Mid-Round RB: Who Ya Want?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Javorskie Lane probably won't have his name called until the 6th or 7th round but if you want a guy who moves the pile, he certainly can. He would have to be a short-yardage only guy but there are few I would trust more to get me one yard I absolutely had to get - that is, until he eats half of Sharpstown.

I have not seen any talk about Lane since the all star games. And then it was what a shame he could/would not stop eating.

I do not see him being pick by any one.

[hound]

I like H. Donaldson also for the power back... to come in to rest Slaton and to pound away at the end of the game when you are trying to run out the clock.

I don't think there is any way the Texans will draft a guy before the 3rd... why bring in a new guy and pay him more money to be back up than your top RB who only got 3rd round money. The Texans are most likely to spend the lowest pick they can on a RB that can do what they want.

Another guy I like very, very late... as a roll player RB....

NFLdraftcountdown says...

"Naturally athletic...Very good size and bulk...Strong and runs hard...A patient runner...Excellent hands...Runs great routes...Above average blocker...Smart...Special teams ability...A hard worker...Team leader. A four-time Academic All-Big 12 selection...Was a semifinalist for the Draddy Trophy (Academic Heisman)...Has the ability to play either running back or fullback at the next level...Multitalented player who does everything well but nothing great." 6" 220 runs a 4.6 Averaged 5.0 yards a carry as a senior and caught 46 passes for 540 yards... in fact started college as a wide receiver... Chris Ogbonnaya Probably get him as FA or 7th round...

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

I'm not looking for a sub 4.5 RB in the mid-rounds, I want a thumper that can punch it in on goalline and short yardage situations. If I take a "thumper" in the second or third, then I would look at J. Williams, a local product, as insurance for Slaton.

I don't need sub 4.5 either, but sub 4.6 is a must for me.

Are you talking about Javarris Williams in the 2nd or 3rd round?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Jennings might be available in the 3rd round.

I keep watching the Senior Bowl practices, since Liberty didn't have many games on T.V., and Jennings is not impressing me much. I keep seeing him run high and getting knocked over by "thumps" that the defense is allowed to do in practice. At first, I let is slide when I saw Cushing de-cleat him on a run. However, when Sherrod Martin gives you a love tap and you fall over like Ronnie Lott just tagged you, I start to worry.

If we don't get a Moreno or Brown early, I am starting to think that there is really 3 guys to target afterwards. Andre Brown, Shonn Greene, or Javarris Williams. Brown and Greene might have to be 2nd round targets, only a miracle would allow one to be available at #77,

[edo783]

Originally Posted by Roy P

If we don't get a Moreno or Brown early, I am starting to think that there is really 3 guys to target afterwards. Andre Brown, Shonn Greene, or Javarris Williams. Brown and Greene might have to be 2nd round targets, only a miracle would allow one to be available at #77,

That is the way I read it also. I think/hope we go Mathews/A. brown/Sidbury in the first three. Then take the best FS left and then a SS with the 2 4s. Then an OC, then a Guard and then finish with the BPA. If it happened to fall that way I would be one happy camper.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by edo783

That is the way I read it also. I think/hope we go Mathews/A. brown/Sidbury in the first three. Then take the best FS left and then a SS with the 2 4s. Then an OC, then a Guard and then finish with the BPA. If it happened to fall that way I would be one happy camper.

Just to display it out without any trade downs....

15. LB Clay Matthews USC
46. RB Andre Brown NC State
77. DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond (I'm hopeful for Cody Brown here)
112. S David Bruton Notre Dame
122. S Chris Clemons Clemson
152. OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St
188. OG Anthony Parker Tennessee
223. CB Don Carey Norfolk State

[edo783]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Just to display it out without any trade downs....

15. LB Clay Matthews USC
46. RB Andre Brown NC State
77. DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond (I'm hopeful for Cody Brown here)
112. S David Bruton Notre Dame
122. S Chris Clemons Clemson
152. OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St
188. OG Anthony Parker Tennessee
223. CB Don Carey Norfolk State

OK, let's phone that order in and just kick back. The work is done! That would be one heck of a draft IMO.

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I don't need sub 4.5 either, but sub 4.6 is a must for me.

Are you talking about Javarris Williams in the 2nd or 3rd round?

No, I would take J.W. with one of the 4th rounders at the soonest.

This is what I would do with no trades, not what I think the Texans will do:

15. M. Jenkins CB/FS
46. Eric Woods OL
77. Jason Williams OLB
112. Terrence Knighton DT
122. Kyle Moore DE
152. James Davis RB
188. Lee Robinson OLB/ILB
223. Herb Donaldson RB/FB

[bckey]

My late round/fa sleeper RB is Frank Summers from UNLV.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009...-unlv-pro-day/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz2iGgUrQpI

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2009&genpos=FB

http://draftzoo.com/2009/03/frank-summers-interview/

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

My super duper deepity deep dark horse is Tyler Roehl from North Dakota State. He's a FB/HB/RB hybrid. I call him a shorter Brian Leonard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GNk8EDKFCw&NR=1

263 yards vs. Minnesota

I'll see your 30 reps and raise you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k7cGNeMHQA

[bckey]

OK. I'll go all in!

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I am almost thinking I would make that offer to Indy, and grab the Donald at 27.

I don't know if you have seen this, but it's priceless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRCKz...eature=related

Watch what he does to Clint Sintim at 0:51 of this thing.

Then at 1:05 Sintim has him wrapped up in the backfield, oh no he didn't.

It's like when I was a little kid and watched Tony Dorsett at Pittsburgh. Somebody is going to be happy to have this guy on draft day.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I don't know if you have seen this, but it's priceless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRCKz...eature=related

Watch what he does to Clint Sintim at 0:51 of this thing.

Then at 1:05 Sintim has him wrapped up in the backfield, oh no he didn't.

It's like when I was a little kid and watched Tony Dorsett at Pittsburgh. Somebody is going to be happy to have this guy on draft day.

And I am hoping it's not Indy, would not mind him going to the Cards.

[TexanJedi]

I would like Andre Brown if we can get him in round 3, not as much in round 2. Otherwise I would rather wait for Glen Coffee in the 4th or 5th.

[nero THE zero]

If we're talking mid-rounders, and that excludes A. Brown, D. Brown, S. Greene, K. Moreno, and C. Wells, my preferences are:

1. C. Peerman
2. R. Jennings
3. G. Coffee

But, I would rather take Moreno in the first or Brown in the last first/second (via trade down, not up.) In fact, I'd prefer to trade out of the first round completely for a future first, though that's a different discussion for a different day.

And, FWIW, here are LZ's positional rankings:

Here are my ratings on the offensive side of the ball for the top ten players per position. Keep in mind these ratings reflect my opinion of their draft grade rather than where I think they will be drafted or what order they will be drafted in. This is the order I think they should be drafted in.

Running Backs
1. Knowshon Moreno - Georgia - Top 15
2. Chris "Beanie" Wells - Ohio State - 1st
3. Donald Brown - UConn - 2nd
4. Shonn Green - Iowa - 2nd
5. Rashad Jennings - Liberty - 2nd/3rd
6. LeSean McCoy - Pitt - 2nd/3rd
7. Andre Brown - NC State - 3rd
8. Javon Ringer - Michigan State - 3rd/4th
9. Cedric Peerman - Virginia - 3rd/4th
10. Glen Coffee - Alabama - 4th

Overview: This is a very respectable group of running backs with the strength being in rounds 2-4. Moreno is as good as Cadillac Williams when he came out so I think he's going to be a good value pick if he goes outside of the top 10. As for Wells, all the talent in the world is there, but can he stay healthy? Green looked great all season, but my biggest concerns on him are whether he is a one-year wonder and whether he has enough speed to get to the corner against faster NFL defenses. Donald Brown's good toughness and great balance and he would be a terrific value early in the 2nd. Scouts have said that LeSean McCoy has the ability to be the next Reggie Bush but with better skills as a running back. I know Javon Ringer doesn't have the size/speed that teams covet, but I wouldn't be so quick to overlook his productivity during his stay at Michigan State. He's a tougher runner than maybe some give him credit for.

Most Overrated - Andre Brown, N.C. State: I don't really consider Brown to be overrated, but I think he's a 3rd-rounder and not a 2nd where he'll be drafted. To me, it looks like he is shooting up the draft boards based more on his postseason measurements than his film. James Davis from Clemson would probably be the most overrated RB in the draft in the truest sense of the world

Possible Steal - Chris Ogbonnaya, Texas: He'll be drafted late if he is drafted at all, but there are several things working in his favor. While his top-end speed is limited and he's not the shiftiest back, his ability to play in zone schemes will create opportunities for him. He has terrific hands out of the backfield and is a willing pass protector. He's also not afraid to put his helmet done and get physical if need be. He could be a better pro than college player.