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Old 01-27-2009, 04:03 PM
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Has a new 7 rounder, it includes the declared Junior. I wanted to a different idea through a list and see what I can get, but could not find any list that seemed to updated from the all star games. Then I came across this one.

They have us taking:
15 Jeremy Maclin** WR 6'0" 198 Missouri
46 Paul Kruger** DE 6'5" 265 Utah
77 Nic Harris S 6'3" 224 Oklahoma
108 Brandon Underwood CB 6'1" 189 Cincinnati
144 Rhett Bomar QB 6'2" 216 Sam Houston State
175 Jonathan Casillas OLB 6'1" 226 Wisconsin
206 George Hypolite DT 6'1" 285 Colorado

Not a bad mock, it's not the usually William Moore at 15 mock, that Walters is to busy to update properly.

Back to my plan that I wanted to see. At the Senior Bowl game, Rey Rey and Cushing really looked good. Game changing good. But I do not want to move Ryans, at least not yet, and Rey Rey is a middle only guy. I want to see if I can upgrade my back 7. I have thought since Sharper, Wong days we have been way below average in the overall LB group. Our LBs, IMO, do not causes other teams any nightmares.

So in my cherry pick version chasing a stronger back 7 on defense
I started with a trade down from 15 to get 21, 85, 149.

I came up with the next post:
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Old 01-27-2009, 04:32 PM
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21 Brian Cushing OLB 6'4" 240 USC
46 Patrick Chung SS 5'11" 205 Oregon
77 Zack Follett OLB 6'2" 237 California
85 Louis Delmas FS 6'0" 196 Western Michigan
108 Rashad Jennings RB 6'1" 232 Liberty
144 Lawrence Sidbury Jr. DE 6'3" 265 Richmond
149 Mitch King DT 6'2" 278 Iowa
175 Kory Sheets RB 6'0" 205 Purdue
206 Stephan McGee QB Texas A&M

Cushing, Ryans, Follett with Adibi,Diles and Bentley. This give me a group of lB that can be moved around to cover for missed games. Cushing and Follett along with Ryans would give us our most athletic group yet.

Chung and Delmas give you 2 young safeties that will be stars. Chung can cover better than most think and he will hit someone.

Jenning and Sheets added to Slaton gives us 3 strong runners and allows us to spread the attempts and cover for missed games.

Sidbury and King are situational players that add fire and spunk to the defense and ST.

Stephen McGee showed me a better arm and leadership skill at the Shrine game. He can be a project type, plus he as one year with our terminology

Have at theirs or mine.;
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:36 PM
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Lets try your version, my cherry pick:

21 Brian Cushing OLB
46 Brandon Pettigrew TE
77 Cary Harris CB
85 Louis Delmas S
108 Myron Pryor DT
144 Pat White QB
149 Cedric Peerman RB
175 Lawrence Sibury DE
206 Graham Cano K/P
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Old 01-27-2009, 07:50 PM
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We would be morons not to pick up Pettigrew at that slot, I think he only solidified himself as a top 20 pick at the senior bowl, especially for a team that could use a TE as more of a blocker/receiver than as a receiver first TE. 50 is WAY too low for that guy, otherwise; I like both the original mock and the cherry picks, this is shaping up to be a good draft for us.
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:13 PM
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Cherry picking from a value standpoint with trade, this is what I have.

21 Brian Cushing OLB 6'4" 240 USC
46 Brandon Pettigrew TE 6'6" 260 Oklahoma State
77 Ron Brace DT 6'3" 326 Boston College
85 Louis Delmas S 6'0" 196 Western Michigan
108 Glen Coffee* RB 6'1" 200 Alabama
144 Tyronne Green OG 6'2" 309 Auburn
149 Mohamed Massaquoi WR 6'2" 200 Georgia
175 Mitch King DE 6'2" 278 Iowa
206 Gartrell Johnson RB 6'0" 225 Colorado State

w/ no trade

15 B.J. Raji DT 6'1" 325 Boston College
46 Brandon Pettigrew TE 6'6" 260 Oklahoma State
77 Louis Delmas S 6'0" 196 Western Michigan
108 Glen Coffee* RB 6'1" 200 Alabama
144 Tyronne Green OG 6'2" 309 Auburn
175 Mitch King DE 6'2" 278 Iowa
206 Gartrell Johnson RB 6'0" 225 Colorado State

I noticed they did not have Robert Ayers listed, oversight I guess, I almost took him in round 2 since that is where he will most likely be taken. I chose Pettigrew instead because he was great value, possible top 15 pick, and he can help with our red zone scoring.
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:13 PM
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Lets try your version, my cherry pick:

21 Brian Cushing OLB
46 Brandon Pettigrew TE
77 Cary Harris CB
85 Louis Delmas S
108 Myron Pryor DT
144 Pat White QB
149 Cedric Peerman RB
175 Lawrence Sibury DE
206 Graham Cano K/P
I like Pettigrew, but he is more of a blocker than a pass catcher. I wanted a game changer at 46. BTW how many TDs did Pettigrew catch this season? I did think about converting him to OLT. And IMO Chung can be our Atwater.

Nothing wrong with taking another CB at 77, but I went under the assumption that we have Dunta Bennett Reeves and Molden, and I want to see if Gibbs can coach them up. I like Follett and his speed, plus he always seems to be playing in the backfield. And Adibi seemed to always be hurt.

I think if go into next year with only 2 RBs then we will be in trouble. Look at Dallas last year, what if they pass on Choice? Now that said, Rashad Jennings looks like the RB I have wanted the Texans to draft since day 1.

I like Pat White alot, and if he is drafted by someone who is creative I can see him being a huge difference maker. I do not see Kubiak as that coach. Plus if I take White, I do not have room for McGee, much less the coaching time for two projects.

Kory Sheets, Andre Brown, Cedrick Peerman, Tyrell Sutton, Gartrell Johnson, Herb Donaldson. I like a lot of different RBs and anyone of them could be a solid pickup.

Lastly i took Sidbury a lot earlier than the mock, why? I think he is going earlier than when they have him going.

I like your effort also, especially the attempts to save roster spots.

Lastly, I attempted to build a super strong Lb and safety team. Until we have those guys in place this team will always be a .500 team.
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:20 PM
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w/ no trade

15 B.J. Raji DT 6'1" 325 Boston College
46 Brandon Pettigrew TE 6'6" 260 Oklahoma State
77 Louis Delmas S 6'0" 196 Western Michigan
108 Glen Coffee* RB 6'1" 200 Alabama
144 Tyronne Green OG 6'2" 309 Auburn
175 Mitch King DE 6'2" 278 Iowa
206 Gartrell Johnson RB 6'0" 225 Colorado State

I noticed they did not have Robert Ayers listed, oversight I guess, I almost took him in round 2 since that is where he will most likely be taken. I chose Pettigrew instead because he was great value, possible top 15 pick, and he can help with our red zone scoring.

Had you taken Ayers at 46 then you would have a great draft. I missed the nonlisting of Ayers.
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:44 PM
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Had you taken Ayers at 46 then you would have a great draft. I missed the nonlisting of Ayers.
Well I had him there but "took" Pettigrew for the reasons mentioned above. It's moot since he will be gone by that point and I really would not expect the Texans to draft him after having most likely re-signed Owen Daniels and bringing back Dreesen; so it should have been Ayers.l
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:34 PM
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Btw, if the Cowboys hadn't drafted Choice, they still wouldn't have made the playoffs, so who cares? Had to take a shot, sorry.
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Old 01-27-2009, 10:05 PM
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w/ no trade

15 B.J. Raji DT 6'1" 325 Boston College
46 Brandon Pettigrew TE 6'6" 260 Oklahoma State
77 Louis Delmas S 6'0" 196 Western Michigan
108 Glen Coffee* RB 6'1" 200 Alabama
144 Tyronne Green OG 6'2" 309 Auburn
175 Mitch King DE 6'2" 278 Iowa
206 Gartrell Johnson RB 6'0" 225 Colorado State

I noticed they did not have Robert Ayers listed, oversight I guess, I almost took him in round 2 since that is where he will most likely be taken.
I did not cherry pick, just simply went with My Guys and this is what I walked away with.

15. WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri 6' 1" 200 4.38
46. DE Robert Ayers Tennessee 6' 3" 273 4.76
77. OC Eric Wood Louisville 6' 4" 304 5.16
108. LB Tyrone McKenzie South Florida 6' 2" 235 4.64
144. LB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia 6' 1" 236 4.60
175. QB John Parker Wilson Alabama 6' 2" 215 4.82
206. TE Bear Pascoe Fresno St 6' 5" 257 4.86

So, Maclin is just too good to pass up in my opinion. Ayers allowed me to not have to have a "pass-rushing" SAM. Eric Wood held up against Raji, so he should help vs. the likes of Albert Hayneworth and the like. Tyrone is my WILL and Ellerbe will be the SAM to help against the run. JPW is this year's JDB that I hoped for last year. Bear Pascoe, I'll predict is just as good as Pettigrew, but for some reason his name isn't as highly regarded. I passed on WR Mike Thomas because I had Maclin and I passed on Corvey Irvin in order to get Pascoe. I imagine I'd have to go after Cedric Peerman as my RB.
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Rp, as we have seen in the past, a lot of these guys will be gone by the timewhen you would have taken them in your evaluation because, after the Combine some Scouts & GMs will begin their love-ins with certain individuals, and they will all be gone. But it is nice to dream anyway.
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Didn't Brian Cushing have a problem in college with being hurt all the time, and never seeing the field?
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Didn't Brian Cushing have a problem in college with being hurt all the time, and never seeing the field?
Yes he has been hurt a lot and there is also the steroid rumour that is out there.
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:40 PM
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I like Pettigrew, but he is more of a blocker than a pass catcher. I wanted a game changer at 46. BTW how many TDs did Pettigrew catch this season? I did think about converting him to OLT. And IMO Chung can be our Atwater.

Nothing wrong with taking another CB at 77, but I went under the assumption that we have Dunta Bennett Reeves and Molden, and I want to see if Gibbs can coach them up. I like Follett and his speed, plus he always seems to be playing in the backfield. And Adibi seemed to always be hurt.

I think if go into next year with only 2 RBs then we will be in trouble. Look at Dallas last year, what if they pass on Choice? Now that said, Rashad Jennings looks like the RB I have wanted the Texans to draft since day 1.

I like Pat White alot, and if he is drafted by someone who is creative I can see him being a huge difference maker. I do not see Kubiak as that coach. Plus if I take White, I do not have room for McGee, much less the coaching time for two projects.

Kory Sheets, Andre Brown, Cedrick Peerman, Tyrell Sutton, Gartrell Johnson, Herb Donaldson. I like a lot of different RBs and anyone of them could be a solid pickup.

Lastly i took Sidbury a lot earlier than the mock, why? I think he is going earlier than when they have him going.

I like your effort also, especially the attempts to save roster spots.

Lastly, I attempted to build a super strong Lb and safety team. Until we have those guys in place this team will always be a .500 team.
I feel the same way about alot of the team needs that you did. I certainly understand taking Sidbury in teh 5th because he definitely is not going to be there in the seventh. I strictly went by what was available in the mock, not what will in reality likely be there.

As far as Pat White goes, I see Seneca Wallace in him, that nobody thought he was going to be able to play QB, but there he is. He could serve as a third QB and backup slot reciever, like Wallace did in Seattle. Plus, all the kid does is win, despite all the naysayers telling him that he should move to WR at the senior bowl he stayed his ground, and showed alot.

Pettigrew, in the second, comeon PK, that would be the steal of teh draft. He blocks and he catches. He has more speed than Daniel Graham and better hands and blocks almost as well, and you saw what Graham got paid, and what he can do for his team. TE is near the bottom of my list for needs for this team but the value is just too good.

BTW, I like every single one of your selections, I just like the players I selected more at the spot I selected them.
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