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Old 02-24-2010, 03:20 PM
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This isn't using the simulator, but Draftek finally has a mock and players available that I would be happy with just about any combination.

I only am doing the first 4 rounds.

Draftek:

1. J. Dwyer RB
2. J Asomoah OG3
3. A. Benn WR
4. Chris Cook FS

I could be happy with that draft. Here are some other possibilities, according to Draftek. All these mocks have a lot of disparity as to where a lot of players will be taken. I have seen Myron Rolle anywhere from the 2nd round to the 6th round. Anyway, here are several combinations available according to Draftek that look appealing to me.

1. M. Iupati OG
2. K. Wilson CB
3. Tobe Gerhart RB
4. John Jerry OG

1. Maurkice Pouncey C/OG
2. J. Asamoah OG
3. Donovan Warren CB
4. Ben Tate RB

1. Brian Price DT
2. Perrish Cox CB
3. Cam Thomas DT
4. Mitch Petrus OG

1. Sean Weatherspoon OLB
2. J.D. Walton C
3. Donovan Warren CB
4. Joique Bell RB

Other available 4th round guys I think would be good values are:

Zane Beadles OL
A.J. Edds OLB
Mike Williams WR

I think you could mix and match a lot of different ways and come up with a good draft.
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Old 02-24-2010, 05:42 PM
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I think you could mix and match a lot of different ways and come up with a good draft.
1. Sean Weatherspoon OLB
2. J. Asamoah OG
3. Donovan Warren CB
4. Ben Tate RB

Now, I just need a NT and FS

Perhaps Linval Joseph and Myron Rolle or Brian Jackson.
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Old 02-24-2010, 05:53 PM
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I would be happy with that. I just wish someone could guarantee those players would be available at those picks.
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Old 02-24-2010, 06:06 PM
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I would be happy with that. I just wish someone could guarantee those players would be available at those picks.
If we are going to get guaranteed players then, I'd go with this....

20. DT Dan Williams 6'3" 325 5.23 Tennessee
50. LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.59 Missouri
82. DT Tyson Alualu 6'2" 295 4.96 California
115. RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.50 Auburn
146. OT Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
177. OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 320 5.28 Iowa
187. CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
211. FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.52 Vanderbilt

Think we could pull that off? That'd be cool.
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Old 02-24-2010, 06:08 PM
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If we are going to get guaranteed players then, I'd go with this....

20. DT Dan Williams 6'3" 325 5.23 Tennessee
50. LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.59 Missouri
82. DT Tyson Alualu 6'2" 295 4.96 California
115. RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.50 Auburn
146. OT Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
177. OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 320 5.28 Iowa
187. CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
211. FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.52 Vanderbilt

Think we could pull that off? That'd be cool.
No doubt, that would be great. Do you really think Williams will be there in the first and Weatherspoon in the second?
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Old 02-24-2010, 06:53 PM
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No doubt, that would be great. Do you really think Williams will be there in the first and Weatherspoon in the second?
No, I don't think either.

Using the 2/23 update of DraftTek Mock draft and My Guys, this is what I came up with....

20. LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.59 Missouri
50. CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St
83. CB Donovan Warren 6'0" 185 4.42 Michigan
115. RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.50 Auburn
146. DT Linval Joseph 6'6" 322 5.32 East Carolina
177. DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.09 East Carolina
187. FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 4.52 Texas Tech
211. OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.06 TCU

Loaded up on Secondary and DL.
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Old 02-24-2010, 06:01 PM
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You just beat me to this: Mock #18 Feb 23, 2010
DraftTek
20 Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF
50 Jon Asamoah Illinois OG
83 Arrelious Benn WRF Illinois
115 Chris Cook FS Virginia
146 D'Anthony Smith DT43 Louisiana Tech
177 C.J. Wilson DE43 East Carolina
187 Jamar Wall CB Texas Tech
211 Dorin Dickerson FB Pittsburgh

MY Cherry Pick

20 Mike Iupati Idaho OG
50 Kyle Wilson Boise State CB
83 Amari Spievey CB Iowa
115 A.J. Edds OLB43 Iowa
146 James Starks RBF Buffalo
177 Andre Anderson RBF Tulane
187 Walter Thurmond CB/S Oregon
211 Leigh Tiffin PK Alabama

Iupati is not what I want, but if the coaches believe in his raw skills and he shows coachability, BPA IMO at #20, I vote for a trade down as you know.

Wilson should start, Spievey should get playing time. Edds is depth for WILL and should push Diles in a year or two. Will push Adibi.

Starks and Anderson will play.

Thurmond should be able to play FS in our system.

Tiffin no explanation necessary.
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Old 02-24-2010, 06:06 PM
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PK, tell me about Speivey, if you don't mind.
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Old 02-24-2010, 09:27 PM
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PK, tell me about Speivey, if you don't mind.
A few quotes first;

GazetteOnline interview with Mike Mayock
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“As far as corners, Spievey, I like him a lot as a physical, press, cover-2-type corner. I’m anxious to see what he runs; he’s only a junior so we don’t have any height, weight, speed on him. He’s one of those Iowa corners that also could translate, a la Charles Godfrey, to free safety, which adds to his versatility."
Read this interview on Scout.com

Quote:
Ed Thompson: As you look back on your career at Iowa, what are you really proud of?

Amari Spievey: To start both years I was there after I got kicked out and came back, that was great. To be able to compete at a high level and help the defense win and to be a huge factor on the defense and lock down my side every game.

Thompson: You started out with a bump in the road, redshirting your freshman year and left to go to Iowa Central Community College. While you were there you got your academics on track and had a standout season for their football team. Talk about how that experience of being forced to leave Iowa benefited you in the long run.

Spievey: It re-humbled me. Getting kicked out and going there was a big wake-up call. It made me appreciate the opportunity and blessings I had at Iowa and made me fight even harder to reach my goal. I knew if I got a chance to come back it would be my last chance, and I wanted to make the best of it.
I not going to say I have watched a bunch of tape on this kid, but I like what I have seen. The kid is listed 5-11 190 and is expected to run a 4.5. I like the mental side in the interviews and he has man to man skill and can play in a zone. Something about him intrigues me.
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Old 02-24-2010, 11:10 PM
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Thanks for the info.
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:18 PM
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I just rewatched the Senior Bowl, BTW it will be replayed tomorrow evening on the NFL network, and was thinking outside the box. Roy's likes to use the BPA no matter the position, and after rewatching the game what if we go DE in the 1st?

In the mock we are using Drafttek #18,

the 19th pick, which we will be flipping a coin for tomorrow morning, is Brandon Graham Michigan DE43.

Roy had him select BPA in one of his mocks and I questioned him, but now I think he might be right. Graham is unblockable and he plays the run as well as Mario. Imagine a front four of Mario, NT/Robinson/Okam/Cody, Okoye/Smith,
Graham. Those DEs would be unblockable. Now I would go with the biggest body DT that produced that I had so the other teams could not run up the gut.

Now what do I do with Barwin? How about a 3-4 on passing downs? Smith-Okoye-Williams in front of Barwin-Cushing-Ryans-Graham. Bring the chaos, flood the gaps BTW not a bad idea for a base defense if you upgrade the NT, IMO.

2nd round be back to the teams idea of BPA, I like a handful of guys at 50.
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Old 02-26-2010, 12:46 AM
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First, let me just say that I am behind the idea of a 3-man front on 3rd down. The question becomes how aggressive I am to put a 4th LB on the field or that extra DB on the back end. This is why I have no problem taking Weatherspoon in the first round.

Secondly, I didn't have Graham as my pick, it was Wooten from NorthWestern in the 2nd round at #50. Wooten is bigger and I could use him like Antonio Smith and use him as a pass-rushing DT when I brought in Barwin as a pass-rushing DE specialist. Graham and Barwin are essentially the same player-type in my estimation. Obviously, Graham is probably better against the run as he's more polished.

Now, will I have a problem taking Graham? Nope. I like pass-rushers, especially if there isn't any quality DBs available. Other than Haden, um, I don't see any "1st round" CBs in this draft. Ergo, select where the talent is. I just wouldn't go that route in the first round.
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Old 02-27-2010, 10:36 PM
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Using their draft I would go with:

20. Brian Price, DT, UCLA
51. Anthony Dixon, RB, Miss St
82. Donovan Warren, CB, Michigan
119. Dekoda Watson, OLB, Florida State
152. Linval Joseph, DT, E.C.U.
177. Robert Johnson, FS, Utah
187. Reggie Stephens, OG, Iowa St.
213. *Leigh Tiffin or best kicker available*
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