · #13 03-15-2009, 04:41 PM

As things continue to deteriorate in Denver, I'd bet we could get Cutler now for Schaub and a second-rounder straight up. If Cutler doesn't show up for the next round of meetings, the Broncos would be smart to cut their losses and not go through a protracted holdout.

Hey, a Pro Bowl QB for what amounts to three second-round picks (remember, we gave up two #2s for Schaub) is quite a deal.

TexanJedi · #14 03-15-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

As things continue to deteriorate in Denver, I'd bet we could get Cutler now for Schaub and a second-rounder straight up. If Cutler doesn't show up for the next round of meetings, the Broncos would be smart to cut their losses and not go through a protracted holdout.

Hey, a Pro Bowl QB for what amounts to three second-round picks (remember, we gave up two #2s for Schaub) is quite a deal.

I have to admit I half way expect to check this site one afternoon and see the "Cutler to Houston" thread.