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10-02-2009, 12:50 AM
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Front Office/HC/OC/DC who do you want?
For the exercise of it. This is if things continue on the current path.
GM - Floyd Reese - currently with the Pats HC - Mike Tice Asst HC Jags Asst HC offense - Andy Heck Currently with Jags OL OC - Kyle Shanahan Our current passing game with more of a power run added by Tice/Heck DC - Bob Sutten Currently with the Jets as Asst HC LBs. He has 4-3 and 3-4 background It just a thought. Give your reasons for your choices.
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10-02-2009, 08:27 AM
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Come on guy....its week 4 of 17.
I for one am not ready to throw in the towel on these guys yet. It has been said over and over, but we are a couple of bonehead plays from easily being 2-1 (Jets was the exception, and TN should have been waaay less dramatic).
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10-02-2009, 09:20 AM
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Mike Tice? Seriously? Gosh no. He is a meathead.
Kyle is as good as gone. If Mike gets a gig (which he will) then he will go work for his dad. Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher and Mike Holmgren will be vying for the two open big jobs (Dallas and Washington). I'll take Gary Kubiak and the hope that this team turns it around.
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10-02-2009, 10:21 AM
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I'm OK with Kubiak if he'd just hire a top-notch DC and build with that foundation. If John Fox, Marvin Lewis or Dick Jauron get fired, I'd look at one of those guys as DC. Of course, this would have to be a forced move by McNair because, whether true or not, it doesn't appear that Kubiak wants someone in that role that is a threat to his security. I hope that's not the case because it would be pretty foolish considering you don't have much security if your team sucks. I just can't think of any other reason why he keeps hiring inexperienced DCs when it's been a glaring weakness since he's been here. And other than Mike Sherman, he's done the same thing with OCs...
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10-02-2009, 10:34 AM
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I am not sure that Gary is threatened by other coaches. He hired Sherm, Rhodes, Gibbs sr. With that being said, if the defense sucks all year, then he may be "nudged" to make a change in the DC. If they improve, then I think Frank gets a reprive.
I do agree that if things are not improved on the D, then I would not mind seeing any of the individuals you mention, or Wade Phillips.
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10-02-2009, 12:16 PM
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Comparing Kubiak to Fisher is inaccurate due to the Oilers road show years with no home park, he held the Oilers together when they played in Memphis in front of nobody. Kubiak has a full stands of rabid fans, no comparison. As for Tice, he is a teacher, I like teachers, he is from the Sid Gillman coaching tree, as is Kubiak. He would know our playbooks language. Both pluses in my book. I have another name for HC that might garner some glances Jim Harbaugh, he is doing a solid job at Stanford, he was the QB coach of the Raiders when they went to the Super Bowl and they where running the WCO, they where a scoring machine. If the elder Shanahan gets hired and wants the younger let him go. I did not mention it earlier, but you must keep Matthews in some position. IMO we are not going to hire Shanahan, I don't want him anyway. Cowher is not coming to Houston, Billick the offensive genius has had the worse offenses in the league. His DCs and Ray Lewis made him look successful. I don't see any huge names coming to coach in Houston until we get better.
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10-02-2009, 02:40 PM
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2001 MIN 0 - 1 2002 MIN 6 - 10 2003 MIN 9 - 7 2004 MIN 8 - 8 2005 MIN 9 - 7 Operating under "you are what your record says you are", that's kind of what we have now, isn't it? Kubes has transformed the offense into one of the league's best. While the defense has been stagnant during his tenure, I've seen the effort being made to improve it and understand why it was assembled the way it was. When some of the draft picks and FA's don't work out, then you get the limboland like we have now. Still, despite what the stats say, this year's defense has some positive things going on that I haven't seen in years past.... Fisher did an admirable job of holding the Oilers-->Tennessee Oilers-->Titans together during his early years. Conversely, had he had a stadium full of rabid fans in a stable organization, he might not have been granted such a long leash and ended up in the scrap heap of mediocre coaches. We'll just never know. As far as asst. coaches go, the Texans have on paper some of the league's best - Gibbs, Rhodes, Kollar... Some impressive resumes, there.... The thing about Kubes is that he's not threatened by any of these guys - he doesn't let his ego get in the way of the ultimate goal of making the team better... For every "1st timer", there's a veteran coach nearby..
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10-02-2009, 02:19 PM
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10-03-2009, 11:38 AM
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10-03-2009, 01:19 PM
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GM - Howie Roseman Currently VP player personnel http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ea...seman_h_1.html HC - Marty Mornhinweg Currently Assistent HC/Offensive OC http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ea...nhinweg_1.html OC - John Matsko Currently Ravens OL coach http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl...hn_Matsko.aspx DC - Dennis Thurman Currently Jets Defensive Backs coach http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coac...dennis-thurman This combo would create an attacking WCO that would utilize Slaton like Westbrook and create confusion and turnovers on defense. What's not to like?
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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10-03-2009, 03:36 PM
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OC - Tom Clements Currently Packers QB coach http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/clements_tom/ Before coming to Green Bay, Clements spent two seasons (2004-05) as offensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills. In 2004, the Bills' offense increased its points output by 152 and became only the ninth team in NFL history to score more than 30 points in six straight games. In addition, Buffalo reduced its number of sacks allowed from 51 to 38, fewest by a Bills team since 1999. On an individual level, Clements' offense was highlighted by RB Willis McGahee, who became the fifth running back in Bills history to register back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons, covering each year of Clements' tenure. In addition, quarterback Kelly Holcomb set a club record in 2005 with a 67.39 completion percentage, surpassing Jim Kelly's 1991 mark, 64.14 percent.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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10-04-2009, 05:46 PM
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10-11-2009, 06:57 PM
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I'm back to we need new leadership. Kubiak and his scheme is .500 ball.
I'm done with him, and you cannot sell me a Kubiak coached team next season.
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10-11-2009, 07:00 PM
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As long as we can get some Philly folks, I'd be happy. Perhaps we would get some bigger O-Linemen and pass the ball and be happy. Maybe the D would actually create some pressure on the QB.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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10-11-2009, 07:33 PM
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10-12-2009, 06:08 PM
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10-12-2009, 06:40 PM
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Darrel Bevell enters his 4th season as Offensive Coordinator of the Vikings in 2009. When Brad Childress began building his Minnesota Vikings coaching staff he had certain qualities in mind for the men who would lead the team into the future. Childress wanted coaches who were good teachers, hard workers and dedicated to the task. Childress had seen all of those qualities years earlier in a gritty QB who led his 1993 Wisconsin Badger squad to the school’s 1st Big Ten title and Rose Bowl berth in 31 years. http://www.neworleanssaints.com/Team...hael%20Jr.aspx Promoted to offensive coordinator for 2009 after working with the quarterbacks for the last three seasons, Pete Carmichael has been a key contributor in the planning and preparation of the Saints’ record-setting passing attack since 2006.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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