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Old 02-20-2009, 11:42 AM
painekiller painekiller is offline
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Wish I had desire to look it up again, but someone posted the % of players that are franchised that actually sign long term deals with the same team. The number of guys leaving the team is pretty high.

The players almost to a man get pi$$ed that they are franchised, and again it is not about today's money, but the risk is all on the player for tomorrow's money.

In Dunta's case the number appear to be pretty clear. $23M guarantee. Anything less then $20M and the team is bargain hunting.

Get a deal done.
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:19 PM
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If I had a dollar for every time a general manager lied, I'd have 20 million guaranteed!!!! What did he expect.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:01 PM
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It is really hard for me to have any sympathy for these ballplayers who make more in one year than many of us make in our lifetimes. To say nothing of the cost of the tickets.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:18 PM
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It is really hard for me to have any sympathy for these ballplayers who make more in one year than many of us make in our lifetimes. To say nothing of the cost of the tickets.
I don't think he was asking for anyone's sympathy. I was asked a question and answered it honestly. He said that he knows he's blessed to be making that kind of money but he's upset because he believes he was lied to by Rick Smith. What's wrong with that?
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:55 PM
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I don't think he was asking for anyone's sympathy. I was asked a question and answered it honestly. He said that he knows he's blessed to be making that kind of money but he's upset because he believes he was lied to by Rick Smith. What's wrong with that?
Uh, he's not 10? IMO, him getting pissy is absolutely ridiculous. "He lied to me" Get a freaking clue Dunta. This was the only move that the Texans could have made that was sensible. If he really thought they would let him walk with no compensation, then he is an idiot. I can understand him worried about not getting his golden parachute, especially with a rebuilt knee, but come on.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:01 PM
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I wonder if Dunta is lashing out becuase he did not get the extension done. I think we/he should let the dust settle and have his agent and Rick Smith get back to trying to get the long term deal done.

I am not going to get to excited about it right now.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:46 PM
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Uh, he's not 10? IMO, him getting pissy is absolutely ridiculous. "He lied to me" Get a freaking clue Dunta. This was the only move that the Texans could have made that was sensible. If he really thought they would let him walk with no compensation, then he is an idiot. I can understand him worried about not getting his golden parachute, especially with a rebuilt knee, but come on.
Please, nobody likes being lied to, even when we expect it(like from Lawyers or insurance companies ). In todays market Dunta knows that other CB's of his approximate skill level are getting 20+ million gauranteed. He said he's was blessed for 10 Mill this year, but if something happens to him then he's losing out that other potential 10+ MILL. Not to mention the fact. If he doesn't get F-Tagged then he knows he's getting that 23 mill this year from someone, if not the Texans. He might end up getting even more next year, but he knows first hand how quickly an NFL career could end. He felt like he was told that he was going to have the chance to collect now vs. later. There's no doubt in my mind that 99.9% of the people out there would be upset....especially since some freak injury could take away your chances of ever collecting the rest.

NFL players can get cut at any given time, but can't leave for greener pastures if they want to. The only thing they have is the guaranteed money in the contract. Now when a player signs a long term deal and then wants out of it a year later I think they should just shut up, but in this case I understand.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:48 PM
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Uh, he's not 10? IMO, him getting pissy is absolutely ridiculous. "He lied to me" Get a freaking clue Dunta. This was the only move that the Texans could have made that was sensible. If he really thought they would let him walk with no compensation, then he is an idiot. I can understand him worried about not getting his golden parachute, especially with a rebuilt knee, but come on.
Did I miss something? like a press conference and a crying fit... Some reporters contacted him about the deal and he answered in honestly. I'm not sure what the big deal is.

I'm sure he understands why the Texans did it. He's just disappointed with it, especially since he was told (Rick Smith confirmed he told him) they wouldn't do it.

I don't get what you're reacting to.
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Old 02-20-2009, 03:16 PM
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I don't get what you're reacting to.
I am OVERREACTING to quotes that I read about someone being pissed about about getting $10MM for one year's worth of work.
This is why I could never be a GM.
I would tell him to kick rocks after making comments like that to the press.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:07 PM
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Maybe if Dunta would've lowered his asking price a little the deal gets done? And then maybe Rick Smith isn't a liar? Hard to know what exactly went down behind the scenes.... just sayin'...
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:40 PM
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None of my business really; however, if someone lied to me in a business deal, I would be through with them.
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