Official Texans vs. Chiefs Game Thread, 10/8/2017

[Arky]

The 2-2 Texans will host the 4-0 Kansas City Chiefs this Sunday night in a nationally televised game. The Texans are coming off a 57-14 home win vs. the Tennessee Titans and the Chiefs are coming off a 29-20 home win over the Washington Redskins on MNF. The Chief's defense has a good pass rush and they are 10th in pts allowed with 19.2/game. Though the Chiefs allow 274.2 passing yards/game (25th), they get stingy in the red zone. This may be another game where the Texans might be better served to go to the pass more than the run.......

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TV = NBC (channel 2 local), 7:30 pm, Sunday, 10/8/2017

Announcers = Al Michaels, Cris Collinsworth

The line = pickem to Chiefs -1

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Other Sunday viewing in the Houston area:

CBS (early) = Jacksonville @ Pittsburgh, Kevin Harlan, Rich Gannon

FOX (early) = Arizona @ Philadelphia, Chris Myers, Daryl Johnston

FOX (late) = Green Bay @ Dallas, Joe Buck, Troy Aikman

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Other Prime Time:

TNF = New England @ Tampa Bay (CBS/NFLN)

MNF = Minnesota @ Chicago (ESPN)

[HPF Bob]

Both teams have taken turns manhandling each other in recent contests. Texans will need to establish the run early and stop those screens and passes in the flat that Reid loves to pummel us with. We also need Hal to come up big against Kelce.

Would thoroughly enjoy it if somebody came up to Andy Reid and thanked him for taking "that kid from Texas Tech" in the draft instead of Watson.

[Arky]

Found these trends posted in another forum:

Chiefs 13-0 ATS when visiting a non-divisional opponent with a lower winning percentage.
Chiefs 8-0 SUATS L8 on the Road.

Chiefs playing in Houston for the 4th time in just over 2 years, going 3-1, losing last season 19-12 in Week 2.
Texans 0-16 SU and 1-15 ATS as a dog vs a team that has averaged more than 392 yards of offense per game season to date.
Texans 0-12 SU in franchise history as a dog vs a non-divisional opponent when they are off a win in which they had at least two more
minutes of possession time than their season-to-date average.
Texans 0-12 SU vs a non-divisional opponent when they are off a win in which they rushed for 150-plus yards.

SU = straight up
ATS = against the spread

Not good. About the only positive thing to say here is that the data wasn't assembled in the Deshaun Watson "era".....

[Arky]

Video: Teddy Covers breaks down Houston vs. Kansas City.... TRT = 5:11

Teddy's stats guy calls it a preview of the AFC championship game.... I'd like to see that...

[HPF Bob]

I distinctly remember home wins over both the Colts (during the Manning era) and the Patriots where I doubt we were favorites. Not sure this tout has his facts together.

[Arky]

I remember those games but who ya talking about? Which tout, which trend?

Even so, I'd be very reluctant to bet the house on KC........

[barrett]

Those are meaningless trends. I bet most of those go back to before O'Brien was here. Football plays such few games that every trend is either small sample size from a data perspective, or it has to go so far back to get a decent sample size that the data is meaningless. Or both.

I guarantee if Houston loses it won't have anything to do with whether Houston ran for over 150 yards last week.

Basically the giant amount of money bet on football leads to artificial data mining and 'trends' so you can have something to offer as a prognosticator.

[Arky]

I see the manic-depressive Jags won today. The Titans are falling down the rabbit hole. Indy beat the 49ers in OT. Astros lost.

The good news is John McClain picked KC to win tonights game so there's a chance......

Kickoff in a few.....

[Arky]

Texans kick off and the Chiefs bring it back to their 19. A Chief injured on the play.

Hunt goes for 9.

Hunt gets 1 and the 1st down.

Hunt for 1.

Flat pass to Kelce gets 2. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Pass to Robinson goes for 16 and the 1st down.

Hunt caught for a loss of 2.

Short pass to Wilson gets 6. 3rd and 6 coming up. Merci hurt on the play.

Pass to Kelce good for the 1st down. 10 yards.

Pass to Kelce broken up by Hal, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Hunt stopped in the backfield by McKinney for a loss of 4. 3rd and 14 coming up.

Pass to Conley good for the 1st down at the Texan 22.

Smith can't find a receiver and scrambles for 7.

Hunt loses 2. 3rd and 5 coming up.

Smith's pass is short of the receiver, inc. Watt injured on the play. Chiefs going for the FG.

Butker's 35-yarder is good.

Chiefs 3, Texans 0

6:53 left in the 1st qtr.

[Big Texas]

Well this is gonna have to be a shootout...

[Big Texas]

Bruh...jeff Allen was listed as 38 out of 38...Lol

[Arky]

The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.

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L Miller goes for 8.

Pass to Hop over the middle is broken up, inc. 3rd and 2 coming up.

Sweep to Thompson goes for 19 and the 1st down.

L Miller goes for 2.

Watson hits Ryan in the flat for a 1st down at the Chief 32.

L Miller for 1.

Pitch to Ellington goes nowhere, flags down.....illegal block in the back on the Texans, -10. Makes it 2nd and 19.

Oy, Watson misses badly over the middle, inc.

Pass to L Miller on the sideline goes inc. Holding on the Texans is declined. Lechler in to punt.

Punt is brought back to the Chief 11. Chief's ball.

2:49 left in the 1st qtr.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by Big Texas

Bruh...jeff Allen was listed as 38 out of 38...Lol

Where was Chris Clark, did you see?

[barrett]

Right when we learn to score we lose two of our best defenders (probably for the year).

I guess we'll always have last week.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by barrett

Right when we learn to score we lose two of our best defenders (probably for the year).

I guess we'll always have last week.

JJ is obviously out for the year. Whitney seemed like a pectoral. Who knows how long that will affect him but I wouldn't think the year necessarily.

I'd already accepted that JJ would never return to be the player he was, but now with the knee, man, that's really too bad.

[Arky]

Pass to Hill gets 14.

Smith pressured, throws it away, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Hunt is stopped for loss of 1. 3rd and 11 coming up.

Pass to Conley good for 12 and the 1st down.

Hunt for 2.

End of the 1st qtr.

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Pass to Kelce goes to the Texan 43 yard line, 1st down.

Pass to Harris goes for 11.

Hunt caught for no gain.

Hunt for 4. Nice tackle, Cole.... 3rd and 6 coming up.

Pass to Kelce gets 4. Chiefs going for the FG.

Butker's 42-yarder is good.

Chiefs 6, Texans 0

11:23 left in the half.

[Big Texas]

Originally Posted by chuck

Where was Chris Clark, did you see?

Not last but a few spots from it...

[Arky]

The ensuing kickoff is a touchback.

L Miller goes for 4.

Watson pressured, throws inc to Fuller. 3rd and 6 coming up.

Watson's pass to Hop off the mark, inc. Texans to punt.

Punt is out of bounds at the Chief 38. Chief's ball.

[Arky]

Hunt goes for 2.

Flare pass to Hunt goes for 10 and the 1st down.

Deep pass goes over everyone, inc.

Hunt caught for a loss of 1.

On 3rd and 11, pass to Kelce goes for 20, 1st down.

Hunt gets loose for about 12 but flag is down.....holding on the Texans, add 10 to the end of the run. Places the ball at the Texan 14.

Flat pass to Kelce goes for 7.

Smith can't find a receiver and keeps for loss of 1. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Smith has all day and finds West for the TD.

Chiefs 13, Texans 0

5:45 left in the half.

[Big Texas]

Well we've seen this movie before...