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Old 02-16-2012, 11:42 AM
HPF Bob HPF Bob is offline
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So, just to be clear, you would let Mario Williams walk and trade (or cut) Matt Schaub just to sign a 36-year-old quarterback who might be just one good blow to the head away from being back on the IR even if he was completely healthy?

Yes, Manning has had a Hall of Fame career but do we really dump two younger, healthier Pro Bowlers for an old QB with a questionable neck?

I suppose if we shopped Schaub for a pair of #1s and could make that deal, it could be doable but you'd then need to get another franchise quarterback ready in 2-3 years.
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:12 PM
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So, just to be clear, you would let Mario Williams walk and trade (or cut) Matt Schaub just to sign a 36-year-old quarterback who might be just one good blow to the head away from being back on the IR even if he was completely healthy?

Yes, Manning has had a Hall of Fame career but do we really dump two younger, healthier Pro Bowlers for an old QB with a questionable neck?

I suppose if we shopped Schaub for a pair of #1s and could make that deal, it could be doable but you'd then need to get another franchise quarterback ready in 2-3 years.
The only reason you play this game is to win superbowls. A healthy Peyton Manning on this Texans team with the offensive talent around him and our defense is about the biggest superbowl favorite of the past half decade. I trade away a half a dozen good Schaub years for that any day of the week. Especially since Manning is asking for an incentive based contract with no gaurantees.

If you could be assured of Peyton's health and you didn't coach the Patriots, Giants, Saints or Packers you take a long look at this. Of course his health is not a sure thing right now and probably won't be by the time he signs. So it will likely be a team with more incentive to roll the dice. As long as Schaub is recovering we don't have that incentive for at least another year (until we see where this team goes in a healthy year).
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:16 PM
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If I knew Manning were completely healthy I would take him in an instant and sort out the rest later. I do not know that, cannot know that and, frankly, assume that he is not healthy so this whole fantasy is a rhetorical cul-de-sac.
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:22 PM
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If I knew Manning were completely healthy I would take him in an instant and sort out the rest later. I do not know that, cannot know that and, frankly, assume that he is not healthy so this whole fantasy is a rhetorical cul-de-sac.
I agree with all of this. If it wasn't the offseason I would dismiss it. But since I have no actual football news to contemplate, I can compare a hypothetically healthy Peyton vs a hypothetically healthy Schaub (and even as a huge Schaub fan that is no comparison).
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:55 PM
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Remind me again how many Super Bowls Peyton Manning won and what quarterbacks did he beat to get those rings. Thanks. I'll hang up and listen...
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Old 02-16-2012, 07:52 PM
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Remind me again how many Super Bowls Peyton Manning won and what quarterbacks did he beat to get those rings. Thanks. I'll hang up and listen...
Are you serious? Your argument for keeping schaub instead of manning is he ONLY won one superbowl?
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:34 AM
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Are you serious? Your argument for keeping schaub instead of manning is he ONLY won one superbowl?
Totally. YOUR argument was that we needed to get Manning because the only reason to play in the NFL is to win the Super Bowl and we should jettison everything we've built (Mario, Schaub) so we can add one person who has won one Super Bowl. As great as Manning has been, he has only won one Super Bowl in 13 seasons (7%) and only appeared in the Super Bowl twice (15%).

IOW, adding Manning is FAR from any guarantee of making or winning a Super Bowl yet you're willing to sacrifice so much just to add him to the roster. Ask the Vikings how that strategy worked with Brett Favre. In fact, ask the Jets too while you're at it.
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