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Old 05-13-2014, 03:27 PM
Nconroe Nconroe is offline
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...texans-future/

""And in the days since, it doesn’t sound like Johnson is thrilled with the direction of the franchise, saying he wondered “is this still the place for me?”

“This offseason has been very frustrating for me,” Johnson said, via the Houston Chronicle.

Johnson, speaking at a charity event, said he hadn’t asked for a trade, but won’t be reporting to voluntary OTAs or minicamp.""
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Old 05-13-2014, 03:59 PM
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""And in the days since, it doesn’t sound like Johnson is thrilled with the direction of the franchise, saying he wondered “is this still the place for me?”

“This offseason has been very frustrating for me,” Johnson said, via the Houston Chronicle.

Johnson, speaking at a charity event, said he hadn’t asked for a trade, but won’t be reporting to voluntary OTAs or minicamp.""
I don't blame him at all. We have not shown any real intention to win this year, and the truth is it will probably be 2016 at the earliest before we are serious contenders (and that is assuming we get a QB in 2015). I have no idea why Andre or Foster are here with that being the case. I would have thought they'd be off the books already.
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:34 PM
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I don't blame him at all. We have not shown any real intention to win this year, and the truth is it will probably be 2016 at the earliest before we are serious contenders (and that is assuming we get a QB in 2015). I have no idea why Andre or Foster are here with that being the case. I would have thought they'd be off the books already.
I imagine that they couldn't get anything of any real value for them in a trade and if the defense is as good as it could potentially be they think that they might luck into a 9-7, 10-6 even and sneak into the playoffs. Hell, they could win the division at 10-6.

This is not my thinking of course, but you'll recall that McNair thinks they are a playoff team.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:01 PM
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I imagine that they couldn't get anything of any real value for them in a trade and if the defense is as good as it could potentially be they think that they might luck into a 9-7, 10-6 even and sneak into the playoffs. Hell, they could win the division at 10-6.

This is not my thinking of course, but you'll recall that McNair thinks they are a playoff team.
I guess O'Brien has to half play along with McNair's playoff dreams even as he willfully goes into a season with no QB. I would rather we lose and solve the QB position early in next year's draft than go 10-6 because our division and conference are terrible.

Either way I wish AJ and Foster were off the books before 2015, a season we could conceivably contend in. Even if it meant no compensation. And I say that even though they are two of my favorite players and very likable humans (not always the same).
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:23 PM
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I guess O'Brien has to half play along with McNair's playoff dreams even as he willfully goes into a season with no QB. I would rather we lose and solve the QB position early in next year's draft than go 10-6 because our division and conference are terrible.

Either way I wish AJ and Foster were off the books before 2015, a season we could conceivably contend in. Even if it meant no compensation. And I say that even though they are two of my favorite players and very likable humans (not always the same).
But realistically what are the Texans (and Andre's) options if he were willing to be traded ? Obviously nobody would be interested in him with his giant contract,
and there's no way around it is there even if AJ were to agree to a massive restructuring ? Of course he could retire, but I suspect he's not frustrated enough with the plight of the Texans to forgo all of that money.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:27 PM
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I'll preface this rant by saying that AJ always has been, and probably always will be one of my favorite players to watch. Dude can ball.

HOWEVER.....

The Texans don't owe him $hit. He's been very well compensated during his time here, and has been treated very well. We sucked last year, and will probably not be great this year. But he's got a job to do, and he's paid well to do it. Drives me nuts when pro athletes talk about "wanting to win", "looking for a ring", then as soon as they are able to hit FA, they grab the cash and run. AJ never hit FA because the Texans ponied up and gave him a more than generous deal that is neither team nor cap friendly. If he truly wanted to be a "team" guy, he would have taken a pay cut to help us get out of cap hell the last 2 years and maybe they could have been more active in FA. Doubt he'll bring that up to the media.

He's untradeable, with a $12MM cap acceleration that we can't absorb.

He plays for us, he sits unpaid, or he retires. Period, exclamation mark.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:40 PM
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I'll preface this rant by saying that AJ always has been, and probably always will be one of my favorite players to watch. Dude can ball.

HOWEVER.....

The Texans don't owe him $hit. He's been very well compensated during his time here, and has been treated very well. We sucked last year, and will probably not be great this year. But he's got a job to do, and he's paid well to do it. Drives me nuts when pro athletes talk about "wanting to win", "looking for a ring", then as soon as they are able to hit FA, they grab the cash and run. AJ never hit FA because the Texans ponied up and gave him a more than generous deal that is neither team nor cap friendly. If he truly wanted to be a "team" guy, he would have taken a pay cut to help us get out of cap hell the last 2 years and maybe they could have been more active in FA. Doubt he'll bring that up to the media.

He's untradeable, with a $12MM cap acceleration that we can't absorb.

He plays for us, he sits unpaid, or he retires. Period, exclamation mark.
This. I have always felt this way and have taken flak for it. I like AJ and I hope he returns but I have a hard time being sympathetic to any unhappy pro-athlete that makes more in a handful of games than I will make in my lifetime.

On the radio, he (AJ) said he will make his decision soon. The radio guys are saying there is no decision - he needs to get to camp. So, I'm thinking his decision comes down to either a) he comes back or b) he retires....
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