Official Texans vs. Seahawks Game Thread, 9/29/2013

[barrett]

Originally Posted by chuck

No one brings in competition for their quarterback? How the hell did Wilson and Kaepernick come to be starters?

Who did they replace?

Seattle drafted one guy and signed another. They got two guys to compete and once one had the job they got rid of the other. They did not bring in competition for the established guy.

In SF Smith was never Harbaugh's guy. He inherited him, tried to replace him and struck out (manning), and then replaced him. And again, as soon as they made the switch they got Smith out of town because nobody actually wants competition at QB.

When a guy is an established starter you replace him or you don't (or you go Greg Schiano and half replace him and ruin his ability to play QB for your team because the whole team knows you don't want him). And we should have replaced ours. Not replacing him cost us a season (the last of AJ being AJ?), and might cost a whole bunch of people there job.

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by barrett

Who did they replace?

Seattle drafted one guy and signed another. They got two guys to compete and once one had the job they got rid of the other. They did not bring in competition for the established guy.

In SF Smith was never Harbaugh's guy. He inherited him, tried to replace him and struck out (manning), and then replaced him. And again, as soon as they made the switch they got Smith out of town because nobody actually wants competition at QB.

When a guy is an established starter you replace him or you don't (or you go Greg Schiano and half replace him and ruin his ability to play QB for your team because the whole team knows you don't want him).

You're right that Smith was Harbaugh's guy but you're greatly underselling how that went down. Smith was coming off a 13-3 season and an appearance in the NFC championship game and was the highest rated passer in the NFL when he got hurt. You're a good poster who prides himself on being reasonable and relying on the facts (a good natured dig after your minor scuffle here last week), so let's deal with what actually happened. Benching Smith at that time was huge.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Joshua

You're right that Smith was Harbaugh's guy but you're greatly underselling how that went down. Smith was coming off a 13-3 season and an appearance in the NFC championship game and was the highest rated passer in the NFL when he got hurt. You're a good poster who prides himself on being reasonable and relying on the facts (a good natured dig after your minor scuffle here last week), so let's deal with what actually happened. Benching Smith at that time was huge.

It was. Sorry I undersold it as it wasn't my intention. I wasn't talking about the situation being small. When Harbaugh did that it was shocking, took huge balls, a bigger ego, and was potentially smart or maybe (still to this point) really stupid.

My point wasn't about the decision, it was about the fact that Harbaugh was clearly NEVER sold on Smith. They won that first year with running game and defense. Then they tried to replace him and couldn't. Then Harbaugh bold face lied and said they didn't. Then Smith actually played really well and Harbaugh still replaced him. And then got rid of him. It was clear in retrospect (no matter how shocking it was at the time) that Harbaugh never wanted Smith. When he drafted Kaepernick, Smith was terrible and had never played a down for Harbaugh.

It was definitely not a case of Smith being Harbaugh's QB and then Harbaugh went out and spent a 2nd round pick on a guy who could challenge him for the job. That doesn't happen in the NFL. You keep your QB until you don't believe in him and then you replace him and get rid of him as quick as possible. Kubiak/Smith should have reached this point with Schaub. But I sincerely hope another average year from Schaub gets him replaced, not brought back with competition.