My Top 50

[Roy P]

Been tweeking and re-tweeking my board since the Senior Bowl. I like to put this out, so I can see who I would draft if given the chance to play GM. This draft doesn't have a lot of top tier players, but has so many guys at the bottom of the 1st who could go in the top of the 4th. So, I've tried to not pay too much attention to the other experts out there and just ranked them as I want them. Most likely Fisher and Johnson will be gone before we pick, but I'd be willing to trade up for either of them. I have EJ Manual, Da'Rick Rogers, and Ryan Swope a lot higher than elsewhere. Here's my list:

1 OT Eric Fisher Central Michigan
2 OT Lane Johnson Oklahoma
3 QB EJ Manuel Florida St
4 CB Desmond Trufant Washington
5 DT Sylvester Williams North Carolina
6 OT Tyron Armstead Ark Pine Bluff
7 DE Datone Jones UCLA
8 WR DaRick Rogers Tenn Tech
9 WR Ryan Swope Texas A&M
10 WR DeAndre Hopkins Clemson
11 SS Jonathan Cyprien Fla Intl
12 WR Justin Hunter Tennessee
13 DT Kawann Short Purdue
14 OLB Jamie Collins Southern Miss
15 CB Darius Slay Mississippi St
16 WR Robert Woods USC
17 CB D.J. Hayden Houston
18 DT Brandon Williams Missouri Southern St
19 CB David Amerson NC State
20 ILB Jon Bostic Florida
21 CB Jordan Poyer Oregon St
22 FS Philip Thomas Fresno St.
23 OLB Cornelius Washington Georgia
24 WR Quinton Patton La Tech
25 WR Terrance Williams Baylor
26 OLB Corey Lemonier Auburn
27 OT David Quessenberry San Jose St.
28 ILB Zaviar Gooden Missouri
29 ILB Sio Moore Connecticut
30 OC Brian Schwenke California
31 CB Dwayne Gratz Connecticut
32 CB Robert Alford S. Louisiana
33 FS Bacarri Rambo Georgia
34 ILB AJ Klein Iowa St
35 WR Aaron Mellette Elon
36 WR Aaron Dobson Marshall
37 WR Tavarres King Georgia
38 ILB Kevin Reddick North Carolina
39 FS Josh Evans Florida
40 WR Conner Vernon Duke
41 OLB Ty Powell Harding
42 WR Cobi Hamilton Arkansa
43 DT Josh Boyd Mississippi St
44 DE Devin Taylor S. Carolina
45 WR Corey Fuller Va Tech
46 OLB Mike Catapano Princeton
47 ILB Devonte Holloman S. Carolina
48 TE Michael Williams Alabama
49 ILB Vince Williams Florida St
50 OG Hugh Thornton Illinois

[Roy P]

Another day, another adjustment. Can't wait for the draft to come. Added some TEs and later CBs.

1 OT Lane Johnson Oklahoma 6'6" 302
2 OT Eric Fisher Central Michigan 6'7" 305
3 TE Tyler Eifert Notre Dame 6'6" 250
4 QB EJ Manuel Florida St 6'4" 237
5 DE Datone Jones UCLA 6'4" 280
6 TE Zach Ertz Stanford 6'5" 249
7 CB Desmond Trufant Washington 5'11" 190
8 DT Sylvester Williams North Carolina 6'3" 313
9 OT Tyron Armstead Ark Pine Bluff 6'4" 306
10 DT Kawann Short Purdue 6'3" 308
11 WR DaRick Rogers Tenn Tech 6'3" 217
12 CB Darius Slay Mississippi St 6'0" 192
13 WR Ryan Swope Texas A&M 6'0" 205
14 SS Jonathan Cyprien Fla Intl 6'0" 209
15 WR Justin Hunter Tennessee 6'4" 196
16 OLB Jamie Collins Southern Miss 6'4" 250
17 OLB Cornelius Washington Georgia 6'4" 265
18 WR Robert Woods USC 6'1" 201
19 DT Brandon Williams Missouri Southern St 6'2" 335
20 CB D.J. Hayden Houston 5'11" 191
21 WR DeAndre Hopkins Clemson 6'1" 214
22 CB David Amerson NC State 6'1" 205
23 CB Dwayne Gratz Connecticut 5'11" 200
24 OLB Corey Lemonier Auburn 6'4" 255
25 TE Travis Kelce Cincinnati 6'5" 255
26 OT David Bakhtiari Colorado 6'4" 299
27 ILB Jon Bostic Florida 6'1" 245
28 TE Vance McDonald Rice 6'4" 267
29 WR Quinton Patton La Tech 6'0" 204
30 ILB Zaviar Gooden Missouri 6'2" 233
31 OT David Quessenberry San Jose St. 6'5" 294
32 ILB Sio Moore Connecticut 6'1" 245
33 CB Jordan Poyer Oregon St 6'0" 182
34 DT Montori Hughes Tenn Martin 6'4" 329
35 FS Philip Thomas Fresno St. 6'1" 210
36 WR Terrance Williams Baylor 6'2" 208
37 OC Brian Schwenke California 6'3" 307
38 CB Robert Alford S. Louisiana 5'10" 186
39 CB BW Webb William&Mary 5'10" 184
40 CB Blidi Wreh-Wilson Connecticut 6'1" 195
41 DE Devin Taylor S. Carolina 6'7" 275
42 FS Bacarri Rambo Georgia 6'1" 215
43 OT Vinston Painter Va Tech 6'4" 306
44 CB Brandon McGee Miami 5'11" 193
45 WR Aaron Mellette Elon 6'3" 216
46 WR Aaron Dobson Marshall 6'3" 210
47 ILB AJ Klein Iowa St 6'1" 246
48 OLB Ty Powell Harding 6'2" 249
49 WR Tavarres King Georgia 6'0" 192
50 DT Josh Boyd Mississippi St 6'3" 312
51 FS Josh Evans Florida 6'1" 207
52 WR Conner Vernon Duke 6'0" 193
53 WR Cobi Hamilton Arkansa 6'2" 212
54 ILB Kevin Reddick North Carolina 6'2" 243
55 CB Steve Williams California 5'9" 181

[painekiller]

IMO Ertz is to high. Trufant is better than Ertz, but that is just me.

Also I am not sure I can figure out who you are targeting at 27?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

IMO Ertz is to high. Trufant is better than Ertz, but that is just me.

Also I am not sure I can figure out who you are targeting at 27?

I'm targeting whoever is there. I can see a lot of surprises in the 1st round because of what I said about there not being much difference between 25 & 75. That's why everyone wants to trade down. Most likely, I'm guessing Ertz or Manuel would be my top prospect at @ 27

[Nconroe]

Just one more day to wait.

Roy, maybe you could say where your list might break for each round.

I agree with BPA by teams board in round 1 and 2. Best if those also fill a need or if not maybe trade down if available.

Due to player rank this year could be lots of trades and surprises.

[Roy P]

I would take any of my top 11 in the first round & be happy

[Blitzwood]

No mention of Kevin Minter from LSU?

The Texans will have to draft a LB early, 2nd or 3rd round I imagine, to plug either inside or out, depending on who is available, being that Brooks Reed offers them flexability at both inside and out.

I could see them targeting (hopefully) Jaime Collins in the 3rd since he also offers them the same type of flexibility as Brooks. Other possibilities are Kiko Alonso and Brandon Jenkins, though their position flexibility is somewhat more limited.

[Roy P]

I have Jamie Collins #16 & Cornelius Washington #17. I like Corey Lemonier #24. Also mentioned Jon Bostic, Zaviar Gooden, Sio Moore, and AJ Klein.

[Roy P]

Mike Mayock & Gil Brandt have posted their top guys. I noted some differences of opinion on a few of "My Guys"...Mayock ranked Datone Jones # 27 & Brandt ranked him #78. Darius Slay ranked #59 & #31, Jamie Collins ranked #49 & #76. Cornelius Washington ranked #54 & 117. DJ Hayden ranked #14 & #43. David Amerson #99 & #54. So those are examples of players who are evaluated much differently.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I can see a lot of surprises in the 1st round because of what I said about there not being much difference between 25 & 75. That's why everyone wants to trade down.

See that confuses me ? Do you really mean everyone wants to trade down or father back because they don't see much difference between 1 & 25 ?
On another subject, wonder how many QBs are going to end up being taken in the first round ? It's almost always more that anybody expects, and this year several so-called experts are saying nobody gets picked in the first round ?

[Roy P]

There are few blue-chip players in this draft. Joekel, Lane Johnson, Fisher, Warmack, Cooper, & Tavon Austin. The rest is anybody's guess. Jon Bostic has as much chance to be a good player as Manti Teo. Da'rick Rogers could be just as good as Cordarrelle Patterson, Tyler Bray might be as good as Geno Smith. Brandon Williams as effective as Sylvester Williams. Robert Alford or Dee Milliner. So, if you can trade down, you double your chances that at least one player pans out and you don't pay as much for your 1st pick.

[Joe Joe]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I'm targeting whoever is there. I can see a lot of surprises in the 1st round because of what I said about there not being much difference between 25 & 75. That's why everyone wants to trade down. Most likely, I'm guessing Ertz or Manuel would be my top prospect at @ 27

I would not mind Manuel at all.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

There are few blue-chip players in this draft. Joekel, Lane Johnson, Fisher, Warmack, Cooper, & Tavon Austin. The rest is anybody's guess. Jon Bostic has as much chance to be a good player as Manti Teo. Da'rick Rogers could be just as good as Cordarrelle Patterson, Tyler Bray might be as good as Geno Smith. Brandon Williams as effective as Sylvester Williams. Robert Alford or Dee Milliner. So, if you can trade down, you double your chances that at least one player pans out and you don't pay as much for your 1st pick.

OK then, looks like you did mean to say there not being much difference 1 to 25 and not 25 to 75 as I suspected.
But actually I don't think this years LTs are particularly talented vs their peers in recent years, whereas the 2 guards are clearly exceptional vs any year,
but as we know interior OLine is not considered high-value positions (C/G). Austin looks to be the real wild-card of this draft, and there's no telling how
high he might end up being taken, but looking more and more like top 10 ? He could be the player everybody thought Reggie Bush might be, or he could
end being just too small to take the pounding he's gonna get in the NFL.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

OK then, looks like you did mean to say there not being much difference 1 to 25 and not 25 to 75 as I suspected.
But actually I don't think this years LTs are particularly talented vs their peers in recent years, whereas the 2 guards are clearly exceptional vs any year,
but as we know interior OLine is not considered high-value positions (C/G). Austin looks to be the real wild-card of this draft, and there's no telling how
high he might end up being taken, but looking more and more like top 10 ? He could be the player everybody thought Reggie Bush might be, or he could
end being just too small to take the pounding he's gonna get in the NFL.

I meant there's not much difference between #25 & # 75. This draft is deep, but the talent is not great.

Could see Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, Matt Barkley, Ryan Nasib, & Mike Glennon all being overdrafted in the 1st rund. Considering Ponder, Locker, & Tebow were 1st round picks.