One of Each

[painekiller]

After the disappointing game yesterday and the red zone trouble this team has had I am looking at supersizing my OL. My biggest problem with a Gibbs OL is the smaller sized OL and the trouble that brings in short yardage and pass protection. So I am playing a what if game, will do this a a few different ways before I am done but Supersize the OL and Improve the redzone scoring threat.

Assuming the 11th pick in each round currently no trade down.

1 Jason Smith, OT Baylor 6-5 315
2 Max Unger OC Oregon 6-4 313
3 Donald Brown RB Connecticut 5-10 210
4 Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty 6-1 232
5 Gartrell Johnson FB Colorado St 6-0 225

Smith would be a my LT, Pitts, Unger, Winston, Brown would round out the OL. Big quick group, they could be maulers or finesse types.

I would have 3 young RBs Slaton and Brown being the main guys and Jennings being no slouch.

This would change the team overnight, it would give us an OL that could win the line of scrimmage.

[painekiller]

What about a defensive draft?

1 Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida 6-3 245
or
1 Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest 6-2 249
2 Matt Shaughnessy, DE, Wisconsin 6-5 250
3 Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut 5-10 185 4.37
4 Ron Brace, NT, Boston College 6-3 333
5 Otis Wiley S Michigan State 6-209

Pick your poison, Mr. Inside or Mr. Outside. Spikes allows us to move Ryans around, Curry has the size to upgrade the SAM with Adibi playing the WILL.

Butler can return kicks and has the speed to be a solid cover guy. Brace is the NT for Boston College that has been overshadowed by his teammate Raji.

[NBT]

Right now, according to keith, we are hanging with the 12 th pick in the Draft. There is a chance, based upon what happens when all the juniors jump in, that MLB James Laurinitis will be available. Would you take him over Spikes?

I'm agin taking an Olineman before the 4th round in this upcoming draft, we need defense so bad.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by NBT

Right now, according to keith, we are hanging with the 12 th pick in the Draft. There is a chance, based upon what happens when all the juniors jump in, that MLB James Laurinitis will be available. Would you take him over Spikes?

I'm agin taking an Olineman before the 4th round in this upcoming draft, we need defense so bad.

Before the combine which is when I cement my list I would rather have Spikes or Curry over Laurinitis.

BTW neither draft is how I want or think the final draft will look. But if this team wanted to make a quick change in one area of the team they could use a draft similar to one of my exaggerated drafts. So this is for entertainment only.

[kRocket]

Curry will be a top-ten IMO. I think Spikes might make a fine ILB, but will D. Ryans translate well to the outside. I know he was drafted as an OLB, but that was a while ago, has anything changed.

I would like to spend whatever it takes to get Haynesworth in FA, now that his Pro-Bowl selection has freed him for next year. Then we are free to draft whoever we want #1. That frees up our draft chioces and TJ to back-up or fight Okoye for a starting job. That translates to an immediate upgrade for our run defense and less double and triple teaming on Mario. Win-win scenario.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by painekiller

After the disappointing game yesterday and the red zone trouble this team has had I am looking at supersizing my OL. My biggest problem with a Gibbs OL is the smaller sized OL and the trouble that brings in short yardage and pass protection. So I am playing a what if game, will do this a a few different ways before I am done but Supersize the OL and Improve the redzone scoring threat.

Assuming the 11th pick in each round currently no trade down.

1 Jason Smith, OT Baylor 6-5 315
2 Max Unger OC Oregon 6-4 313
3 Donald Brown RB Connecticut 5-10 210
4 Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty 6-1 232
5 Gartrell Johnson FB Colorado St 6-0 225

Smith would be a my LT, Pitts, Unger, Winston, Brown would round out the OL. Big quick group, they could be maulers or finesse types.

I would have 3 young RBs Slaton and Brown being the main guys and Jennings being no slouch.

This would change the team overnight, it would give us an OL that could win the line of scrimmage.

3 Donald Brown RB Connecticut 5-10 210 Has decided to stay in school.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by mussop

3 Donald Brown RB Connecticut 5-10 210 Has decided to stay in school.

Dang I missed that, thanks.

Crossing fingers that he changes his mind....

[gunn]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Before the combine which is when I cement my list I would rather have Spikes or Curry over Laurinitis.

BTW neither draft is how I want or think the final draft will look. But if this team wanted to make a quick change in one area of the team they could use a draft similar to one of my exaggerated drafts. So this is for entertainment only.

I think Spikes ends up being the first linebacker taken in the draft.

[NBT]

PK, Would you take a LB over FS Mays or Moore? I'm beginning to really think this is the year we SHOULD get that impact safety.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by NBT

PK, Would you take a LB over FS Mays or Moore? I'm beginning to really think this is the year we SHOULD get that impact safety.

If we can get Moore, that would be optimal in my opinion. Mays could also make an impact, but is a more true SS and could be a liability in pass coverage. It would also depend upon who is available at the LB position when we pick in the 1st round. Do we give up on Adibi and select Aaron Curry in the 1st round to play the WILL LB slot? There is the possibility of getting a LB like Cody Brown from UConn in the 2nd round or Zach Follett at Cal in the 3rd round. We should keep in mind that the 2nd tier S prospects could also make an impact on our defense if we aren't able to acquire Moore or Mays. I'm talking about Derek Pegues, Rashad Johnson, Patrick Chung, Michael Hamlin, Myron Rolle, Courtney Greene, or even Nic Harris.

My presumption is that we are talking about upgrading the WILL and not DeMeco's position in the middle. If you are of the belief that getting a player like James Laurinaitis or ReyMaualuga to play the MIKE would allow DeMeco to play the WILL, then that might be a different matter altogether.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

My presumption is that we are talking about upgrading the WILL and not DeMeco's position in the middle. If you are of the belief that getting a player like James Laurinaitis or ReyMaualuga to play the MIKE would allow DeMeco to play the WILL, then that might be a different matter altogether.

I am thinking of Brandon Spikes in the middle and moving Ryans. I think think the early injuries he had this season is just a precursor of his playing the middle. I would rather have 3 studs on the field together than a sacred cow in the middle.

NBT yes I take the LBs before the FS.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Mays could also make an impact, but is a more true SS and could be a liability in pass coverage.

If you are of the belief that getting a player like James Laurinaitis or ReyMaualuga to play the MIKE would allow DeMeco to play the WILL, then that might be a different matter altogether.

Ok, first let me back track about Mays. Perhaps I don't give him enough credit in stopping the deep pass. Pete Carroll giving an interview to the Daily Breeze on 12 Dec. made a point about there not being many plays made deep while Mays has been patrolling the center field. Maybe, Mays could be as good as LaRon Landry, I just haven't seen him play enough to make that determination.

Secondly, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to moving DeMeco to the WLB. I just don't see that as being a move that would be made by this coaching staff. Remember when Diles was the backup MLB? I would like to see the Pitt MLB Scott McKillop drafted in the 4th or 5th round to add to the LB mix. He could allow Ryans to play WLB, if the coaches were wanting to go that route.

Currently, I have not made up my mind one way or the other as to which position needs to be addressed in the 1st round.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

1 Jason Smith, OT Baylor 6-5 315
2 Max Unger OC Oregon 6-4 313
3 Donald Brown RB Connecticut 5-10 210
4 Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty 6-1 232
5 Gartrell Johnson FB Colorado St 6-0 225

First 5 picks for the offensive side of the ball ? I dunno PK, but you must have missed the memo theTexans' were circulating which said defense is the top priority in the '09 Draft ?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Currently, I have not made up my mind one way or the other as to which position needs to be addressed in the 1st round.

Currently, I am pushing the best player available, period. I do not care which side of the ball.


Of course the trade down get more picks is always in play.

[NBT]

Rashad Jennings of Liberty would be a big bruiser of a pickup if he can get that 4.64/40 down to about 4.55, or so at the combine.

[NBT]

Yes, I was definitely thinking DeMeco to the Will IF we took Laurainitis or Spikes. DeMeco is a great MLB, but he tends to wear down due to light in the butt for the posiotion. He could still backup the Mike, IMO.

In the Mocks it seems like it would be easier to find the LB in the second round than it would be the FS, so that is why I would like to see Moore as our first round pick, assuming he is there for the plucking when we draft.

[NBT]

PK, it is a given with us old time HPF'ers that everything is contingent on the Combine. the Mocks will change after the Combine, as will mine and yours, and most peoples.

[gunn]

I threw this together based on the current records and I guess this is as good a place as any to put this...

1 Detroit 0-15 .558 - Matt Stafford QB Georgia
2F St. Louis 2-13 .535 - Andre Smith OT Alabama
3F Kansas City 2-13 .535 - Brian Orakpo DE Texas
4 Cincinnati 3-11-1 .560 - Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
5 Seattle 4-11 .498 - Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
6 Oakland 4-11 .521 - Michael Oher OT Ole Miss
7 Cleveland 4-11 .573 - Malcom Jenkins DB Ohio State
8 Green Bay 5-10 .519 - Tyson Jackson DT LSU
9 Jacksonville 5-10 .535 - Brandon Spikes LB Florida
10 San Francisco 6-9 .456 - Taylor Mays S USC
11 Buffalo 7-8 .450 - Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
12 Houston 7-8 .515 - Everett Brown DE Florida State
13 San Diego 7-8 .517 - Rey Maualuga LB USC
14 Washington 8-7 .481 - Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
15 New Orleans 8-7 .492 – Vontae Davis DB Illinois
16 Denver 8-7 .454 - Chris Wells RB Ohio State
17 Arizona 8-7 .490 - Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
18 Philadelphia 8-6-1 .523 - Greg Hardy DE Ole Miss
19 New York Jets 9-6 .465 - George Selvie DE South
20 Chicago 9-6 .469 – Jason Smith OT Baylor
21 Tampa Bay 9-6 .479 - Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
22 Detroit (from Dallas) 9-6 .498 - Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma
23 Minnesota 9-6 .508 - Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma
24 New England 10-5 .479 - William Moore S Missouri
25 Miami 10-5 .458 - BJ Raji DT Boston College
26 Atlanta 10-5 .460 - Terrance Cody DT Alabama
27 Baltimore 10-5 .519 - Darrius Heyward Bey WR Maryland
28 Philadelphia (from Carolina) 11-4 .492 - Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma
29 Indianapolis 11-4 .494 - Alex Mack C California
30 Pittsburgh 11-4 .523 - Ebon Britton OT Arizona
31 New York Giants 12-3 .498 - James Laurinitis LB Ohio State
32 Tennessee 13-2.452 - Percy Harvin WR Florida

[NBT]

Creabtree they say, is going back to school.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by mussop

3 Donald Brown RB Connecticut 5-10 210 Has decided to stay in school.

He lied

Hope he falls to the 2nd round.