Harrison and Barber

Bigtinylittle · #1 12-24-2008, 12:47 PM

I can't help but wonder whether Harrison pulled a fast one on the Texans with that graduation thing. It essentially set him back a whole year. I have to wonder whether the Texans would have drafted him if they had known about it.

Most low round draft picks don't stick in the league, so it's not like it is a big loss if we cut him next year. In most cases, I think there are cheap free agents who can play as well or better than most low rounders. Look around the Texan's roster and you will find several free agents who are helping us more than Harrison. That's one reason why I'm glad the Texans have a lot of cap space now. It should let us take lots of chances to bring in guys like Colvin, Chris Brown, etc and just cut them with minimal loss if they don't work out. Sifting through the rejects until you find a Briesel or a Deljuan Robinson.

painekiller · #2 12-24-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigtinylittle

I can't help but wonder whether Harrison pulled a fast one on the Texans with that graduation thing. It essentially set him back a whole year. I have to wonder whether the Texans would have drafted him if they had known about it.

Most low round draft picks don't stick in the league, so it's not like it is a big loss if we cut him next year. In most cases, I think there are cheap free agents who can play as well or better than most low rounders. Look around the Texan's roster and you will find several free agents who are helping us more than Harrison. That's one reason why I'm glad the Texans have a lot of cap space now. It should let us take lots of chances to bring in guys like Colvin, Chris Brown, etc and just cut them with minimal loss if they don't work out. Sifting through the rejects until you find a Briesel or a Deljuan Robinson.

Harrison had no choice but to miss that camp time, it is a league rule. Stanford is one of the few school that ends it regular spring term so late, and yes every team in the league knows that the player taken from that school will not be available until the college term is over.

Bigtinylittle · #3 12-24-2008, 02:23 PM

Well, that makes it even a more curious pick, to me anyway. And at this point, it is looking like one of their weakest picks.

Keith · #4 12-24-2008, 06:08 PM

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And at this point, it is looking like one of their weakest picks.

For whatever the reason, safety seems to be the one position that this team's scouts - college and pro - have the hardest time evaluating. I can only figure they lucked into whatever they're getting out of Eugene Wilson this year.

I think to all of us here it seems pretty obvious that a centerfielder-type free safety is desperately needed long-term, yet they keep trying to field two guys at a time who look like mediocre strong safeties instead.

The good news is that the Texans could trade down in the first round from where they're at and still draft one of the highest regarded safeties available next April. If they went LB instead and took a FS in round two, then I'd be satisfied with that, too.

painekiller · #5 12-24-2008, 06:26 PM

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If they went LB instead and took a FS in round two, then I'd be satisfied with that, too.

Everytime I try that in a mock I come up empty in round two. I only see two guys that should be instant starters, they are Taylor Mays and William Moore, after that it's a dice role IMO.

Hey there is a sleeper FS, a junior that might consider coming out Klint Kubiak, Colorado St. what do you guys think?

NBT · #6 12-25-2008, 06:52 PM

Of course we don't yet know who the junior eligibles, and 3rd year red shirt sophomores are, that are going to declare, but Mays or Moore would suit me fine in the first round. I would love to see us pull another trade down for extra picks trick, but that doesn't come along every year.

Harrison hasn't excited me either, but C.C. Brown didn't do much until his third year, so........ The Barber kid just hasn't had enough reps to register one way or another. I agree that Wilson has looked the best at FS. We've had some injuries in the safeties this year, so this has to be an area we have to strengthen for next year.

NBT · #7 12-29-2008, 01:29 PM

Happy to say, Barber had a good game yesterday against Chicago.

cadams · #8 12-31-2008, 02:48 PM

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I would love to see us pull another trade down for extra picks trick, but that doesn't come along every year.

I agree with this. Fortunately, I think sitting at the 15 pick could be a great spot for trading down. That is right in that area where a top 10 type guy could slip to due to a run on a certain position which could cause a team in the 20-25 range to be willing to part with their #1 and a 3rd rounder to get someone like that. Pretty much the situation the Texans fell into at #17 last year.