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Ok, most of you have seen the 7 round mock drafts that DraftTek puts out. However, you can make trades and establish your own priorities for your team and then run a simulation. This can be quite useful information Anyway, many folks around here have voiced the opinion that trading down is a good idea to improve depth and fill holes. So, I traded the #20 pick to the Big Tuna. Miami in turn gave the Texans picks 43, 73, 107, 163, 164, and 169.
Armed with many picks to play with, BPA became more important than need filling. The Simulator drafted the following players for the Texans. 43 Houston Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma 50 Houston Ryan Mathews RBF Fresno State 73 Houston T.J. Ward FS Oregon 83 Houston Lamarr Houston DT43 Texas 107 Houston A.J. Edds OLB43 Iowa 115 Houston Kyle Calloway OT Iowa 146 Houston Ted Larsen OG North Carolina State 163 Houston C.J. Wilson DE43 East Carolina 164 Houston Riley Cooper WRF Florida 169 Houston John Skelton QB Fordham 177 Houston Harry Coleman SS LSU 187 Houston Richard Dickson FB LSU 211 Houston Andre Roberts WRS Citadel When I went through the Mock with my draftboard, this was who I came away with: 43 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St 50 WR *Arrelious Benn 6'2" 214 4.50 Illinois 72 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 4.59 Mississippi St 83 DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 5.18 North Carolina 107 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.68 Iowa 115 OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 320 5.28 Iowa 146 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.52 Vanderbilt 163 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham 164 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 4.95 Kentucky 169 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213 4.54 Indiana 177 OC John Estes 6'2" 295 5.22 Hawaii 187 DE Lindsey Witten 6'4" 248 4.68 Connecticut 211OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.06 TCU
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Okay, I realize that there's probably no deal with Miami, but I just like the way this keeps going. Hit it again, and this is my loot....
43 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 188 4.47 Rutgers 50 WR Arrelious Benn 6'2" 214 4.50 Illinois 73 LG Mike Johnson 6'5" 305 5.38 Alabama 83 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest 107 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.50 Auburn 115 RG Kyle Calloway 6'6" 320 5.28 Iowa 146 NT Linval Joseph 6'6" 322 5.32 East Carolina 163 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.09 East Carolina 164 OC Ted Larsen 6'2" 300 5.24 North Carolina St 169 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham 177 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah 187 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 4.52 Iowa 211 DE Junior Galette 6'2" 244 4.63 Stillman College I don't know if I have Ghee play FS or just leave him at CB. If Robert Johnson can play FS then (you can't have too many good CBs). I can't say that want to draft a WR, but Benn is just too good to pass up at #50. The trenches get beefed up with Johnson, Calloway, and Larsen on offense and the ECU Pirates remain teammates on the DL when I selected Joseph and Ross back to back. With soo many picks, I could grab my QB project as well as a DE/LB from a small school who will at least contribute on Special Teams. I think the steal of this scenario is Ben Tate and McCourty addressed the biggest need the team has if Dunta Robinson is gone. McCourty at #43 is probably as good as any CB we'd be able to select at #20.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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Just so everyone else can play along...this was the draft simulated by DraftTek's website after putting in some trades and priorities. First 3 rounds...
1 St Louis Ndamukong Suh DT43 Nebraska 2 Detroit Gerald McCoy DT43 Oklahoma 3 Tampa Bay Eric Berry FS Tennessee 4 Washington Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State 5 Kansas City Rolando McClain ILB Alabama 6 Seattle Joe Haden CB Florida 7 Cleveland Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame 8 Oakland Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa 9 Buffalo Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma 10 Denver Trent Williams OG Oklahoma 11 Jacksonville Dez Bryant WRF Oklahoma State 12 Miami Dan Williams DT34 Tennessee 13 San Francisco C.J. Spiller RBC Clemson 14 Seattle Derrick Morgan DE43 Georgia Tech 15 NY Giants Earl Thomas FS Texas 16 Tennessee Carlos Dunlap DE43 Florida 17 San Francisco Anthony Davis OT Rutgers 18 Pittsburgh Mike Iupati OG Idaho 19 Atlanta Sean Weatherspoon OLB43 Missouri 20 Miami Golden Tate WRF Notre Dame 21 Cincinnati Taylor Mays SS USC 22 New England Brandon Graham OLB34 Michigan 23 Green Bay Charles Brown OT USC 24 Philadelphia Corey Wootton DE43 Northwestern 25 Baltimore Devin McCourty CB Rutgers 26 Arizona Ricky Sapp OLB34 Clemson 27 Dallas Bruce Campbell OT Maryland 28 San Diego Jared Odrick DE34 Penn State 29 NY Jets Patrick Robinson CB Florida State 30 Minnesota Syd'Quan Thompson CB California 31 Indianapolis Sergio Kindle OLB43 Texas 32 New Orleans Brian Price DT43 UCLA 33 St Louis Everson Griffen DE43 USC 34 Detroit Jason Pierre-Paul DE43 South Florida 35 Tampa Bay Jerry Hughes DE43 TCU 36 Kansas City Maurkice Pouncey OC Florida 37 Washington Colt McCoy QB Texas 38 Cleveland Jonathan Dwyer RBF Georgia Tech 39 Oakland Vladimir Ducasse OT Massachusetts 40 Seattle Jahvid Best RBC California 41 Buffalo Brandon Spikes OLB34 Florida 42 New England Daryl Washington ILB TCU 43 Houston Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma 44 Tampa Bay Brandon LaFell WRF LSU 45 Denver Marshawn Gilyard WRS Cincinnati 46 NY Giants Matt Tennant OC Boston College 47 New England Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma 48 Carolina Jason Worilds DE43 Virginia Tech 49 San Francisco Demaryius Thomas WRP Georgia Tech 50 Houston Ryan Mathews RBF Fresno State 51 Kansas City Terrence Cody DT34 Alabama 52 Pittsburgh Kyle Wilson CB Boise State 53 New England Nate Allen FS South Florida 54 Cincinnati Aaron Hernandez TE Florida 55 Philadelphia Navorro Bowman OLB43 Penn State 56 Green Bay Selvish Capers OT West Virginia 57 Baltimore Damian Williams WRF USC 58 Arizona Sean Lee ILB Penn State 59 Dallas Dexter McCluster WRS Mississippi 60 San Diego Jon Asamoah OT Illinois 61 NY Jets Mike Johnson OG Alabama 62 Minnesota Tim Tebow QB Florida 63 Indianapolis Toby Gerhart RBF Stanford 64 New Orleans Jason Fox OT Miami 65 St Louis Arrelious Benn WRF Illinois 66 Detroit Perrish Cox CB Oklahoma State 67 Tampa Bay Tyson Alualu DT43 California 68 Kansas City Morgan Burnett SS Georgia Tech 69 Oakland Tony Pike QB Cincinnati 70 Philadelphia Brandon Ghee CB Wake Forest 71 Cleveland Greg Hardy OLB34 Mississippi 72 Buffalo Eric Norwood ILB South Carolina 73 Houston T.J. Ward FS Oregon 74 Chicago Reshad Jones SS Georgia 75 Jacksonville Chad Jones SS LSU 76 NY Giants Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona 77 Carolina Dan LeFevour QB Central Michigan 78 Tennessee Kareem Jackson CB Alabama 79 San Francisco John Jerry OG Mississippi 80 Denver Jerome Murphy CB South Florida 81 Atlanta Koa Misi DE43 Utah 82 Pittsburgh Anthony Dixon RBF Mississippi State 83 Houston Lamarr Houston DT43 Texas 84 Cincinnati Jordan Shipley WRS Texas 85 Oakland Rennie Curran OLB43 Georgia 86 Green Bay Amari Spievey CB Iowa 87 Philadelphia Brandon Lang DE43 Troy 88 Baltimore Dezmon Briscoe WRP Kansas 89 Arizona Ed Dickson TE Oregon 90 Dallas Donovan Warren CB Michigan 91 San Diego Montario Hardesty RBF Tennessee 92 Cleveland Carlton Mitchell WRF South Florida 93 Minnesota J.D. Walton OG Baylor 94 Indianapolis Jimmy Graham TE Miami 95 New Orleans Austen Lane DE43 Murray State
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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Here is the rest of the simulation...
96 St Louis Joe McKnight RBC USC 97 Detroit Rodger Saffold OT Indiana 98 Tampa Bay Larry Asante OLB43 Nebraska 99 Kansas City Ciron Black OG LSU 100 Washington Brandon Carter OG Texas Tech 101 Seattle Jarrett Brown QB West Virginia 102 Cleveland Anthony McCoy TE USC 103 Oakland Cam Thomas DT43 North Carolina 104 Buffalo Jared Veldheer OT Hillsdale 105 Chicago Alex Carrington DE43 Arkansas State 106 Jacksonville Jevan Snead QB Mississippi 107 Houston A.J. Edds OLB43 Iowa 108 Carolina Jeremy Williams WRF Tulane 109 Tennessee Arthur Jones DT43 Syracuse 110 San Francisco Major Wright SS Florida 111 Denver Garrett Graham TE Wisconsin 112 NY Giants Darryl Sharpton ILB Miami 113 Pittsburgh George Selvie OLB34 South Florida 114 Atlanta Javier Arenas CB Alabama 115 Houston Kyle Calloway OT Iowa 116 New England Mike Neal DE34 Purdue 117 Cincinnati Taylor Price WRF Ohio 118 Philadelphia Joique Bell RBF Wayne State 119 Green Bay Akwasi Owusu-Ansah FS Indiana (PA) 120 Baltimore Alterraun Verner CB UCLA 121 Arizona Tony Moeaki FB Iowa 122 Dallas Chris Cook FS Virginia 123 San Diego Joshua Moore CB Kansas State 124 Philadelphia Kam Chancellor FS Virginia Tech 125 Minnesota Willie Young DE43 North Carolina State 126 New Orleans Dekoda Watson OLB43 Florida State 127 Indianapolis Darrell Stuckey SS Kansas 128 St Louis Freddie Barnes WRF Bowling Green 129 Detroit Mitch Petrus OG Arkansas 130 Cleveland Trevard Lindley CB Kentucky 131 St Louis Dennis Pitta TE BYU 132 Kansas City Mike Williams WRF Syracuse 133 Cleveland Torrell Troup DT34 Central Florida 134 Oakland Jeff Owens DT43 Georgia 135 Seattle D'Anthony Smith DT43 Louisiana Tech 136 Buffalo Vince Oghobaase DE34 Duke 137 Jacksonville Roddrick Muckelroy OLB43 Texas 138 Kansas City Ben Tate RBF Auburn 139 Chicago Eric Decker WRF Minnesota 140 Tennessee Danario Alexander WRP Missouri 141 San Francisco Zac Robinson QB Oklahoma State 142 Detroit LeGarrette Blount RBF Oregon 143 NY Giants Shay Hodge WRF Mississippi 144 Kansas City Colin Peek TE Alabama 145 Atlanta Sam Young OT Notre Dame 146 Houston Ted Larsen OG North Carolina State 147 Pittsburgh Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky 148 Cincinnati Pat Angerer ILB Iowa 149 Tampa Bay Charles Scott RBF LSU 150 Green Bay Jermaine Cunningham OLB34 Florida 151 St Louis Thaddeus Gibson OLB43 Ohio State 152 Baltimore Myron Lewis FS Vanderbilt 153 Arizona Sean Canfield QB Oregon State 154 New England Zane Beadles OT Utah 155 San Diego Jamar Chaney ILB Mississippi State 156 Cleveland Rashawn Jackson FB Virginia 157 Minnesota Ed Wang OT Virginia Tech 158 Indianapolis Jacoby Ford WRS Clemson 159 Philadelphia Brian Jackson CB Oklahoma 160 St Louis Myron Rolle SS Florida State 161 Detroit Jamar Wall CB Texas Tech 162 Tampa Bay Adam Ulatoski OT Texas 163 Houston C.J. Wilson DE43 East Carolina 164 Houston Riley Cooper WRF Florida 165 Carolina Geno Atkins DT43 Georgia 166 Seattle Kevin Haslam OT Rutgers 167 Cleveland Perry Riley ILB LSU 168 Buffalo Sergio Render OG Virginia Tech 169 Houston John Skelton QB Fordham 170 Chicago Chris Scott OG Tennessee 171 Jacksonville Cameron Sheffield DE43 Troy 172 San Francisco Devin Ross CB Arizona 173 Denver Jacob Hickman OC Nebraska 174 NY Giants Kavell Conner OLB43 Clemson 175 Cleveland Robert Johnson FS Utah 176 Tennessee O'Brien Schofield OLB43 Wisconsin 177 Houston Harry Coleman SS LSU 178 Pittsburgh Terrell Skinner FS Maryland 179 Atlanta Andrew Quarless TE Penn State 180 New England James Starks RBF Buffalo 181 Cincinnati Eric Olsen OG Notre Dame 182 Buffalo Nate Byham TE Pittsburgh 183 Green Bay Linval Joseph DE34 East Carolina 184 Baltimore Donald Butler ILB Washington 185 Arizona Derek Hardman OT Eastern Kentucky 186 Dallas John Estes OG Hawaii 187 Houston Richard Dickson FB LSU 188 NY Jets Clifton Geathers DE34 South Carolina 189 Minnesota Jeron Mastrud TE Kansas State 190 Philadelphia Nick Polk FS Indiana 191 New Orleans Blair White WRF Michigan State 192 St Louis Jonathan Crompton QB Tennessee 193 Detroit Kyle McCarthy SS Notre Dame 194 Tampa Bay Kurt Coleman SS Ohio State 195 Washington Lonyae Miller RBF Fresno State 196 Miami Lindsey Witten OLB34 Connecticut 197 Seattle Naaman Roosevelt WRF Buffalo 198 Cleveland Chris Marinelli OT Stanford 199 Oakland Walter Thurmond CB Oregon 200 Buffalo Reggie Carter QB UCLA 201 Chicago Stephan Virgil CB Virginia Tech 202 Tampa Bay Reggie Stephens OG Iowa State 203 Miami Kion Wilson ILB South Florida 204 Denver Rahim Alem OLB34 LSU 205 NY Giants Earl Mitchell DT43 Arizona 206 Carolina Antonio Coleman OLB43 Auburn 207 Tennessee Kendrick Lewis FS Mississippi 208 San Francisco Danny Batten OLB34 South Dakota State 209 Pittsburgh Dorin Dickerson FB Pittsburgh 210 St Louis Kevin Basped DE43 Nevada 211 Houston Andre Roberts WRS Citadel 212 Cincinnati Justin Cole OLB43 San Jose State 213 New England Chris Hawkins CB LSU 214 Green Bay Andre Anderson RBF Tulane 215 New England Van Eskridge SS East Carolina 216 Baltimore Matt Kopa OT Stanford 217 Arizona Robert Vaughn CB Connecticut 218 Dallas Leigh Tiffin PK Alabama 219 San Diego Nathan Overbay TE Eastern Washington 220 NY Jets Marcus Easley WRF Connecticut 221 Minnesota Chris Brown RBF Oklahoma 222 Indianapolis Chris McGaha WRF Arizona State 223 New Orleans Antonio Brown WRS Central Michigan
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. Last edited by Roy P; 02-17-2010 at 07:58 PM. |
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#43 Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma I'll stay with him over Wilson, due to size and pre-combine est speed
#50 Jon Asamoah OG Illinois #73 Donovan Warren CB Michigan #83 J.D. Walton OC Baylor 107 A.J. Edds OLB43 Iowa 115 Kam Chancellor FS Virginia Tech 146 Charles Scott RBF LSU 163 Sergio Render OG Virginia Tech 164 John Skelton QB Fordham if i draft a QB this looks like the one to grab, but I don't draft one. 169 James Starks RBF Buffalo 177 Stephan Virgil CB Virginia Tech 187 Richard Dickson FB LSU 211 Leigh Tiffin PK Alabama I've done better.
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50 Jon Asamoah OG Illinois 73 Mike Johnson OG Alabama 83 Donovan Warren CB Michigan Cody stops the run, Asamoah and Johnson help the run, Warren is a larger version of Dunta.
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Draft revision 17 Feb 16.
20 Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF 50 Syd'Quan Thompson California CB 83 Rodger Saffold OT/OG Indiana 115 Major Wright FS Florida 146 Geno Atkins DT43 Georgia 177 C.J. Wilson DE43 East Carolina 187 John Skelton QB Fordham 211 Antonio Coleman OLB43 Auburn Not a bad draft.
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I don't know, other than Dwyer, I am not swept away with that draft.
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20. OT Trent Williams 6'5" 308 5.30 Oklahoma 50. WR Arrelious Benn 6'2" 214 4.50 Illinois 83. RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.55 Stanford 115. DT Linval Joseph 6'6" 322 5.32 East Carolina 146. DT Mike Neal 6'3" 300 4.96 Purdue 177. S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah 187. OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.06 TCU 211. CB Patrick Stoudamire 5'11" 198 4.49 Western Illinois I think the OL would be very much improved with Williams and Newhouse. The DL play would be improved too if Joseph is the player I thought Okam could be. Benn was simply a BPA pick in the 2nd round, that made me want to slide him down my board after the draft because I didn't really make an impact splash on the Secondary. I like Gerhart, but again could have gotten Ben Tate in the next round. I could have gotten Linval Joseph at #146 in this mock (drafted #175). It would have been perfect if CB Donovan Warren had been available at #83 (he was drafted #82) 20 OT T. Williams 50. DT T. Alualu 83. CB D. Warren 115. RB B. Tate 146. DT L. Joseph
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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This isn't using the simulator, but Draftek finally has a mock and players available that I would be happy with just about any combination.
I only am doing the first 4 rounds. Draftek: 1. J. Dwyer RB 2. J Asomoah OG3 3. A. Benn WR 4. Chris Cook FS I could be happy with that draft. Here are some other possibilities, according to Draftek. All these mocks have a lot of disparity as to where a lot of players will be taken. I have seen Myron Rolle anywhere from the 2nd round to the 6th round. Anyway, here are several combinations available according to Draftek that look appealing to me. 1. M. Iupati OG 2. K. Wilson CB 3. Tobe Gerhart RB 4. John Jerry OG 1. Maurkice Pouncey C/OG 2. J. Asamoah OG 3. Donovan Warren CB 4. Ben Tate RB 1. Brian Price DT 2. Perrish Cox CB 3. Cam Thomas DT 4. Mitch Petrus OG 1. Sean Weatherspoon OLB 2. J.D. Walton C 3. Donovan Warren CB 4. Joique Bell RB Other available 4th round guys I think would be good values are: Zane Beadles OL A.J. Edds OLB Mike Williams WR I think you could mix and match a lot of different ways and come up with a good draft. |
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2. J. Asamoah OG 3. Donovan Warren CB 4. Ben Tate RB Now, I just need a NT and FS Perhaps Linval Joseph and Myron Rolle or Brian Jackson.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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I would be happy with that. I just wish someone could guarantee those players would be available at those picks.
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You just beat me to this: Mock #18 Feb 23, 2010
DraftTek 20 Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF 50 Jon Asamoah Illinois OG 83 Arrelious Benn WRF Illinois 115 Chris Cook FS Virginia 146 D'Anthony Smith DT43 Louisiana Tech 177 C.J. Wilson DE43 East Carolina 187 Jamar Wall CB Texas Tech 211 Dorin Dickerson FB Pittsburgh MY Cherry Pick 20 Mike Iupati Idaho OG 50 Kyle Wilson Boise State CB 83 Amari Spievey CB Iowa 115 A.J. Edds OLB43 Iowa 146 James Starks RBF Buffalo 177 Andre Anderson RBF Tulane 187 Walter Thurmond CB/S Oregon 211 Leigh Tiffin PK Alabama Iupati is not what I want, but if the coaches believe in his raw skills and he shows coachability, BPA IMO at #20, I vote for a trade down as you know. Wilson should start, Spievey should get playing time. Edds is depth for WILL and should push Diles in a year or two. Will push Adibi. Starks and Anderson will play. Thurmond should be able to play FS in our system. Tiffin no explanation necessary.
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20. DT Dan Williams 6'3" 325 5.23 Tennessee 50. LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.59 Missouri 82. DT Tyson Alualu 6'2" 295 4.96 California 115. RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.50 Auburn 146. OT Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana 177. OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 320 5.28 Iowa 187. CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA 211. FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.52 Vanderbilt Think we could pull that off? That'd be cool. ![]()
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PK, tell me about Speivey, if you don't mind.
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Using the 2/23 update of DraftTek Mock draft and My Guys, this is what I came up with.... 20. LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.59 Missouri 50. CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St 83. CB Donovan Warren 6'0" 185 4.42 Michigan 115. RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.50 Auburn 146. DT Linval Joseph 6'6" 322 5.32 East Carolina 177. DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.09 East Carolina 187. FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 4.52 Texas Tech 211. OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.06 TCU Loaded up on Secondary and DL.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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A few quotes first;
GazetteOnline interview with Mike Mayock Quote:
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Thanks for the info.
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