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Old 02-15-2012, 05:36 PM
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I'd let Mario walk in a heartbeat if it meant signing a healthy Peyton. It is a QB league and the only thing better than the ability to kill an elite QB is to have one of the 5 elite guys yourself.
Wow. Talk about fool's gold. I know you've been big on keeping Mario but then you'd throw him away for, at best, a two-year rental when we already have a pro-bowl caliber QB and now a playoff-tested backup? Even if Manning were in top condition, this is a terrible idea.
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:42 PM
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I stopped listening to Allen's report when he said that he heard it from someone who is close to someone who is close to Manning....or something like that.

Kubiak isn't going to give up control of "his" offense. Not going to happen.
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Old 02-16-2012, 07:09 PM
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I stopped listening to Allen's report when he said that he heard it from someone who is close to someone who is close to Manning....or something like that.

Kubiak isn't going to give up control of "his" offense. Not going to happen.
I am guessing that the source Allen is using is Spencer Tillman, a person that has worked with Archie Manning on college football half time shows. This has the sounds of a controlled leak by the Manning's to scare the Colts.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:13 PM
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I am guessing that the source Allen is using is Spencer Tillman, a person that has worked with Archie Manning on college football half time shows. This has the sounds of a controlled leak by the Manning's to scare the Colts.
Don't you think Irsay moved away from Peyton a long time ago ?
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:31 AM
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Don't you think Irsay moved away from Peyton a long time ago ?
Yes I do think that, but that will not stop Peyton from trying to win the public relation war. Indy fans do not want him to end up in Houston.
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:50 PM
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We've found a cheaper keeper now in TJ Yates so the idea of throwing money at Manning makes no sense at all.
Comical to even contemplate preferring Yates to Manning. I wouldn't loose any sleep if we cut Yates tomorrow. He showed me nothing but inaccuracy and bad decisions in his limited starts.


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Even if Manning were in top condition, this is a terrible idea.
That's ridiculus....

First of all,
Mario is as good as gone, regardless if we sign Manning or not. The Texans aren't gonna pay the oft' injured DE $20 Million a season, especially considering how well Brooks played in his abscence. Fools Gold would be to keep him with a bloated new contract.

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You need good QB play to win in the playoffs, not a guy with accuracy issues throwing in to triple coverage on multiple occasions. Yates' decision making is as suspect as your assertions.
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:40 PM
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It makes no sense to pay a big contract (and it will be a big contract) to have Manning wear a clipboard and say "Attaboy Matt" or vice versa if Manning starts over Schaub. If we kept Mario (and I'm not fully in that camp), at least we would still be giving plenty of time to all three OLBs rotating them in and out. You don't do that with quarterbacks so it would be a waste of money unless one gets injured.

As for Yates, do you forget he beat the Bengals not once but twice? Plenty of QBs look bad against the Ravens. Given he was pressed into service with little preparation, I thought he did fine. I'd be happy to put him as the #2 quarterback behind Schaub and spend the money somewhere else.

Who has been backing up Tom Brady? Drew Brees? Aaron Rodgers? Guys they've paid a pittance to and have rarely been burned by the decision. Peyton Manning is too old to be anything except a short-term investment.

Really, I'm astounded some of you are even seriously entertaining this. Even if he's not damaged goods, he and Schaub both cost too much to be stuck to the bench.
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:29 PM
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I don't think it's feasible that Manning would end up a Texan but if he did there is no way that he and Schaub would be on the same roster. I don't think anyone is envisioning that.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:26 AM
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I don't think it's feasible that Manning would end up a Texan but if he did there is no way that he and Schaub would be on the same roster. I don't think anyone is envisioning that.
Thank you Chuck. In my pipe dream there is no way we have them both.

Even more suprising than Bob thinking I was talking about Manning as a backup was his assertion that it was a bad decision to sign Manning even if he was totally healthy.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:50 AM
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Thank you Chuck. In my pipe dream there is no way we have them both.

Even more suprising than Bob thinking I was talking about Manning as a backup was his assertion that it was a bad decision to sign Manning even if he was totally healthy.
I mean, we're obviously inhabiting a fantasy land by even having this discussion but a healthy Manning plus Reggie Wayne as a #2 (as you [I think it was you] suggested) and I'm making hotel reservations in New Orleans.

The Texans don't have the money, they don't have the answers as to the guy's health, Kubiak has a man crush on Schaub - there are plenty of reasons why this will never happen. But yeah, obviously, if you have the chance to have a healthy version of what may very well be the best quarterback ever to play football I think you probably want to give that a long look.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:42 AM
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So, just to be clear, you would let Mario Williams walk and trade (or cut) Matt Schaub just to sign a 36-year-old quarterback who might be just one good blow to the head away from being back on the IR even if he was completely healthy?

Yes, Manning has had a Hall of Fame career but do we really dump two younger, healthier Pro Bowlers for an old QB with a questionable neck?

I suppose if we shopped Schaub for a pair of #1s and could make that deal, it could be doable but you'd then need to get another franchise quarterback ready in 2-3 years.
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