One of Each

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by NBT

PK, Would you take a LB over FS Mays or Moore? I'm beginning to really think this is the year we SHOULD get that impact safety.

If we can get Moore, that would be optimal in my opinion. Mays could also make an impact, but is a more true SS and could be a liability in pass coverage. It would also depend upon who is available at the LB position when we pick in the 1st round. Do we give up on Adibi and select Aaron Curry in the 1st round to play the WILL LB slot? There is the possibility of getting a LB like Cody Brown from UConn in the 2nd round or Zach Follett at Cal in the 3rd round. We should keep in mind that the 2nd tier S prospects could also make an impact on our defense if we aren't able to acquire Moore or Mays. I'm talking about Derek Pegues, Rashad Johnson, Patrick Chung, Michael Hamlin, Myron Rolle, Courtney Greene, or even Nic Harris.

My presumption is that we are talking about upgrading the WILL and not DeMeco's position in the middle. If you are of the belief that getting a player like James Laurinaitis or ReyMaualuga to play the MIKE would allow DeMeco to play the WILL, then that might be a different matter altogether.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

My presumption is that we are talking about upgrading the WILL and not DeMeco's position in the middle. If you are of the belief that getting a player like James Laurinaitis or ReyMaualuga to play the MIKE would allow DeMeco to play the WILL, then that might be a different matter altogether.

I am thinking of Brandon Spikes in the middle and moving Ryans. I think think the early injuries he had this season is just a precursor of his playing the middle. I would rather have 3 studs on the field together than a sacred cow in the middle.

NBT yes I take the LBs before the FS.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Mays could also make an impact, but is a more true SS and could be a liability in pass coverage.

If you are of the belief that getting a player like James Laurinaitis or ReyMaualuga to play the MIKE would allow DeMeco to play the WILL, then that might be a different matter altogether.

Ok, first let me back track about Mays. Perhaps I don't give him enough credit in stopping the deep pass. Pete Carroll giving an interview to the Daily Breeze on 12 Dec. made a point about there not being many plays made deep while Mays has been patrolling the center field. Maybe, Mays could be as good as LaRon Landry, I just haven't seen him play enough to make that determination.

Secondly, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to moving DeMeco to the WLB. I just don't see that as being a move that would be made by this coaching staff. Remember when Diles was the backup MLB? I would like to see the Pitt MLB Scott McKillop drafted in the 4th or 5th round to add to the LB mix. He could allow Ryans to play WLB, if the coaches were wanting to go that route.

Currently, I have not made up my mind one way or the other as to which position needs to be addressed in the 1st round.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Currently, I have not made up my mind one way or the other as to which position needs to be addressed in the 1st round.

Currently, I am pushing the best player available, period. I do not care which side of the ball.


Of course the trade down get more picks is always in play.

[NBT]

Rashad Jennings of Liberty would be a big bruiser of a pickup if he can get that 4.64/40 down to about 4.55, or so at the combine.

[NBT]

Yes, I was definitely thinking DeMeco to the Will IF we took Laurainitis or Spikes. DeMeco is a great MLB, but he tends to wear down due to light in the butt for the posiotion. He could still backup the Mike, IMO.

In the Mocks it seems like it would be easier to find the LB in the second round than it would be the FS, so that is why I would like to see Moore as our first round pick, assuming he is there for the plucking when we draft.

[NBT]

PK, it is a given with us old time HPF'ers that everything is contingent on the Combine. the Mocks will change after the Combine, as will mine and yours, and most peoples.

[gunn]

I threw this together based on the current records and I guess this is as good a place as any to put this...

1 Detroit 0-15 .558 - Matt Stafford QB Georgia
2F St. Louis 2-13 .535 - Andre Smith OT Alabama
3F Kansas City 2-13 .535 - Brian Orakpo DE Texas
4 Cincinnati 3-11-1 .560 - Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
5 Seattle 4-11 .498 - Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
6 Oakland 4-11 .521 - Michael Oher OT Ole Miss
7 Cleveland 4-11 .573 - Malcom Jenkins DB Ohio State
8 Green Bay 5-10 .519 - Tyson Jackson DT LSU
9 Jacksonville 5-10 .535 - Brandon Spikes LB Florida
10 San Francisco 6-9 .456 - Taylor Mays S USC
11 Buffalo 7-8 .450 - Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
12 Houston 7-8 .515 - Everett Brown DE Florida State
13 San Diego 7-8 .517 - Rey Maualuga LB USC
14 Washington 8-7 .481 - Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
15 New Orleans 8-7 .492 – Vontae Davis DB Illinois
16 Denver 8-7 .454 - Chris Wells RB Ohio State
17 Arizona 8-7 .490 - Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
18 Philadelphia 8-6-1 .523 - Greg Hardy DE Ole Miss
19 New York Jets 9-6 .465 - George Selvie DE South
20 Chicago 9-6 .469 – Jason Smith OT Baylor
21 Tampa Bay 9-6 .479 - Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
22 Detroit (from Dallas) 9-6 .498 - Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma
23 Minnesota 9-6 .508 - Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma
24 New England 10-5 .479 - William Moore S Missouri
25 Miami 10-5 .458 - BJ Raji DT Boston College
26 Atlanta 10-5 .460 - Terrance Cody DT Alabama
27 Baltimore 10-5 .519 - Darrius Heyward Bey WR Maryland
28 Philadelphia (from Carolina) 11-4 .492 - Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma
29 Indianapolis 11-4 .494 - Alex Mack C California
30 Pittsburgh 11-4 .523 - Ebon Britton OT Arizona
31 New York Giants 12-3 .498 - James Laurinitis LB Ohio State
32 Tennessee 13-2.452 - Percy Harvin WR Florida