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Old 02-28-2014, 06:51 PM
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I'm not thrilled with having the #1 pick unless we can parlay it into more 2nd and 3rd round picks by trading down. I'm not targeting any particular position. I believe we need a RT to protect whoever the QB is going to be. Not exactly happy with the idea of taking a RT #1 overall, but he's the 'surest' thing that will make an impact and start right away. If I'm going to get a QB to fit the Patriots offense - which we will be running with O'Brien - I have to go with Bortles. Since Bridgewater and Manziel have been sitting on the sidelines, Bortles has seen his stock rise and may be the top QB off the board. Carr isn't on my board because I don't want a QB talking about the Gospel in the lockerroom. I'm not anti-Christian, just want a QB who can separate God from football. Thinking Jimmy Garoppolo or AJ McCarron could be as good if not better on the field. I'd be willing to trade down to #14 and take the top guy left on my draft board as long as I got extra picks. I may have Gilbert higher than anyone else running mock drafts or top 50 lists, but I put him in the Patrick Peterson class shut-down CB/return specialist/playmaker. Anyway, here's my guys:


1 OT Jake Matthews
2 QB Blake Bortles
3 CB Justin Gilbert
4 OT Greg Robinson
5 WR Sammy Watkins
6 OT Taylor Lewan
7 OLB Khalil Mack
8 OLB Anthony Barr
9 OLB Jadeveon Clowney
10 TE Eric Ebron
11 CB Darqueze Dennard
12 OLB Dee Ford
13 QB Teddy Bridgewater
14 QB Johnny Manziel
15 FS Deone Bucannon
16 OLB Marcus Smith
17 DE Kareem Martin
18 CB Keith McGill
19 CB Kyle Fuller
20 OG Xavier Su'a-Filo
21 QB AJ McCarron
22 OT Joel Bitonio
23 DE Trent Murphy
24 WR Jordan Matthews
25 WR Davante Adams
26 WR Donte Moncrief
27 WR Martavis Bryant
28 CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste
29 OLB Chris Smith
30 OLB Demarcus Lawrence
31 QB Jimmy Garoppolo
32 CB Ross Cockrell
33 RB Bishop Sankey
34 RB Tre Mason
35 NT Anthony Johnson
36 NT Zack Kerr
37 OC Weston Richburg
38 NT Caraun Reid
39 OG Brandon Thomas
40 RB Tyler Gaffney
41 DE Will Clarke
42 ILB Avery Williamson
43 ILB Jordan Tripp
44 ILB Prince Shembo
45 RB Lache Seastrunk
46 QB Logan Thomas
47 QB David Fales
48 ILB Ronald Powell
49 OLB Howard Jones
50 OLB James Gayle
51 OT Matt Patchan
52 WR Kevin Norwood
53 RB Jerick McKinnon
54 OLB Kevin Pierre-Lewis
55 OG Trai Turner
56 OLB Jonathan Newsome
57 RB Lorenzo Taliaferro
58 RB David Fluellen
59 OLB Larry Webster
60 RB George Atkinson
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Old 02-28-2014, 11:55 PM
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Any idea which picks move your list from 1st round to 2nd round and then 3rd round.....

I have watched Matthews for 4 years and I like the kid, but I don't think I have him as the top pick in the draft. I don't even have him as the top OT in the draft anymore.

Also I'm kinda shocked were you have clowney.
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Old 03-01-2014, 01:37 PM
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I'm not saying Matthews is the 'best' as much as I'm saying 'safest' pick. Greg Robinson is an impressive, athletic, big man. He seems a big 'raw' and sort of a 'project' in pass protection, but has a huge upside. The more I follow the draft, rate players, then track the players in the league; the more I realize 'we' don't know as much as we think we do (GMs, Draft gurus, Fans, all of us). So, If you are going to 'miss' and make a mistake, make your own mistake instead of following the crowd. I am sure that this list will fluctuate over the next 70 days or so.

#1-#14 are first round picks in my estimation. I'll be surprised if Manziel lasts to #32.

#15 - #23 are guys I like for a 2nd round pick. Bucannon is my prototypical Safety based on his measurable, he tackles and is physical like Swearinger but I think has better cover potential. Because of the need in my estimation and the scarcity in this draft, I may over-value him. I may have Trent Murphy undervalued because I'm not sure if I want him to replace Antonio Smith or Brooks Reed (he's either too small or too slow) - but I like watching him play, thus making him one of 'My Guys' because I like his effort. If you put Murphy's heart & effort in Clowney's body - Then, Clowney is my #1 pick. Then I look at Kareem Martin, and compare him to Cameron Jordan and plug him right into Antonio Smith's position.
I would and may yet put Jimmy Garoppolo up into the 2nd round over McCarron if I didn't see other sources listing him as a 3rd rounder. I admit I didn't see him all season, Alabama got more T.V. time, so that or the SEC competition may be the bias. When it's all said and done, I may slide Bortles down too, thus making Garoppolo even more important to snag instead of hoping and waiting he's there in the 3rd.

#24 - #37 Are my third rounders. Matthews & Adams may be 2nd rounders in the 'real draft' but there are so many big/fast WRs in this draft and I would put Moncrief or Bryant right there. It would almost be a crime to NOT draft one of these guys, there's so much value. With many underclassmen declaring this year, next year may be bare. The third round is where I would consider getting a Giovanni Bernard - type RB if we don't sign Ben Tate or if we are concerned about Foster's future. Sankey & Mason are not big every-down backs, but could make big impacts with few touches. The Biggest Surprise (literally and figuratively) is NT Zack Kerr from Delaware. He is like Bucannon in that he's the only player at a need position who fits my physical prototype. I will admit that I haven't seen him play, but I want him in the middle of the DL and hoping we can coach him up to be a poor-man Dontari Poe or Vince Wilfork. I've seen him ranked much lower.

#38 - #47 Are 4th round prospects. I love Caraun Reid and compare him to Jay Ratliff and Geno Atkins. Not sure if he's a 'fit' in the 3-4 we will be running, but I would give him a shot. This is also a round where I could get Sharpton's replacement or depth if Cushing goes down with injury. If we haven't drafted a QB yet, then this is the time to do it. Logan Thomas is raw as hell, but his size, athleticism, and arm strength makes him a project I wouldn't mind spending a 4th round pick on to see if he could develop.

The rest of my list are athletes who could be 5th rounders - Free Agent signings after the draft.
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:09 AM
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Thank you for the breakdown. I get that Matthews is the safest pick in the top of the draft. And as such is the top of your list.

I am hoping for a trade down, I am hoping that Cleveland is really impressed with Johnny Football and thinks it has to leapfrog some teams.

But that is unlikely. I admit that I have not watched as much college as I have in the past, also I am not getting all worked up as to who I think should be the pick. With the new regime in town I have no clue who will be here next September, and I am looking forward to getting to know some new Texans.
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:15 PM
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1st revision. If we don't draft Bortles in the first round, Garoppolo becomes a priority, so I've moved him up the board.

1 CB Justin Gilbert Oklahoma State 6' 0 1/8" 202
2 OT Greg Robinson Auburn 6' 5" 332
3 OLB Anthony Barr UCLA 6' 4 3/8" 255
4 OLB Khalil Mack Buffalo 6' 2 5/8" 251
5 OT Jake Matthews Texas A&M 6' 5" 308
6 QB Blake Bortles Central Florida 6' 5" 232
7 OT Taylor Lewan Michigan 6' 7" 309
8 WR Sammy Watkins Clemson 6' 3/4" 211
9 OLB Jadeveon Clowney South Carolina 6' 5 1/4" 266
10 TE Eric Ebron North Carolina 6' 4" 245
11 QB Teddy Bridgewater Louisville 6' 2" 214
12 CB Darqueze Dennard Mighigan State 5' 10 7/8" 199
13 QB Jimmy Garoppolo Eastern Illinois 6' 2" 226
14 OLB Dee Ford Auburn 6' 2 1/8" 252
15 DE Trent Murphy Stanford 6' 5 3/8" 250
16 OLB Kony Ealy Missouri 6' 4" 273
17 DE Kareem Martin North Carolina 6' 5 7/8" 272
18 OG Zach Martin Notre Dame 6' 4" 308
19 OG Xavier Su'a-Filo UCLA 6' 4" 307
20 FS Deone Bucannon Washington St 6' 1" 211
21 OT Joel Bitonio Nevada 6' 4 1/4" 302
22 OLB Marcus Smith Louisville 6' 3 3/8" 251
23 CB Keith McGill Utah 6' 3 3/8" 211
24 CB Jason Verrett TCU 5' 9" 189
26 CB Kyle Fuller Virgina Tech 5' 11 3/4" 190
27 QB AJ McCarron Alabama 6' 3" 220
28 WR Jordan Matthews Vanderbilt 6' 2 5/8" 212
29 WR Donte Moncrief Ole Miss 6' 2" 221
30 WR Martavis Bryant Clemson 6' 4" 211
31 RB Bishop Sankey Washington 5' 9" 209
32 RB Tre Mason Auburn 5' 8" 207
33 ILB Jordan Tripp Montana 6' 2 3/4" 234
34 OLB Chris Smith Arkansas 6' 1" 266
35 OLB Demarcus Lawrence Boise 6' 2 7/8" 251
36 CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste Nebraska 6' 2 5/8" 218
37 CB Jaylen Watkins Florida 5' 11" 194
38 FS Terrence Brooks Florida St 5' 11" 198
38 OG Brandon Thomas Clemson 6' 3" 317
39 NT Caraun Reid Princeton 6' 2 1/8" 302
40 RB Tyler Gaffney Stanford 5' 11" 220
41 NT Anthony Johnson LSU 6' 2 1/2" 308
42 OC Weston Richburg Colorado State 6' 3" 298
43 DE Will Clarke West Virginia 6' 6 1/8" 271
44 CB Phillip Gaines Rice 6' 0" 193
45 RB Lache Seastrunk Baylor 5' 9" 201
46 NT Zack Kerr Delaware 6' 1 3/8" 326
47 OG Trai Turner LSU 6'3" 310
48 WR Kevin Norwood Alabama 6' 2" 198
49 OLB Howard Jones Shepard 6' 2 1/2" 235
50 RB Jerick McKinnon Georgia Southern 5' 9" 209
51 ILB Ronald Powell Florida 6' 3 1/8" 237
52 QB David Fales San Jose State 6' 2" 212
53 ILB Avery Williamson Kentucky 6' 1" 246
54 OC Gabe Ikard Oklahoma 6' 4" 304
55 ILB Kevin Pierre-Lewis Boston College 6' 0" 232
56 FS Dontae Johnson NC State 6' 2" 200
56 QB Logan Thomas Virgina Tech 6' 6" 248
57 OLB Larry Webster Bloomsburg 6' 6" 252
58 OLB James Gayle Virgina Tech 6' 3 3/4" 259
59 OT Matt Patchan Boston College 6' 6" 302
60 FS Marqueston Huff Wyoming 5' 11" 196
60 OLB Prince Shembo Notre Dame 6' 1 3/8" 253
61 RB Lorenzo Taliaferro Coastal Carolina 6' 0" 229
62 RB David Fluellen Toledo 5' 11" 224
63 OLB Jonathan Newsome Ball State 6' 2 5/8" 247
64 RB George Atkinson Notre Dame 6' 1" 218
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I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.

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Old 03-25-2014, 08:07 PM
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Hoping for a trade down with the Falcons... moved Greg Robinson up in the same thought that the Chiefs drafted Eric Fisher and were able to let Branden Albert go via FA, meanwhile the QB will be protected and the run game improved. Justin Gilbert is just unmatched in my mind in terms of Patrick Peterson as a shut-down CB and KR. He seems undervalued as I see mock drafts having going to Detroit at #10. I also see that Jimmy Garoppolo and Deone Bucannon have been moving up draft boards and would be great picks in the 2nd round if we were to gain extra draft picks in a trade down. I like the depth of this draft and just hope some team falls in love with a QB/LT/OLB/DE and wants to trade up.

1 OT Greg Robinson Auburn
2 CB Justin Gilbert Oklahoma State
3 OLB Anthony Barr UCLA
4 OLB Khalil Mack Buffalo
5 WR Sammy Watkins Clemson
6 QB Blake Bortles Central Florida
7 OLB Jadeveon Clowney South Carolina
8 OT Jake Matthews Texas A&M
9 OT Taylor Lewan Michigan
10 TE Eric Ebron North Carolina
11 OLB Kony Ealy Missouri
12 OG Xavier Su'a-Filo UCLA
13 OLB Dee Ford Auburn
14 CB Darqueze Dennard Mighigan State
15 QB Jimmy Garoppolo Eastern Illinois
16 DE Trent Murphy Stanford
17 OG Zach Martin Notre Dame
19 FS Deone Bucannon Washington St
20 OT Joel Bitonio Nevada
21 DE Kareem Martin North Carolina
22 TE Austin Sefarian-Jenkins Washington
22 OLB Marcus Smith Louisville
23 RB Bishop Sankey Washington
24 CB Kyle Fuller Virgina Tech
25 CB Keith McGill Utah
26 RB Tre Mason Auburn
27 WR Jordan Matthews Vanderbilt
28 CB Jason Verrett TCU
29 QB AJ McCarron Alabama
30 WR Donte Moncrief Ole Miss
31 WR Martavis Bryant Clemson
32 ILB Jordan Tripp Montana
33 CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste Nebraska
34 OG Brandon Thomas Clemson
35 OLB Chris Smith Arkansas
36 OLB Demarcus Lawrence Boise
37 CB Jaylen Watkins Florida
38 NT Caraun Reid Princeton
39 FS Terrence Brooks Florida St
40 RB Tyler Gaffney Stanford
41 RB Jerick McKinnon Georgia Southern
42 OG Trai Turner LSU
43 NT Anthony Johnson LSU
44 RB Lache Seastrunk Baylor
45 OC Weston Richburg Colorado State
46 DE Will Clarke West Virginia
47 CB Phillip Gaines Rice
48 WR Kevin Norwood Alabama
49 OLB Howard Jones Shepard
50 ILB Avery Williamson Kentucky
51 NT Zack Kerr Delaware
52 ILB Ronald Powell Florida
53 QB Logan Thomas Virgina Tech
54 QB David Fales San Jose State
55 ILB Kevin Pierre-Lewis Boston College
56 OLB Larry Webster Bloomsburg
57 FS Dontae Johnson NC State
58 FS Marqueston Huff Wyoming
59 OC Gabe Ikard Oklahoma
60 RB Lorenzo Taliaferro Coastal Carolina
61 RB David Fluellen Toledo
62 OLB James Gayle Virgina Tech
63 OLB Prince Shembo Notre Dame
64 OLB Jonathan Newsome Ball State
65 OT Matt Patchan Boston College
66 RB George Atkinson Notre Dame
67 ILB Chris Young Arizona St
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:56 PM
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I used my updated draftboard just to see what it might look like with the compensatory picks and without being able to find a trade partner....I have to admit that I looked hard at Garappolo with my #33 and was shocked to see where DraftTek had him slated (very late to the Bengals). As any mock, I'm sure there are going to be surprises on draft day. Anyway, here's my picks...

1. OT Greg Robinson Auburn 6' 5" 332
2. OLB Dee Ford Auburn 6' 2 1/8" 252
3. QB Jimmy Garoppolo Eastern Illinois 6' 2" 226
3. ILB Jordan Tripp Montana 6' 2 3/4" 234
4. NT Caraun Reid Princeton 6' 2 1/8" 302
5. FS Terrence Brooks Florida St 5' 11" 198
5. RB Tyler Gaffney Stanford 5' 11" 220
6. CB Phillip Gaines Rice 6' 0" 193
7. WR Kevin Norwood Alabama 6' 2" 198
7. OLB Howard Jones Shepard 6' 2 1/2" 235 (Mr. Irrelevant)
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Old 03-30-2014, 03:13 PM
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I've added more players and have shuffled some around after FA signings and taking a closer look at some of the Combine/Pro Day numbers trickling in.

1 OT Greg Robinson Auburn 6' 5" 332 4.92
2 CB Justin Gilbert Oklahoma State 6' 0 1/8" 202 4.37
3 OLB Anthony Barr UCLA 6' 4 3/8" 255 4.66
4 OLB Khalil Mack Buffalo 6' 2 5/8" 251 4.65
5 OT Jake Matthews Texas A&M 6' 5" 308 5.07
6 OT Taylor Lewan Michigan 6' 7" 309 4.87
7 OLB Jadeveon Clowney South Carolina 6' 5 1/4" 266 4.53
8 WR Sammy Watkins Clemson 6' 3/4" 211 4.43
9 QB Blake Bortles Central Florida 6' 5" 232 4.93
10 TE Eric Ebron North Carolina 6' 4" 245 4.6
11 OG Xavier Su'a-Filo UCLA 6' 4" 307 5.04
12 DE Trent Murphy Stanford 6' 5 3/8" 250 4.78
13 QB Jimmy Garoppolo Eastern Illinois 6' 2" 226 4.97
14 DE Kony Ealy Missouri 6' 4" 273 4.92
15 OLB Dee Ford Auburn 6' 2 1/8" 252 4.67?
16 CB Darqueze Dennard Mighigan State 5' 10 7/8" 199 4.51
17 QB Derek Carr Fresno St 6' 2" 214 4.69
18 DE Kareem Martin North Carolina 6' 5 7/8" 272 4.72
19 WR Donte Moncrief Ole Miss 6' 2" 221 4.40
20 OT Joel Bitonio Nevada 6' 4 1/4" 302 4.97
21 OG Zach Martin Notre Dame 6' 4" 308 5.22
22 RB Bishop Sankey Washington 5' 9" 209 4.49
23 CB Kyle Fuller Virgina Tech 5' 11 3/4" 190 4.49
24 RB Tre Mason Auburn 5' 8" 207 4.5
25 CB Jason Verrett TCU 5' 9" 189 4.38
26 CB Jaylen Watkins Florida 5' 11" 194 4.41
27 WR Jordan Matthews Vanderbilt 6' 2 5/8" 212 4.46
28 OLB Marcus Smith Louisville 6' 3 3/8" 251 4.68
29 QB AJ McCarron Alabama 6' 3" 220 4.94
30 WR Bruce Ellington South Carolina 5' 9" 197 4.45
31 ILB Jordan Tripp Montana 6' 2 3/4" 234 4.67
32 FS Deone Bucannon Washington St 6' 1" 211 4.49
33 TE CJ Fiedorowicz Iowa 6' 6" 265 4.76
34 CB Keith McGill Utah 6' 3 3/8" 211 4.51
35 CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste Nebraska 6' 2 5/8" 218 4.53?
36 WR Martavis Bryant Clemson 6' 4" 211 4.42
37 OLB Demarcus Lawrence Boise 6' 2 7/8" 251 4.72
38 NT Caraun Reid Princeton 6' 2 1/8" 302 4.9
39 OLB Chris Smith Arkansas 6' 1" 266 4.71
40 OG Brandon Thomas Clemson 6' 3" 317 5.09
41 FS Terrence Brooks Florida St 5' 11" 198 4.42
42 OC Weston Richburg Colorado State 6' 3" 298
43 DE Will Clarke West Virginia 6' 6 1/8" 271 4.73?
44 RB Jerick McKinnon Georgia Southern 5' 9" 209 4.41
45 NT Anthony Johnson LSU 6' 2 1/2" 308 5.25?
46 RB Tyler Gaffney Stanford 5' 11" 220 4.49
47 RB Lache Seastrunk Baylor 5' 9" 201 4.51
48 WR Kevin Norwood Alabama 6' 2" 198 4.48
49 CB Phillip Gaines Rice 6' 0" 193 4.38
50 TE Arthur Lynch Georgia 6' 5" 258 4.82
51 TE Crockett Gillmore Colorado State 6' 6" 260 4.89
52 NT Justin Ellis Louisianna Tech 6' 2" 334 5.27
53 OG Trai Turner LSU 6'3" 310 4.93
54 OLB James Gayle Virgina Tech 6' 3 3/4" 259 4.7
55 OLB Devon Kennard USC 6' 3" 249 4.7
56 OLB Howard Jones Shepard 6' 2 1/2" 235 4.6
57 ILB Avery Williamson Kentucky 6' 1" 246 4.66
58 QB Logan Thomas Virgina Tech 6' 6" 248 4.61
59 ILB Ronald Powell Florida 6' 3 1/8" 237 4.65
60 ILB Kevin Pierre-Lewis Boston College 6' 0" 232 4.51
61 WR Michael Campanaro Wake Forest 5' 9" 192 4.46
62 OLB Prince Shembo Notre Dame 6' 1 3/8" 253 4.68?
63 OLB Kasim Edebali Boston College 6' 2" 253 4.79
64 OLB Larry Webster Bloomsburg 6' 6" 252 4.58
65 OLB Khairi Fortt California 6' 2" 248 4.7
66 FS Dontae Johnson NC State 6' 2" 200 4.45
67 NT Zack Kerr Delaware 6' 1 3/8" 326 5.08
68 OC Gabe Ikard Oklahoma 6' 4" 304 5.13
69 FS Marqueston Huff Wyoming 5' 11" 196 4.49
70 RB Lorenzo Taliaferro Coastal Carolina 6' 0" 229
71 RB David Fluellen Toledo 5' 11" 224
72 OLB Jonathan Newsome Ball State 6' 2 5/8" 247 4.73
73 OT Matt Patchan Boston College 6' 6" 302
74 RB George Atkinson Notre Dame 6' 1" 218 4.48
75 ILB Chris Young Arizona St 6' 0" 252 4.67
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