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Old 06-03-2008, 11:50 AM
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f that. i would strike too that is stupid!! those fishing boats require a lot more gas than a car does too, at 9 bucks a gallon that adds up pretty quick.

even more shocking though was that venezuelan's pay 12 cents for a gallon. 12 CENTS.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:24 PM
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even more shocking though was that venezuelan's pay 12 cents for a gallon. 12 CENTS.
Only because it is subsidized by the government thanks to relatively high taxes, but mainly it is paid for with profits from their national oil company.

It is a major problem for them not only becuase of the strain it puts on their oil company, but any time they try to raise the prices it causes major riots. Chavez actually got famous during one of the gas increase riots.....and now he's desperately trying to raise gas prices. They also have major inflation problems.

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Old 06-03-2008, 02:45 PM
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oh....

well....

nothing is free....but why does it have to be so hard?!?!?!

seriously, if anyone found a way to make solar panels cost efficient that person is going to be rich out the wazoo. rich enough to rename a part of the body a wazoo, and then have all of their money fall out of it.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:52 PM
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oh....

well....

nothing is free....but why does it have to be so hard?!?!?!

seriously, if anyone found a way to make solar panels cost efficient that person is going to be rich out the wazoo. rich enough to rename a part of the body a wazoo, and then have all of their money fall out of it.
They have figured it out. Checkout a company called Nano Solar I think is the name. Very cheap and very efficient panels. So much so that they are sold out for the next three years and power companies are converting to them. I would be splapping them on my house if I could get a hold of them.
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:03 AM
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They have figured it out. Checkout a company called Nano Solar I think is the name. Very cheap and very efficient panels. So much so that they are sold out for the next three years and power companies are converting to them. I would be splapping them on my house if I could get a hold of them.
WAZOO!!!

i'd be slapping them on my house if i could get a hold of them and change my deed restrictions.

my girl told me that solar panels also help the power grid by taking excess energy and spreading the wealth...i'm not totally sure if that's true but if it is and if Nano Solar decides it wants more money than it knows what to do with and sells it technology then power plants are soon to be a thing of the past.
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:31 AM
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WAZOO!!!

i'd be slapping them on my house if i could get a hold of them and change my deed restrictions.

my girl told me that solar panels also help the power grid by taking excess energy and spreading the wealth...i'm not totally sure if that's true but if it is and if Nano Solar decides it wants more money than it knows what to do with and sells it technology then power plants are soon to be a thing of the past.
I've seen that company too, but it was my understanding that they still had some work to do....mainly related to large scale production.

It is possible to "sell" any excess energy your house produces back to the power grid. I guess you would need a two way meter and some extra equipment. I know it can be done but I don't know how it works.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:59 PM
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i'm sure it's totally possible to measure watts going out if we're able to measure watts going in. but i didn't get the feeling it was so much "selling" the power back as it was just spreading it around making the workload on a nuclear-waste-producing or sky-blackening or power plant less. clean!
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It is possible to "sell" any excess energy your house produces back to the power grid. I guess you would need a two way meter and some extra equipment. I know it can be done but I don't know how it works.
From what I understand about the meter thing is that, if your producing more power than your using, the meter runs backwards for that time period. If by the end of the month you are still in the "Negative" ie sold power back, they send you a check for the value of that power at the rate you are a subsciber at. The question comes to my mind, how do you know they are being square with you and I guess you would have to read the meter at the same time they do. There are people/houses that are total power sellers. That would be a nice thing.
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