Mid-Round RB: Who Ya Want?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I am almost thinking I would make that offer to Indy, and grab the Donald at 27.

How about a trading down from 15 to the low 20's, get's a 3rd, and then make the offer to Indy of #46 and next years 2nd for 27? ...

Wait, this just in. DraftDaddy.com has a 2 round mock and guess what?

We get Malcolm Jenkins and Donald Brown. Brown at #46. I don't see it.

The trade down option may be there or not. If Everette Brown is still on the board, I'm not trading down. If we get to the low 20's I'm hoping Clay Matthews, Peria Jerry, or Vontae Daivs is the pick. I know you rate Ziggy higher, but I'm a little cautious about him that high. I've seen him moving up draft boards (up to #26 but as low at #37) but he may be climbing more because of his Combine numbers rather than his game film. The good thing about trading down is we would still have a 3rd round pick. That way we could end up with Mathews, Brown, and Vaughn.

Donald Brown at #46? Do they have a bridge for sale too?

[Blitzwood]

I don't think our first rounder will be a situational guy, but more of a starter or tandem RB player, I could see us going with Mack, Woods, Oher, Maclin, or Wells on offense or on defense going with Matthews, Sintim, Jenkins, Butler, Gilbert, Jerry, Hood, or Cushings.

My Mid round RB preferences:
1. S. Greene
2. Andre Brown
2b. Jennings
3. James Davis
4. G. Coffee

Sleeper RB is Herb Donaldson from W. Illinois
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3n26z6Zr98

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

My Mid round RB preferences:
1. S. Greene
2. Andre Brown
2b. Jennings
3. James Davis
4. G. Coffee

Sleeper RB is Herb Donaldson from W. Illinois
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3n26z6Zr98

I don't think that the 2nd round qualifies as "mid round" and that's what Greene and Brown are starting to look like. Jennings might be available in the 3rd round.

I was hot on Donaldson early on, but then his Combine cooled me off after running a 4.68. The same goes for Gartrell Johnson and his 4.75. If I want a slow cruise liner, Arian Foster is a 4.68 guy.

My super duper deepity deep dark horse is Tyler Roehl from North Dakota State. He's a FB/HB/RB hybrid. I call him a shorter Brian Leonard.

[HPF Bob]

Peerman scares me because I ask where was that speed when he was on the playing field? I'd be alright with Brown/Green/Jennings based on whom the Texans believe is the best choice. While Casserly became easy to predict, the Rick Smith era has not been for me other than he seems to like ACC/Big East guys and he has a knack for taking guys who weren't anywhere near my radar.

Thinking outside the box, here are two names to consider as contingencies.

Javorskie Lane probably won't have his name called until the 6th or 7th round but if you want a guy who moves the pile, he certainly can. He would have to be a short-yardage only guy but there are few I would trust more to get me one yard I absolutely had to get - that is, until he eats half of Sharpstown.

Judging by the fact that he signed three FA running backs in the off-season and spent yesterday singing the praises of Peyton Hillis, I'm guessing McDaniels will not be keeping Selvyn Young on the Broncos. Young's proved that, when healthy, he's a legit all-purpose back in a ZBS offense and he would be a cheap back-up for Slaton who will have the offense picked up in no time. He's not an answer to the short-yardage issue but he would be good insurance and wouldn't cost as much as the Chris Brown signing last year. He's also a Houston product so he wouldn't be hard to sign.

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by Keith

thought to be off the board by the Texans' second round pick (though I think he is completely overrated that high and really a poor, poor pick for what the Texans offense needs).


And of course, "other", if you want someone else.

Originally Posted by Roy P

I don't think that the 2nd round qualifies as "mid round" and that's what Greene and Brown are starting to look like. Jennings might be available in the 3rd round.

I was hot on Donaldson early on, but then his Combine cooled me off after running a 4.68. The same goes for Gartrell Johnson and his 4.75. If I want a slow cruise liner, Arian Foster is a 4.68 guy.

Roy, I was keeping with Keith's original post as to who will be there when our 2nd round pick is on the clock, I'm sorry you feel that the 2nd round doesn't "qualify" as a mid rounder....


I'm not looking for a sub 4.5 RB in the mid-rounds, I want a thumper that can punch it in on goalline and short yardage situations. If I take a "thumper" in the second or third, then I would look at J. Williams, a local product, as insurance for Slaton.

A. Foster does too much dancing for a guy his size, IMO, and had some ball security issues in 08. I like H. Donaldson's toughness and determination fighting off tackles. He's got a nice stiff arm and is tough to bring down.

[hound]

I like H. Donaldson also for the power back... to come in to rest Slaton and to pound away at the end of the game when you are trying to run out the clock.

I don't think there is any way the Texans will draft a guy before the 3rd... why bring in a new guy and pay him more money to be back up than your top RB who only got 3rd round money. The Texans are most likely to spend the lowest pick they can on a RB that can do what they want.

Another guy I like very, very late... as a roll player RB....

NFLdraftcountdown says...

"Naturally athletic...Very good size and bulk...Strong and runs hard...A patient runner...Excellent hands...Runs great routes...Above average blocker...Smart...Special teams ability...A hard worker...Team leader. A four-time Academic All-Big 12 selection...Was a semifinalist for the Draddy Trophy (Academic Heisman)...Has the ability to play either running back or fullback at the next level...Multitalented player who does everything well but nothing great." 6" 220 runs a 4.6 Averaged 5.0 yards a carry as a senior and caught 46 passes for 540 yards... in fact started college as a wide receiver... Chris Ogbonnaya Probably get him as FA or 7th round...

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

I'm not looking for a sub 4.5 RB in the mid-rounds, I want a thumper that can punch it in on goalline and short yardage situations. If I take a "thumper" in the second or third, then I would look at J. Williams, a local product, as insurance for Slaton.

I don't need sub 4.5 either, but sub 4.6 is a must for me.

Are you talking about Javarris Williams in the 2nd or 3rd round?

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I don't need sub 4.5 either, but sub 4.6 is a must for me.

Are you talking about Javarris Williams in the 2nd or 3rd round?

No, I would take J.W. with one of the 4th rounders at the soonest.

This is what I would do with no trades, not what I think the Texans will do:

15. M. Jenkins CB/FS
46. Eric Woods OL
77. Jason Williams OLB
112. Terrence Knighton DT
122. Kyle Moore DE
152. James Davis RB
188. Lee Robinson OLB/ILB
223. Herb Donaldson RB/FB

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Javorskie Lane probably won't have his name called until the 6th or 7th round but if you want a guy who moves the pile, he certainly can. He would have to be a short-yardage only guy but there are few I would trust more to get me one yard I absolutely had to get - that is, until he eats half of Sharpstown.

I have not seen any talk about Lane since the all star games. And then it was what a shame he could/would not stop eating.

I do not see him being pick by any one.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Jennings might be available in the 3rd round.

I keep watching the Senior Bowl practices, since Liberty didn't have many games on T.V., and Jennings is not impressing me much. I keep seeing him run high and getting knocked over by "thumps" that the defense is allowed to do in practice. At first, I let is slide when I saw Cushing de-cleat him on a run. However, when Sherrod Martin gives you a love tap and you fall over like Ronnie Lott just tagged you, I start to worry.

If we don't get a Moreno or Brown early, I am starting to think that there is really 3 guys to target afterwards. Andre Brown, Shonn Greene, or Javarris Williams. Brown and Greene might have to be 2nd round targets, only a miracle would allow one to be available at #77,

[edo783]

Originally Posted by Roy P

If we don't get a Moreno or Brown early, I am starting to think that there is really 3 guys to target afterwards. Andre Brown, Shonn Greene, or Javarris Williams. Brown and Greene might have to be 2nd round targets, only a miracle would allow one to be available at #77,

That is the way I read it also. I think/hope we go Mathews/A. brown/Sidbury in the first three. Then take the best FS left and then a SS with the 2 4s. Then an OC, then a Guard and then finish with the BPA. If it happened to fall that way I would be one happy camper.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by edo783

That is the way I read it also. I think/hope we go Mathews/A. brown/Sidbury in the first three. Then take the best FS left and then a SS with the 2 4s. Then an OC, then a Guard and then finish with the BPA. If it happened to fall that way I would be one happy camper.

Just to display it out without any trade downs....

15. LB Clay Matthews USC
46. RB Andre Brown NC State
77. DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond (I'm hopeful for Cody Brown here)
112. S David Bruton Notre Dame
122. S Chris Clemons Clemson
152. OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St
188. OG Anthony Parker Tennessee
223. CB Don Carey Norfolk State

[edo783]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Just to display it out without any trade downs....

15. LB Clay Matthews USC
46. RB Andre Brown NC State
77. DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond (I'm hopeful for Cody Brown here)
112. S David Bruton Notre Dame
122. S Chris Clemons Clemson
152. OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St
188. OG Anthony Parker Tennessee
223. CB Don Carey Norfolk State

OK, let's phone that order in and just kick back. The work is done! That would be one heck of a draft IMO.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

My super duper deepity deep dark horse is Tyler Roehl from North Dakota State. He's a FB/HB/RB hybrid. I call him a shorter Brian Leonard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GNk8EDKFCw&NR=1

263 yards vs. Minnesota

I'll see your 30 reps and raise you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k7cGNeMHQA

[bckey]

OK. I'll go all in!