2009 needs - Page 4

painekiller · #61 11-20-2008, 01:27 AM

Sunday made me think that CB might be the #1 need on this team, we need to have 3 top cover guys with Indy in the division, plus someone to cover the TE, Adibi did look solid at that in his first start, but he is way undersized to play OLB in the NFL, he was projected by many to be a SS in the NFL.

The kid from Ohio St Malcolm Jenkins might be moving to the top of my board right now. Molden can change this pick.

In the 2nd I am looking at Shonn Greene RB from Iowa.

I think Slaton and Green would make a wonderful 1 2 punch.

gunn · #62 11-20-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

Sunday made me think that CB might be the #1 need on this team, we need to have 3 top cover guys with Indy in the division, plus someone to cover the TE, Adibi did look solid at that in his first start, but he is way undersized to play OLB in the NFL, he was projected by many to be a SS in the NFL.

The kid from Ohio St Malcolm Jenkins might be moving to the top of my board right now. Molden can change this pick.

In the 2nd I am looking at Shonn Greene RB from Iowa.

I think Slaton and Green would make a wonderful 1 2 punch.

I don't like that approach... It's soft and reactive. Build from the trenches, get physical and aggressive and start controlling some damn games!

I like the kid from Iowa though. He's a little older but he reminds me of Michael Turner.

NBT · #63 11-23-2008, 03:10 PM

Malcolm Jenkins didn't do much for Ohio State's cause this past weekend, although they did bury Michigan.

NBT · #64 11-23-2008, 03:12 PM

Although it pains me to say this, we still need help on the offensive and defensive line. A bigger center, and a mammoth NT would do it for me.

painekiller · #65 12-01-2008, 11:12 PM

A stout high motor run stopping DT, a stud RB to share carries, A QB for the future, and a pass rushing sack machine. Plus a HC that liked the aggressive defense we have played the last few weeks, and a DC that can draw up a game plan that can be aggressive.

kRocket · #66 12-02-2008, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

A stout high motor run stopping DT, a stud RB to share carries, A QB for the future, and a pass rushing sack machine. Plus a HC that liked the aggressive defense we have played the last few weeks, and a DC that can draw up a game plan that can be aggressive.

I would love for us to look hard at Mount Cody from the Tide. I hope he has a rather wide mean streak to go with his size and athleticism. This guy will be our Haynesworth.

As far as QB goes the future is NOW !

painekiller · #67 12-02-2008, 12:11 PM

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I would love for us to look hard at Mount Cody from the Tide. I hope he has a rather wide mean streak to go with his size and athleticism. This guy will be our Haynesworth.

As far as QB goes the future is NOW !

I am not feeling the love for Mount Cody, IMO, he is a huge guy that is out of shape and not on the field enough. The way Franklin plays them I do not see Cody making it out of training camp.

With that said, I see Raji and his teammate Ron Brace as two high motor guys that bring it on every play they are on the field. Brace is currently a 3rd-5th rounder, and I do not see much of a difference between him and Raji.

Watch them this Saturday against V-Tech. BTW, I would like to take both of them and let them push each other.

painekiller · #68 12-02-2008, 12:42 PM

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BTW, I would like to take both of them and let them push each other.

A draft of

1 B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
2 Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa
3 Max Unger, C, Oregon
4 Clay Matthews, DE/OLB Southern California
5 Ron Brace, DT, Boston College
6 Ryan Purvis, TE, Boston College
7 John Wilson Parker, QB, Alabama

DL would be Mario, Raji, Okoye, Cochrin, backed up by Bulman, Nading, Okam, DelJuan Robinson and Brace. Matthews plays OLB and DE pass rusher.

Unger can play OC, OG and some OT. Greene is a stud who can take half the carries from Slaton. Last two picks are why not's, PS type picks, would be happy if they took another RB with one of those picks. Now let the team start to mature.

Would not upset me.

NBT · #69 12-02-2008, 02:48 PM

You really think John Wilson Parker will last to the 7th round? I mean I do like him but............?

kRocket · #70 12-02-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

I am not feeling the love for Mount Cody, IMO, he is a huge guy that is out of shape and not on the field enough. The way Franklin plays them I do not see Cody making it out of training camp.

PK, I am not an expert by any means, but Walter has Cody rated as the No. 1 DT prospect and a Top 15 prospect while they rate B J Raji a second rounder. That would be a wider gap than I would be comfortable with. Mount Cody is a run stuffer which is our biggest weakness and one reason why we can't turn loose Mario and Amobi completely.

BTW, I think there might be a good chance that Jethro is leaving along with R. Smith. He has not shown much for the 3 high number one pick's that he has to work with.

painekiller · #71 12-02-2008, 04:24 PM

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PK, I am not an expert by any means, but Walter has Cody rated as the No. 1 DT prospect and a Top 15 prospect while they rate B J Raji a second rounder. That would be a wider gap than I would be comfortable with. Mount Cody is a run stuffer which is our biggest weakness and one reason why we can't turn loose Mario and Amobi completely.

BTW, I think there might be a good chance that Jethro is leaving along with R. Smith. He has not shown much for the 3 high number one pick's that he has to work with.

And Walters doesn't even have Greene ranked.

We see this every year, some national lists rank the guys based on preseason hype, they start to raise the players and lower the players a little bit during the season. But most of the draft orders we see do not get worked out until after the bowls and combine number are in.

I can see guys like Raji and Cody dropping, and if I know I can get Raji in the second then I wait on him. Until the Combines and I have a better grasp on every players numbers, I think he is a 1st rounder. Come on Senior Bowl.

painekiller · #72 12-02-2008, 04:28 PM

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You really thing John Wilson Parker will last to the 7th round? I mean I do like him but............?

Had to put some senior QB from a big time program that no one is talking about being a pro guy. I want to see the deep out, and the pocket awareness.

Is Parker one of my guys, no, would I complain about him, no. I was just using a named QB.

painekiller · #73 12-03-2008, 01:49 AM

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A draft of

1 B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
2 Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa
3 Max Unger, C, Oregon
4 Clay Matthews, DE/OLB Southern California
5 Ron Brace, DT, Boston College
6 Ryan Purvis, TE, Boston College
7 John Wilson Parker, QB, Alabama

If the draft where today the Texans would be picking #12, if we win next week that could jump all the way to #16.

At #12 I would target DE George Selvie South Florida
I think you might be correct that Raji might drop, the list I like to use has him as #49, so I take B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College round two.

Shonne Green is hard to get an early grip on, he is going to be 25 years old entering the draft so he might drop, if he is available in round 3 jump, other wise a few targets might be Jonathan Luigs OC Ark, or Marcus Freeman OLB Ohio St.

A draft of Selvie, Raji, Greene would be huge.

painekiller · #74 12-03-2008, 01:54 AM

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Had to put some senior QB from a big time program that no one is talking about being a pro guy. I want to see the deep out, and the pocket awareness.

Is Parker one of my guys, no, would I complain about him, no. I was just using a named QB.

QBs I am going to track as possible picks:
Mark Sanchez USC
Hunter Cantwell Louisville
Chase Daniel Missouri
David Johnson Tulsa
Graham Harrell Tech, needs to add bulk
Colt McCoy Texas.
Bradford Ok.

Daniels is the one I hope drops and catches Gary's eye. He reminds me of Flutie, he does nothing but win.

kRocket · #75 12-03-2008, 02:27 AM

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And Walters doesn't even have Greene ranked....

Courtesy of:

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009RB.php

11. Shonn Greene*, Iowa
Height: 5-11. Weight: 235
Projected 40 Time: 4.54

Projected Round (2009): 3-4

10/26/08: Shonn Greene has been an absolute beast this year.
Through eight games, Greene has tallied at least 100 yards in every
single game, including a 217-yard, four-touchdown performance
against Wisconsin.

Sounds like Walterfootball.com might agree with you if he is our type of runner ( cut and up field ). He would be a nice combo with Slayton.

NBT · #76 12-03-2008, 11:21 AM

Really sad, into our 7th season, and we haven't solidified the Dline. I know we are still playing Casserly's pick in DT Travis Johnson, but B.J. Raji would look better there IMO. IF he could come right in and assume the DT/NT job. Major job would be to stuff the run and occupy blockers so the DE's could make the pass rush. I am really dissappointed that Okam didn't do better.

painekiller · #77 12-03-2008, 09:32 PM

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Courtesy of:

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009RB.php

11. Shonn Greene*, Iowa
Height: 5-11. Weight: 235
Projected 40 Time: 4.54

Projected Round (2009): 3-4

10/26/08: Shonn Greene has been an absolute beast this year.
Through eight games, Greene has tallied at least 100 yards in every
single game, including a 217-yard, four-touchdown performance
against Wisconsin.

Sounds like Walterfootball.com might agree with you if he is our type of runner ( cut and up field ). He would be a nice combo with Slayton.

Thanks for the link, reading the list another RB jumps out at me as a late round pick, Keiland Williams. He has looked impressive to me in the games I have seen, just not enough carries. He is a large back with some speed.

5th rounder?

NBT · #78 12-07-2008, 04:07 PM

The fact that Charles Scott was gettig all the touches at LSU says something was wrong with Keiland Williams, don't know what, but it was there.

NBT · #79 12-07-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kRocket

I would love for us to look hard at Mount Cody from the Tide. I hope he has a rather wide mean streak to go with his size and athleticism. This guy will be our Haynesworth.

As far as QB goes the future is NOW !

In the Alabama Florida game, Cody looked like he had a really severe beer belly. I would much rather B.J.Raji.

kRocket · #80 12-08-2008, 12:32 AM

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In the Alabama Florida game, Cody looked like he had a really severe beer belly. I would much rather B.J.Raji.

You don't find many OL's and DL's with a 6-pack in the NFL. But, I might be interested in Duke Robinson (6-5: 330) in the 1st if he is around or maybe Herman Johnson (6-7: 349) since our rushing game is rounding into shape one of those guys maybe be just the ticket next to Winston.

However; I still like Cody as our NT. All thru college he has been double and triple teamed so Amobi and Mario should be turned loose (no more read and react).