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Old 04-05-2009, 08:09 PM
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Wow, that's work.

I guess I'll start with the obvious,

I don't see us drafting two safeties in the first three rounds.

I also don't see P.Harvin lasting until the 40th, he was the most dynamic player in the NCAA last year,
and lastly I don't see Shonn Greene anywhere, IMO he's a top 5 RB. Other than that, great job, I like the late run on WR's and the early run on OT's.
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:29 PM
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Wow, that's work.

I guess I'll start with the obvious,

I don't see us drafting two safeties in the first three rounds.
I agree I don't see them drafting two safeties, but if they took these two guys, IMO, they will be set for years with two guys that no one will want to go over the middle against, and both are considered to studs in run game. Oh BTW they both have better cover skills then any safety we have had.

About the only pair of safeties I could compare them to is Taylor and Landry.
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:45 PM
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Roy, 1st off excellent effort. A very realistic straight draft.

Where is Eric Woods? No way he falls to the 4th, or do you think Mayock, you and I are the only ones who like him? Isn't clearly ahead of Caldwell?

Also I hope you are wrong on Barwin going #11, I was thinking the other day, What if my desire for Matthews is colored, who else has his type skills but later in the draft? My answer was Barwin. Then I wondered what about him as 1st rounder? I was not ready to listen to the people tell me he is not 1st rounder, like they did about Raji, and Donald Brown. But a big case can be made for him. Even as SAM in the 4-3.

Along those lines I do not see Sidbury lasting to the late 2nd.

Lastly do you really think Freeman can be an ILB? That is different.
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Old 04-05-2009, 09:50 PM
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Where is Eric Woods? No way he falls to the 4th, or do you think Mayock, you and I are the only ones who like him? Isn't clearly ahead of Caldwell?

Also I hope you are wrong on Barwin going #11,I wondered what about him as 1st rounder? But a big case can be made for him. Even as SAM in the 4-3.

Along those lines I do not see Sidbury lasting to the late 2nd.

Lastly do you really think Freeman can be an ILB? That is different.
Aww crap! That's why I post these things here so you guys can catch where I messed up. I originally placed Eric Woods with the Bengals, but then realized that Mack was still on the board and put him there. However, I forgot that Woods was then still eligible to be drafted. Therefore, if I were to try to put him in the mock now, it would probably be somewhere between #50 - #60 since those teams could use an interior OL like Woods.

Yeah, Buffalo was the team that I was looking to trade down, but decided to just have my mock without trades. Then I realized that I was dealing with Buffalo who don't give a rat's ass about what any draftnik thinks. They need a pass-rusher and they need a TE, why not get both? If I were to trade down and still hope to fill a "need" there are three guys in the first round (I think) that I'd look for. Matthews, Barwin, and Maybin. Buffalo decided to draft McCargo and Whitner when everyone else was saying WTF?

Sidbury has really gotten no respect in my estimation. He has telephone poles for arms and reminds me of a taller version of Elvis Dumervil. I've seen him as a 4th rounder, but with so many teams wanting to rush the passer, it's hard to dismiss his 40 and his 10. He played at Richmond, but people seem to forget that DeMarcus Ware played for Troy, so forget about level of competition. Realistically, I could see GB and Dom Capers falling in love with the kid and drafting him #41, but I had them jumping on Maybin in the 1st round. Could you imagine drafting Maybin and Sidbury for a 3/4?

I had Freeman going to a 3/4 team. He has decent size and pretty good athleticism. Basically, he allows Ray Lewis to do his thing and cleans up. That's what Bart Scott did. Everyone seems to think that you only put robots in the middle of a 3/4 like Junior Seau or Teddy Bruschi to hide their limitations. I would imagine that putting a guy with some speed in the middle of the 3/4 wouldn't be a bad thing.
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Old 04-05-2009, 09:34 PM
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About the only pair of safeties I could compare them to is Taylor and Landry.
That's what I call helping out the back end.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:35 AM
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Oh BTW they both have better cover skills then any safety we have had.
You really think Patrick Chung has better coverage skills than Eugene Wilson?
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:21 PM
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You really think Patrick Chung has better coverage skills than Eugene Wilson?
OK you got me with that one, but Chung's overall game is much better at this point.
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Old 04-05-2009, 09:33 PM
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I don't see us drafting two safeties in the first three rounds.

I also don't see P.Harvin lasting until the 40th, he was the most dynamic player in the NCAA last year,
and lastly I don't see Shonn Greene anywhere, IMO he's a top 5 RB. Other than that, great job, I like the late run on WR's and the early run on OT's.
Yeah, the first one was to fit a need and the second one was simply best player available in Chip Vaughn. I actually have Vaughn rated higher than Chung on my personal draft board.

Harvin lasted a while because I was looking at WRs who actually play Split End and have a history of running routes. Percy is an athlete, but not a polished WR. Like I said at the beginning, I think WRs are going to be late picks because it takes too much time before they start making an impact. Also, there is more need at other positions. It may be a while before we see a player like Ted Ginn picked in the 1st round.

Shonn Greene's absence was a mistake. I simply thought that he was off the board, and obviously he was not. After going through three rounds, I sorted by name and position to make sure I didn't have one guy being picked twice. If I were to try to slip him in somewhere, it would probably be at #76 instead of Javon Ringer. My mistake.
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