THR Computer Mock

[Roy P]

Thehuddlereport.com is a pay site that is fun to surf. Besides funny profiles, they do mock drafts including a Computer generated 7 round one. Based upon all of the flack I've been seeing about Jeremy Maclin as a player who doesn't make the team better because he doesn't address a "need" I have subsequently placed Peria Jerry ahead of him on my draft board. That's important because in this draft I had my choice between the two.

Anyway, THR had us selecting the following:
15 RB Chris Wells
46 CB Darius Butler
77 TE Jared Cook
108 S Rashad Johnson
144 DT Corvey Irvin
175 DE Tim Jamison
206 K Graham Gano

Using my board, I selected:
15 DT Peria Jerry
46 DE Robert Ayers
77 CB Dominique Johnson
108 S Rashad Johnson (that was funny that he was my top guy too).
144 WR Mike Thomas (well I suppose we could use a KR/PR guy).
175 LB Lee Robinson
206 OL Robert Brewster

My biggest quandry was at #144. While Thomas was my top guy, I also had sights on Corvery Irvin (already had Jerry), JP Wilson, and the LB Jason Williams. I was not happy that I was not able to select a RB in this draft. Taking a look at UDFAs Kory Sheets, Javarris Williams, and Marlon Lucky would be the RBs I'd pursue. I would also take a look at DTs Ra'Shon Harris and Myron Pryor as run stuffers. Lastly, LB Kaluka Maiava would be targeted as a possible SAM and Special Teams guy.

[painekiller]

I saw that draft yesterday and thought it was just about the worst mock I have seen yet. (Talking about thehuddlereports mock).

[nero THE zero]

I wouldn't mind selecting a RB in the first, but I wouldn't want it to be Wells.

I like your results a lot better.

[jppaul]

I like 4 of the original picks:

Wells
Butler
Johnson
Cano

Not so sure that this is the route I would go, but if we lost Dunta in free agency then I might go Butler in the second. I would certainly go Johnson in the 4th and Cano in the 7th.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Using my board, I selected:
15 DT Peria Jerry
46 DE Robert Ayers
77 CB Dominique Johnson
108 S Rashad Johnson (that was funny that he was my top guy too).
144 WR Mike Thomas (well I suppose we could use a KR/PR guy).
175 LB Lee Robinson
206 OL Robert Brewster

Taking a look at UDFAs Kory Sheets, Javarris Williams, and Marlon Lucky would be the RBs I'd pursue. I would also take a look at DTs Ra'Shon Harris and Myron Pryor as run stuffers.

If I were to try to change things up a bit and stick to my guns about Maclin I could have done this cherry picking:

15 WR/KR Jeremy Maclin
46 DE Robert Ayers
77 SAM LB Cody Brown
108 S Rashad Johnson
144 WILL LB Jason Williams
175 RB P.J. Hill
206 DT Darryl Richard


Then I could have looked to sign Robert Brewster and Lee Robinson as UDFAs.

[idymoe]

Even though a few sites say otherwise, I think Kory Sheets gets drafted. He showed enough speed to get outside a couple of times in the Senior Bowl, even though one was called back for holding. He had 7 carries for 32 yds and a 61 yd kickoff return. He caught several checkdowns, but they were well-covered, so no yardage. I liked how he read his blocks and showed some acceleration off his cuts.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by idymoe

Even though a few sites say otherwise, I think Kory Sheets gets drafted.

Charles Davis was doing his best job to help his agent all week. It's funny how everyone has their little "pet" players that they love, but everyone else is like, "huh?" when somebody talks about how good they will be as a Pro.

Shawn Nelson was also sold pretty well by Mayock and Davis during Senior Bowl week.

I'm just as guilty as anyone. Just to name a few.

LB Scott McKillop
QB John Parker Wilson
LB Jason Williams
LB Lee Robinson
FS CJ Spillman
LB Victor Butler
OG Andy Kemp
SS Keith Fitzhugh
DT Darryl Richard
OG Greg Isdaner
OG Robert Brewster
DT Myron Pryor
Herb Donaldson

[idymoe]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Charles Davis was doing his best job to help his agent all week.

You'll have to 'splain this to me, because I'm not familiar with your reference.

I sometimes like talking about guys besides the "usual suspects". It might be interesting for everyone to list their sleepers. It probably should be done in its own thread. Texan fans from different parts of the country should have a better familiarity with players in their region. The question is, can you be objective.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by idymoe

You'll have to 'splain this to me, because I'm not familiar with your reference.

Charles Davis and Mike Mayock are analysts for the NFL Network. The network covered Senior Bowl practices. Every time Shawn Nelson caught a pass or blocked a LB, Davis and Mayock were just oohing and aahing about how this kid "flashed" all week. While Nelson reminds me of Marcedes Lewis, I thought that they were a little over the top in spotlighting him. My point was, every time that mentioned his name they stir up some buzz. Therefore, if he "climbs" up the draft board, he'll make more money and his agent will get paid more.

[idymoe]

I figured it was something like that. I meant to watch those shows throughout the week. Every afternoon when I got home from work, I would forget it. Getting old ain't for sissies, boys.

Mayock may be a good analyst and evaluator, but he was annoying to me doing the game. While he was right dogging Harrell's arm, there were 3 times when he was so wrong it was agitating. I would have to go back to the game to get all the names correct, but here is were the crappy commentary came from.

First, there was a run to the outside where Cushing was pursuing. He engaged the pulling OL and knocked him backwards. The rb cut to the inside and Mayock criticized Cushing for overrunning the play. I guess he expected Cushing to somehow overcome a lineman who probably had 40 to 50 pounds on him (and a good blocking angle) and make the tackle on a running back in space. Most good running backs can make a move to get around a linebacker one on one. Davis tried to diffuse the comment by saying something like " well, the good thing is, he spilled the play back inside". I thought it was a great play by Cushing, but I guess he could have grabbed the lineman and thrown him over his head and made the tackle himself.

On a kickoff return, the returner worked himself towards the far sideline, and when a crease developed, Mayock shouts, "Explode! Right now!" The guy was already going pretty full out at that point, and was able to accelerate slightly through the crease and got the most out of the opportunity. The only way that a guy could have "exploded" at that point was if he had a jet pack on his back.

On another play where the running back got stuffed by the interior dl, Mayock said the center (I think it was Unger, but not sure) and right guard ( Levitre) got blown up. They showed a replay and clearly, Levitre took his man completely out of the play to the right. Mayock should have corrected himself at that point, but didn't.

[painekiller]

The huddlereport has a new 7 round computer mock.

15 RB Chris Wells Ohio St
46 CB Darius Butler Connecticut
77 TE *Jared Cook South Carolina
108 S Rashad Johnson Alabama
144 DT Corey Irvin Georgia
175 DE Tim Jamison Michigan
206 K *Graham Gano Florida St

My cherry pick is
15 LB Aaron Maybin Penn State
46 DE Robert Ayers Tennessee
77 OC Eric Wood Louisville
108 S Rashad Johnson Alabama
144 DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond
175 RB *PJ Hill Wisconsin
206 QB *Stephen McGee Texas A&M

[Nconroe]

McGee is looking like most athletic QB at combine. Too bad he got injured early in 2008. Think he'll last to 7th round.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

McGee is looking like most athletic QB at combine. Too bad he got injured early in 2008. Think he'll last to 7th round.

I agree. Not only does he look athletic, but he looked good throwing the ball. I would love for us to steal him in the 6th round, or so... and, I guess it's a real possibility.


I also thought that Brian Robiskie clearly looks like the best WR in the draft after Crabtree. He posted a 4.50 fourt yard dash which I think solidifies him as an near elite WR prospect. If he slides into the second round, someone is getting a major steal!

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

McGee is looking like most athletic QB at combine. Too bad he got injured early in 2008. Think he'll last to 7th round.

That is where the mocks have him currently, I can see him anywhere from the 5th to 7th.

My question is if I took him in the 5th, where I also see John Parker Wilson going, do I go with Wilson based on the bigger game experience.

McGee looked really good at the Shrine game. Wilson looked good at the senior bowl.

I see McGee with more upside than Brink.

[NBT]

Question: (1) DE Aaron Maybin seems kinda light in the butt for a 4-3 DE in the NFL? No question about his first step though. (2) CB/S Dominique (another one) Johnson is very intriguing, but he is supposedly a hothead and likes to talk back to his coaches?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by NBT

Question: (1) DE Aaron Maybin seems kinda light in the butt for a 4-3 DE in the NFL? No question about his first step though.

I believe I have him listed as a OLB, not a DE. As Roy said, he maybe a guy you play at SAM on 1st and 2nd down, then allow him to move DE for nickle packages.

[jppaul]

I think he would be fine at DE, run stopping is not his forte but I think he is quick enough to disrupt. Its just a tradeoff, would you prefer Tyson Jackson, an absolute brick wall in the running game or Maybin whose quickness can get pressure and disrupt run plays?

I like Maybin, personally.

[edo783]

Originally Posted by jppaul

I like Maybin, personally.

Kind of where I'm leaning also. I want the DE with the quickest first step and the speed to get into the backfield we can get. Bonus time would be if he can stuff the run, but as long as he isn't a total liability with the run, I can live with him as long as he can get to the QB quickly. Put him at RDE and Mario at LDE where, IMO he does his best anyway, and tell them "Go fetch".

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by edo783

I want the DE with the quickest first step and the speed to get into the backfield we can get. Bonus time would be if he can stuff the run, but as long as he isn't a total liability with the run, I can live with him as long as he can get to the QB quickly.

The quickest "we can get" is where the rub is. Ideally, Everette Brown is on the board, if not, there is a bit of a step down. Also, "as long as he isn't a total liability with the run" is a pretty big phrase when discussing potential DEs.

There are some trade offs that are going to be considered. We aren't going to be able to have our cake and eat it too. If Brown is gone, as I suspect, I feel our next best combination of pass rush/run stuffing is Orakpo. He's not great at either, but sufficient at both. Maybin gives you a lot more pass rush, but you really pay for it against the run. Of course, he wouldn't be that big of a liability against the run as an OLB. However, as a DE, he would be. Lastly, Ayers may not be the pass rusher that Orakpo is, but he's better vs. the run.

[edo783]

Originally Posted by Roy P

The quickest "we can get" is where the rub is. Ideally, Everette Brown is on the board, if not, there is a bit of a step down. Also, "as long as he isn't a total liability with the run" is a pretty big phrase when discussing potential DEs.

There are some trade offs that are going to be considered. We aren't going to be able to have our cake and eat it too. If Brown is gone, as I suspect, I feel our next best combination of pass rush/run stuffing is Orakpo. He's not great at either, but sufficient at both. Maybin gives you a lot more pass rush, but you really pay for it against the run. Of course, he wouldn't be that big of a liability against the run as an OLB. However, as a DE, he would be. Lastly, Ayers may not be the pass rusher that Orakpo is, but he's better vs. the run.

All true Roy and that is why it lean towards Maybin as he is supposed to be the best PURE pass rusher. I could see him as an OLB on downs 1&2 and then a DE on 3. I don't think he has played OLB, so that may be a real barrier to that plan. If he is a total liability in run and isn't suitable as a OLB, then we can't draft him because then he would be just a 1 down specialist and you don't take that type at 15. Orakpo is fairly likely to be there at 15 and would probably be the safest pick for us and with the added benefit of perhaps stopping the horns fans from sniveling that we never pick their guys.