Rumor: Texans trying to Trade DJ

[popanot]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet · 4m4 minutes ago
Meanwhile, I’m told the #Texans are trying to trade safety DJ Swearinger. He’s started 22 games over his first 2 seasons.

Well that relationship went downhill real fast. They won't get much, if anything, for him. Gee, no red flags here, right? I guess S is in play at #16 now...

[popanot]

Texans also met with S Steve Brown last week:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-j-swearinger/

Need to review trade up possibilities w/DSwag as part of the package...

[HPF Bob]

Was his pit bulls biting Clowney the final straw?

[popanot]

RD1: #16 + DSwag (plus a #7??) might get them up Pick #11 on the high end, Pick #14 on the low end (no reason to move up to #15).

RD2: #51 + DSwag might get them up reasonably high in this Rd.

RD3: Could they get a #3 even up? After RD3 you would think they'd be looking at a 2016 pick as compensation.

Either way, having this news come out now probably doesn't help the cause - whatever their goals is.

[popanot]

Apparently DSwag has been cut or traded. At least according to him he has...

https://instagram.com/p/2iJsGpjB68/

I've never had a huge problem with him, but I'm sort glad this is happening because I don't think he's a good influence on Clowney.

[WMH]

PDS ‏@PatDStat 11m11 minutes ago
There has been a deal in place for Swearinger since last week. Still hearing a player is coming in return. #Texans

[popanot]

Originally Posted by WMH

PDS ‏@PatDStat 11m11 minutes ago
There has been a deal in place for Swearinger since last week. Still hearing a player is coming in return. #Texans

Highly doubt it, but hopefully it's for someone decent. Philly has been trying to trade Kendricks, Kelce and Boykin since before the draft. I'd take Kendricks or Kelce in a heartbeat, and either one would be an immediate starter. It would be a coup if they could get Kendricks. However, Kelce and Boykin are probably more in line value-wise. Kelce is older and makes some good cash and I think his contract expires at the end of the year. Boykin was getting toasted at the end of the year, but at least he's young and cheap and might be worth a shot in hopes he can improve with a change of scenery and coaching.

[popanot]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet · 19m19 minutes ago
DJ Swearinger informed he’ll no longer a member of #Texans. Team has tried to deal him, will keep at it. His goodbye:

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet · 16m16 minutes ago
Last year, #Texans told TJ Yates he was gone, then waited to make it official. Later dealt him to #Falcons. Could be same with Swearinger

Rapoport feels no firm deal is in place at this time. Thinks it's a situation similar to the Yates deal last year. We shall see. I'll probably be somewhat ticked if they cut him or get a low 2016 draft pick after they spent a #2 on him.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by popanot

Highly doubt it, but hopefully it's for someone decent. Philly has been trying to trade Kendricks, Kelce and Boykin since before the draft. I'd take Kendricks or Kelce in a heartbeat, and either one would be an immediate starter. It would be a coup if they could get Kendricks. However, Kelce and Boykin are probably more in line value-wise. Kelce is older and makes some good cash and I think his contract expires at the end of the year. Boykin was getting toasted at the end of the year, but at least he's young and cheap and might be worth a shot in hopes he can improve with a change of scenery and coaching.

Isn't Boykin a CB ? We should be set there. But Kelcy, their center ? We could only hope for that ? I think they'd want some "boot" with DJ for Kelcy.
Why do you even think it's Philly ?

[popanot]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Why do you even think it's Philly ?

Just playing connect-the-dots, haven't heard or seen anything. Philly is the one team that seems to want to move a few players according to reports. Chip Kelly has been trying to deal those guys hard for awhile now and I'm sure there are some hurt egos at this point. But more than likely, we get a low RD pick for Swag (if anything).

[barrett]

Originally Posted by popanot

Just playing connect-the-dots, haven't heard or seen anything. Philly is the one team that seems to want to move a few players according to reports. Chip Kelly has been trying to deal those guys hard for awhile now and I'm sure there are some hurt egos at this point. But more than likely, we get a low RD pick for Swag (if anything).

Chip Kelly who has gone out of his way to draft and acquire smart players with college degrees is going to trade for Swearinger? That would be one way for him to shed the racist tag morons like Stephen A Smith want to put on him.

I always liked Swearinger. He's an idiot, but he's a harmless idiot who intensely cares about football. If he rubs off on Clowney and Clowney acts a little dumber but cares way more about football that is a good trade off in my book.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by barrett

I always liked Swearinger. He's an idiot, but he's a harmless idiot who intensely cares about football. If he rubs off on Clowney and Clowney acts a little dumber but cares way more about football that is a good trade off in my book.

I agree with this mostly but I just don't think Swearinger is a very good football player. Neither, apparently, does the front office. Which is too bad since those slapdicks wasted yet another second round pick on this guy.

It is absolutely incredible how incompetent this team is in drafting players.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by chuck

It is absolutely incredible how incompetent this team is in drafting players.

The pick I've had the most trouble un derstanding was the third round pick out of LSU a couple years ago, Sam Montgomery ? He not only didn't seem very interested in plying NFL ball. He was lazy and in terrible shape when he got to Houston. and he was clearly a 4-3 DE, not a 3-4 DE or 3-4 OLB. He was not a fit for Kuiakcwade Phillips defense. really weird pick. The LSU HC said the same thing on local radio - couldn't understand why the Texans drafted him ?

[barrett]

Originally Posted by chuck

I agree with this mostly but I just don't think Swearinger is a very good football player. Neither, apparently, does the front office. Which is too bad since those slapdicks wasted yet another second round pick on this guy.

It is absolutely incredible how incompetent this team is in drafting players.

I think he has value in a specific circumstance. Kam Chancellor can't cover anyone, but when you put him next to Earl Thomas and let Thomas cover the whole field while Chancellor kills guys and makes every opposing player have alligator arms, you have something.

Swearinger was terrible in coverage. Not only could he not cover, but he also blew assignments regularly. If you partner him with an elite center fielder type he has some value as a head hunter, but we obviously don't have anyone like that. So for us he was basically Dime LB that didn't know how to wrap up.

[nunusguy]

Dammit ! I'm afraid they are just gonna release him with nothing in return, no trade, just cut him, not even a conditional 6th or 7th round pick.

[WMH]

Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26 3m3 minutes ago
Texans release DJ Swearinger

[popanot]

Originally Posted by WMH

Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26 3m3 minutes ago
Texans release DJ Swearinger

Incredible! I don't give crap what any of these "expert" NFL writers, talking heads, or front office people say, Rick Smith is an incompetent nincompoop when comes to being a NFL GM - certainly as it pertains to college talent evaluation and the draft. We basically have one, yes one, usable player out of that draft now. Granted, no one could have predicted what happened to David Quessenberry (at least I HOPE Rick Smith didn't know about it), but it's not like he was a sure fire starter before he went down. Laughingly, the other decent player out of that draft, Chris Jones, we cut and he just won a Super Bowl.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by popanot

Incredible! I don't give crap what any of these "expert" NFL writers, talking heads, or front office people say, Rick Smith is an incompetent nincompoop when comes to being a NFL GM - certainly as it pertains to college talent evaluation and the draft. We basically have one, yes one, usable player out of that draft now. Granted, no one could have predicted what happened to David Quessenberry (at least I HOPE Rick Smith didn't know about it), but it's not like he was a sure fire starter before he went down. Laughingly, the other decent player out of that draft, Chris Jones, we cut and he just won a Super Bowl.

Definitely not a good look for the '13 class, that's for sure.

There's GOT to be something behind the scenes that will surface soon. With the lack of depth at the S position, you would think they'd put up with mediocrity for another season rather than just cut him loose. Is he really worse than anything they'd pick up off the street right now? Can't imagine so. That's why I think there's more to the story, but time will tell.

[popanot]

Rick Smith drafted players still on the team per/draft year:
2007 - 0
2008 - 1 (Duane Brown)
2009 - 1 (Brian Cushing) - They let Barwin and Quinn walk.
2010 - 1 (Kareem Jackson)
2011 - 2 (JJ and Derek Newton) - They let Reed walk.
2012 - 5 (4 if KMart gets cut) - Granted, they got some usable player in 2012. Nothing great, though.
2013 - 2 (Nuk Hopkins and Ryan Griffin - DQ not on the team, really)
2014 - TBD, but we all know what a disaster it was as far as productivity out of that rookie class last year. Not looking good.
2015 - TBD

Almost all of the above picks were taken in the 1rst Round, where you're supposed to at least get a productive player. The 2nd Round on down has been atrocious as far as drafting and retaining players. Just awful. Hate to say it, but people kill the Jags, Titans and Browns for being awful franchises, but the Texans are not far behind.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by WMH

Definitely not a good look for the '13 class, that's for sure.

There's GOT to be something behind the scenes that will surface soon. With the lack of depth at the S position, you would think they'd put up with mediocrity for another season rather than just cut him loose. Is he really worse than anything they'd pick up off the street right now? Can't imagine so. That's why I think there's more to the story, but time will tell.

I agree there's probably more to it than what he does on the field. The thing that bothers me is they and everyone else knew DSwag was a loose cannon as far as his personality and his playing style, yet, they still decided to use a high pick on him.