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Old 03-15-2009, 02:36 AM
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I admit I stole this list from a post on TT.com. JWarren14 posted this list from Scouts inc.

William Moore (S, Mizzou)
Nic Harris (S/LB, Oklahoma)
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama)
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
Malcolm Jenkins (CB, Ohio State)
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois)
Keenan Lewis (CB, Oregon State)
Coye Francies (CB, San Jose States)
Robert Ayers (DE, Tennessee)
Connor Barwin (DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati)
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State)
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut)
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss)
Clay Matthews (LB, USC)
Larry English (LB/DE UNI)
Jason Watkins (OL, Florida)
Jaimie Thomas (OL, Maryland)
Quan Cosby (WR, Texas)
Louis Murphy (WR, Florida)
Juaquin Iglesias (WR, Oklahoma)
Derrick Williams (WR, Penn State)
Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou)
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina)

Also rumored to have visited the Texans at the Combine where
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State


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Old 03-15-2009, 09:01 AM
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Are these vists at the combine or scheduled personal vists?
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Old 03-15-2009, 12:41 PM
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Are these vists at the combine or scheduled personal vists?
The post only said they had been contacted by the Texans. Some of these are going to be smoke screens, and some might be legit interest on the Texans part.

I do not subscribe to Scout's Inc, so someone here who does might be able to answer popanot's question better. Help please?
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:05 PM
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I doubt this list is all inclusive, but nonetheless, I'm surprised Cushing isn't on it. Smoke screen or no interest??? Hmmm....
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:29 PM
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Good stuff PK ! But it leaves a lot to the imagination, but that 's part of the fun I guess, trying to speculate what this might mean ? For example, quckly browsing the list I count more WRs than any other position ? I dunno what that's suppose to mean since I tend to think of it as our strongest position on either side of the ball ?
Kinda along these same lines, I've yet to see the Texans mentioned as being present at any of the Pro-Days ?
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Old 03-15-2009, 02:38 PM
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Good stuff PK ! But it leaves a lot to the imagination, but that 's part of the fun I guess, trying to speculate what this might mean ? For example, quckly browsing the list I count more WRs than any other position ? I dunno what that's suppose to mean since I tend to think of it as our strongest position on either side of the ball ?
Kinda along these same lines, I've yet to see the Texans mentioned as being present at any of the Pro-Days ?

WR/PR could mean Jacoby Jones is on a short rope.
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Old 03-15-2009, 03:24 PM
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I doubt this list is all inclusive, but nonetheless, I'm surprised Cushing isn't on it. Smoke screen or no interest??? Hmmm....
This regime of Smith and Kubiak play it much closer to the vest than Charlie ever did.

Charlie loved to leak stuff to McClain and Little Dickie off the record. LD now has to work for a story and instead chooses to preach his brand of sanctimonious crapola.
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Old 03-15-2009, 07:59 PM
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The post only said they had been contacted by the Texans. Some of these are going to be smoke screens, and some might be legit interest on the Texans part.

I do not subscribe to Scout's Inc, so someone here who does might be able to answer popanot's question better. Help please?
Scouts Inc. is espn's scouting division. Scout.com is someone else, sorry no help here
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:13 PM
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On that list, I see:

William Moore (S, Mizzou): Low first high second round safety, maybe a target with the 2nd pick, but I don't think first.
Nic Harris (S/LB, Oklahoma): Weakside LB, maybe a target in the later rounds, 5?
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama): 2nd round safety
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest): 4th rounder safety?
Malcolm Jenkins (CB, Ohio State): 1st round CB maybe a safety for us
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois): 1st round CB, again maybe being looked at as a safety, or he could be looked at as a corner, maybe more so than Jenkins
Keenan Lewis (CB, Oregon State):Corner depth possible safety transition player, 5th round
Coye Francies (CB, San Jose States): Corner Depth, maybe 4th rounder
Robert Ayers (DE, Tennessee): Late first, or second round DE
Connor Barwin (DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati): 2nd round versatility prospect
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State): First round DE
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut): Second round DE, OLB, pass rush specalist
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss): MLB or WLB 3rd rounder
Clay Matthews (LB, USC): First round OLB with pass rush skills
Larry English (LB/DE UNI): Late first or second round pass rush specalist or OLB
Jason Watkins (OL, Florida): 5th or 6th round swing tackle
Jaimie Thomas (OL, Maryland): 7th round guard
Quan Cosby (WR, Texas): 4th round WR/KR
Louis Murphy (WR, Florida): 3rd round WR
Juaquin Iglesias (WR, Oklahoma): 3rd round WR
Derrick Williams (WR, Penn State): 2nd or 3rd round WR
Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou): 1st round WR
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina): 2nd round TE

Also rumored to have visited the Texans at the Combine where
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State
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Old 03-15-2009, 10:12 PM
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I admit I stole this list

William Moore (S, Mizzou)
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama)
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois)
Robert Ayers (DE, Tennessee)
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State)
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut)
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss)
Clay Matthews (LB, USC)

Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou)
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina)

Also rumored to have visited the Texans at the Combine where
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State


If you can add to this please do.
Just happy to see so many of My Guys on the list. Probably just smoke screens.
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Old 03-16-2009, 10:57 AM
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Just happy to see so many of My Guys on the list. Probably just smoke screens.
I don't know, those are all interesting. Even Jared Cook could be picked if we don't keep OD. Maclin if he falls to 15, which I doubt, would be an exceptional value.
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Old 03-16-2009, 04:58 PM
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Interesting that the only two interior OL players are very late round choices and NO DT's are present on the list! That would indicate Gibbs is happy with what we have or there is a real defensive need, but they like Okam, Robinson, and Okoye as is. Curious!
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:24 PM
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I don't know, those are all interesting. Even Jared Cook could be picked if we don't keep OD. Maclin if he falls to 15, which I doubt, would be an exceptional value.
I think even if he falls the Texans need to just say no to fast wrs that can burn but just aren't that good at actually catching the ball. They already have one of them on the team.
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:29 PM
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I think even if he falls the Texans need to just say no to fast wrs that can burn but just aren't that good at actually catching the ball. They already have one of them on the team.
And he can only do that when he isnt doing the electric slide.
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Old 03-17-2009, 08:10 PM
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I think even if he falls the Texans need to just say no to fast wrs that can burn but just aren't that good at actually catching the ball. They already have one of them on the team.
Are you talking about JMac or DHB? Jeremy Maclin is pretty good at actually catching the ball.
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Old 03-17-2009, 10:32 PM
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Are you talking about JMac or DHB? Jeremy Maclin is pretty good at actually catching the ball.
That would be Maclin another JJ waiting to happen in my humble opinion.
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:53 PM
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Probably just smoke screens.
Unless I'm mistaken, teams (outside of their division or conference) sometimes get into small groups or pairs and pool interview notes in part because it is too hard to get to everyone. As such, reading too much into these reports of visits is a bit of a fool's errand imo. For all we know, the Texans are talking to a bunch of WRs for the Cowboys or Bucs while taking info from the same on LBs and safeties.

Anyone remember that story of when the Broncos drafted Cutler? (Put recent news aside for a moment.) Cutler never once talked to the team before the draft... and that was their first round pick at quarterback.
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:23 AM
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Unless I'm mistaken, teams (outside of their division or conference) sometimes get into small groups or pairs and pool interview notes in part because it is too hard to get to everyone. As such, reading too much into these reports of visits is a bit of a fool's errand imo. For all we know, the Texans are talking to a bunch of WRs for the Cowboys or Bucs while taking info from the same on LBs and safeties.

Anyone remember that story of when the Broncos drafted Cutler? (Put recent news aside for a moment.) Cutler never once talked to the team before the draft... and that was their first round pick at quarterback.
Yeah they were shocked that he fell I think.
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:28 AM
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Maybe that was their mistake. Maybe they SHOULD have talked to him!
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:29 PM
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Maybe that was their mistake. Maybe they SHOULD have talked to him!
Their scouts had talked to him on campus during the college season. Shanahan loved the report on the kid and his combine work out at the combine made Shanahan salivate. He did not let any one know his desire, but Shanahan had Cutler targeted prior to draft day. He knew he was going to trade up for the kid, only he did not let any one else know that.

If you read about Shanahan and Gruden, they are good friend and they both tend to like the same players. IMO Shanahan was worried Gruden would try to leapfrog him to get Cutler had he been aware of the interest. Plus Shanahan is known for keeping his cards close to the vest.

His actions where pretty much in line with his character.
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