[Salaam, Demps Cut] Preparing for the Superbowl (more great moves by Smithiak!)

dalemurphy · #1 02-25-2009, 03:06 PM

Texans have cut WDemps and Ephraim Salaam today. So, that's another $3.0 million cap savings. I'm considering starting a petition to bring back Brandon Frye. Regardless, apparently our leaders have begun looking at game film instead of resume's. Rashod Butler is such a huge upgrade over Salaam as the swing that I'm almost hoping Winston gets injured. Now, Studdard is the only remaining obstacle to complete sanity for this organization. I guess they can wait until August to cut him though.

Since the organization is now apparently listening to my advice and acting on it, the following is the list of FAs they will be bidding on due to my insistance:

Sean Jones
Derrick Ward
Jake Groves
Bryant McFadden
Antonio Smith

book it, Dano!

Mike · #2 02-25-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dalemurphy

Texans have cut WDemps and [B] Rashod Butler is such a huge upgrade over Salaam as the swing that I'm almost hoping Winston gets injured.
book it, Dano!

Book that as the dumbest quote ever uttered on this board. Winston is our best player on the OL.

barrett · #3 02-25-2009, 09:07 PM

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Book that as the dumbest quote ever uttered on this board. Winston is our best player on the OL.

what are you talking about. Didn't you read the rest of the post? Dalemurphy says it himself. He knows more about football than everyone else in the world combined. Who are you to question his football omnipotence.

dalemurphy · #4 02-25-2009, 11:09 PM

Are you people really unable to detect humor? Give me a break!

Nconroe · #5 02-25-2009, 11:28 PM

I enjoy the humor , and almost nothing upsets me anymore. I just want my 401k to come back within 10 years.

Arky · #6 02-25-2009, 11:38 PM

Eh, there's other Texan forums out there where the members take themselves waaaayyyy too seriously... This one is not too bad for the most part...

barrett · #7 02-26-2009, 12:18 AM

so you go over the top and you are humorous...someone else does it and you assume we're serious?

I mean, you couldn't have thought you'd make a post about how great you are and we'd all leave it alone.

jppaul · #8 02-26-2009, 12:35 AM

Yeah, this is what we all come to this site for... Look at it this way could be worse could be dead time in early summer.

bckey · #9 02-26-2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Arky

Eh, there's other Texan forums out there where the members take themselves waaaayyyy too seriously... This one is not too bad for the most part...

Like the one I see dalemurphy post on constantly.

nunusguy · #10 02-26-2009, 06:52 AM

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Are you people really unable to detect humor? Give me a break!

It's OK, his way of having fun. But I'm still trying to get the relevance of the handle ? I dunno, but maybe somebody should tell Dale this is a football website and not baseball ?

popanot · #11 02-26-2009, 07:47 AM

Was there football discussed in this thread? I must have missed it...

papabear · #12 02-26-2009, 08:27 AM

my only problem with this is I would still like to have a veteran like Salaam there to mentor Brown. I think Brown will be fine but having someone who has been around as long as Salaam can be a big benefit to a guy like Brown.

BigBull · #13 02-26-2009, 08:39 AM

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my only problem with this is I would still like to have a veteran like Salaam there to mentor Brown. I think Brown will be fine but having someone who has been around as long as Salaam can be a big benefit to a guy like Brown.

I tend to agree with you in that I think you need a guy like Salaam that can even start in a pinch. Just not convinced that any of our young backups are good enough to start even in a pinch.

papabear · #14 02-26-2009, 08:42 AM

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I tend to agree with you in that I think you need a guy like Salaam that can even start in a pinch. Just not convinced that any of our young backups are good enough to start even in a pinch.

I'm OK if Butler has to start a game here or there. I would like for Brown to have that mentor around though. Remember, he went to college as a TE and has limited experience as a LT. Gibbs is there, which is great, but sometimes it's easier to learn from another player.

barrett · #15 02-26-2009, 08:49 AM

but when there is a personality as big as ephraim, it makes it hard for a guy like Brown to truly come into his own.

dalemurphy · #16 02-26-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by papabear

I'm OK if Butler has to start a game here or there. I would like for Brown to have that mentor around though. Remember, he went to college as a TE and has limited experience as a LT. Gibbs is there, which is great, but sometimes it's easier to learn from another player.

Winston is there and so is Pitts. All Ephraim could do his help him deliver a punchline and show him how to fall on his butt while pass blocking. I don't think either of those skills are important for Brown to learn.

papabear · #17 02-26-2009, 10:17 AM

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Winston is there and so is Pitts. All Ephraim could do his help him deliver a punchline and show him how to fall on his butt while pass blocking. I don't think either of those skills are important for Brown to learn.

Oh please, just because you don't like Salaam doesn't mean he doesn't have something to offer. Pitts isn't a T. Winston doesn't have near the experience that Salaam did. Salaam has been in the league for 11 years at the most important/difficult position on the line, and a starter for most of it. You don't spend that much time at the position and not learn a few tricks of the trade. I don't know how much he helped coached Brown (or the other guys) but I've always heard positive things about Salaam as a teammate so I would assume he was helpful to the younger lineman.

I don't have any problem with them letting him go. I think we have adequate back up plans, but the veteran presence is more important off the field than on it. I'm glad Salaam was here the last three years.

dalemurphy · #18 02-26-2009, 11:10 AM

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Oh please, just because you don't like Salaam doesn't mean he doesn't have something to offer. Pitts isn't a T. Winston doesn't have near the experience that Salaam did. Salaam has been in the league for 11 years at the most important/difficult position on the line, and a starter for most of it. You don't spend that much time at the position and not learn a few tricks of the trade. I don't know how much he helped coached Brown (or the other guys) but I've always heard positive things about Salaam as a teammate so I would assume he was helpful to the younger lineman.

I don't have any problem with them letting him go. I think we have adequate back up plans, but the veteran presence is more important off the field than on it. I'm glad Salaam was here the last three years.

Just because the guy is likeable doesn't mean we can't be honest about the quality of football he played here. He was barely servicable for most of the time. I'm glad he was here to, but he shouldn't have been playing last season. Butler and Frye were both much better tackles than he was at that point in his career. Perhaps they wanted him there to tutor Brown. Fine, but he still was a poor LT at that point. Nothing wrong with being happy that the team is making good personnel decisions. That's all this thread was about. Teams don't win playoff games with tackles playing at the level Salaam has played the past 2 seasons.

barrett · #19 02-26-2009, 11:23 AM

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Just because the guy is likeable doesn't mean we can't be honest about the quality of football he played here. He was barely servicable for most of the time. I'm glad he was here to, but he shouldn't have been playing last season. Butler and Frye were both much better tackles than he was at that point in his career. Perhaps they wanted him there to tutor Brown. Fine, but he still was a poor LT at that point. Nothing wrong with being happy that the team is making good personnel decisions. That's all this thread was about. Teams don't win playoff games with tackles playing at the level Salaam has played the past 2 seasons.

Plenty of teams win playoff games with a backup the level of Salaam, and that's what he was last year.

Either way I face a quandary here, Alex Gibbs' o-line knowledge vs. Dalemurphy's football omnipotence. Kind of like ditka vs. a hurricane. Too close to call. I guess I just have to defer to your brilliance again.

dalemurphy · #20 02-26-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by barrett

Plenty of teams win playoff games with a backup the level of Salaam, and that's what he was last year.

Either way I face a quandary here, Alex Gibbs' o-line knowledge vs. Dalemurphy's football omnipotence. Kind of like ditka vs. a hurricane. Too close to call. I guess I just have to defer to your brilliance again.

especially since apparently Gibbs feels the same way I do. They cut him before camp because he's already convinced Butler is the better player- even though there hasn't even been as much as a team meeting since the season ended. Interesting, Salaam was signed to a tiny deal through the season and Butler is a RFA, whom they will now have to tender for more money than they were paying Salaam, and yet the job has been handed to Butler without even one off-season workout. Looks like the coaches saw the same things I did last year.