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Old 10-20-2008, 06:52 PM
Big Texas Big Texas is offline
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That simply had to be blown coverage by a Texans DB assigned to give Petey some help in that scenario ? I just can't believe a coaching staff would be so incompetant, really so reckless as to not give him help over top ?
If that were the case (which I dont think it was) R. Smith should have been chewing someone's ass out on the way to the sideline.

Now that I think of it, he should have been chewing people out all season long. But because he hasn't has led me to believe that it truly has been his incompetent play calling.
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:15 PM
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If that were the case (which I dont think it was) R. Smith should have been chewing someone's ass out on the way to the sideline.

Now that I think of it, he should have been chewing people out all season long. But because he hasn't has led me to believe that it truly has been his incompetent play calling.
It clearly was the case. We doubled him and paid him all of the attention all day long. He had the one long TD and that was it. It seems fairly obvious they came in not wanting to get beat by him and schemed accordingly. That makes it even worse that both the CB and the S bit on the play fake and were out of position on that play. Of course the CB was Faggins and the S was a Houston Texans safety.
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Old 10-21-2008, 03:12 PM
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It looked to me like Detroit did a hulluva job of adjusting to what we were doing during halftime, whereas Kubiak just went on with the same 'Ol same O. I think Kubiak just took Detroit too much for granted after that first half we had, and thought we could just merrily rock on with the same offense. Wrong. I blame Kubiak and I am getting a little tired of doing that. He is either overconfident or insecure. I can't figure out which. We do seem to be better at coming from behind than we do holding on to a lead.
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Old 10-21-2008, 03:57 PM
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Not to defend the coaches too much because I think they got too conservative in the second half, but think about your statement for a second.

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It looked to me like Detroit did a hulluva job of adjusting to what we were doing during halftime

Detroit had to adjust, they were getting their butts kicked all over the field.

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whereas Kubiak just went on with the same 'Ol same O.
the same 'Ol samd O, worked pretty darn good in the first half. Why should they have made any adjustments. detroit never stopped them the entire first half on offense, and if not for a Schaub fumble they would have scored on every drive they had in the first half. The defense had done a pretty good job in the first half as well. They should not have been making many adjustments at all. If anything you should be down on them for adjusting the gameplan. What they did in the first half was clearly working.
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:02 AM
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i agree with cadams.

Its the post half adustments and conservative play calling that I didnt like. Not half time adjustments.

Maybe it was the half time adjustments that killed them instead of keeping on with what was working?
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:51 AM
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All this talk about going conservative in the second half just didn’t jive with my memory of the game so I looked up the drive chart on the game. Here it is –

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playby...2008&week=REG7

1st drive of 2nd half – pass, run, pass (sack)
2nd drive – pass, run, pass, pass, run, run, pass, pass, run, pass, pass, run (4th down sneak), run, run, pass (TD)
3rd drive – run, pass, run, fumbled snap, run, pass
4th drive - pass, run, run, pass
last drive – all runs

By my count, that’s 14 passing plays and 13 running plays, excluding the final drive. I think this shows pretty clearly that the play calling was still pretty aggressive in the 2nd half, at least up until the final drive (which I think was properly conservative). The difference was the execution (sack, fumbled snap, incompletions, etc.). I don’t think the idea that we played it close to the vest in the 2nd half is accurate.
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Old 10-22-2008, 10:07 AM
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I don’t think the idea that we played it close to the vest in the 2nd half is accurate.
The players might not have been as intense, but I didn't think offensively the play calling was that bad. I actually wondered why we weren't running more...it worked pretty well in the first half. Kubiak mentioned that the coaches need to stay aggersive....he mentioned himself offensively and Smith Defensively. My own little conspiracy theory is that he was putting a little heat on Smith.

It's harder to judge how aggressive a defensive play-call because it's not as easy to know what the defense was trying to do on a certain play. I saw some blitzing in the first half, but wasn't paying as close of attention in the second half because of the big lead....and the beer.
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