Demeco traded to Eagles

Arky · #1 03-20-2012, 06:10 PM

Per 610 right now.

For a future draft pick...

Wow.

Roy P · #2 03-20-2012, 06:28 PM

Just saw this and wonder if we draft an ILB like Luke Keuchly or Zach Brown...

HPF Bob · #3 03-20-2012, 06:29 PM

McClain says "undisclosed" pick not "future" pick. It could/should be a 2012 draft pick, maybe a third or fourth.

What they aren't saying in the article is that this opens up more cap space, which might be the underlying reason for the trade - sell-off one of your bigger contracts so you can grab some of the remaining FAs on the market.

Since Ryans was being taken out on passing downs, this looks like a smart move.

Other reports now say the pick is a "mid-round".

Arky · #4 03-20-2012, 06:34 PM

All picks are future if they ain't happened.....

I'm hearing "multiple" picks, now...

Roy P · #5 03-20-2012, 06:44 PM

I like multiple picks. We can hope to find an ILB who is better in coverage vs. TE's and maybe fill another spot too.

barrett · #6 03-20-2012, 06:55 PM

I hope this is more about Duane Brown than about any FAs this year.

Demeco was miscast as a 34 MLB. He does not have the size when the only DT in front of him is Cody. It wasn't fair to ask him to do things he can't do while limiting what he does (the OL getting to him keeps him from diagnosing plays and getting to the ball). Not to mention #2 ILB is probably the 12th/13th most important position on our Defense (behind all the starters, the Nickel CB, and the 3rd OLB/Pass rusher).

Good luck to Demeco and I hope he suceeds in Philly. And I am happy that we picked up something for him rather than cutting him.

And I don't think we need to draft to replace him. Dobbins and Sharpton were very good last year.

Arky · #7 03-20-2012, 07:04 PM

Latest rumor is we get an extra 4th rounder from Philly and swap with them in the 3rd round.

So, if I got it right, we move up from 89th to 77th overall in the 3rd round...

Nconroe · #8 03-20-2012, 07:04 PM

Yep, hate to see Demeco go but understand.

I heard 4th this year and next and swap thirds this year but unconfirmed.

Isn't Dobbins still unsigned FA?

And agree, need to lockup Duane Brown.

Good luck to Demeco in future.

nunusguy · #9 03-20-2012, 07:16 PM

One of my all-time Texans favs, but it makes sense, business sense that is.
And freeing up cap space is probably the main attraction here for the Texans.
I'm happy for DeMeco, he's going to a real contender and back in his old position in the middle of the Eagles 4-3. Hate to see him go though.

WMH · #10 03-20-2012, 07:44 PM

Saw something where this doesn't help much on this years cap, but is worth about $9mm on next years.

Solid move IMO.

Keith · #11 03-20-2012, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WMH

Saw something where this doesn't help much on this years cap, but is worth about $9mm on next years.

Solid move IMO.

Agreed, lots of rational thinking in this thread, love it.

The cap savings comes in future years because I would assume the prorated bonus money on his last contract now accelerates to the 2012 cap. I don't have the exact figures, but the Texans saved probably the $5.9 million on his base pay but offset that against the bonus acceleration.

I had DeMeco down for base salaries of $6.6 million in 2013 and $6.8 million in 2014, so add the bonus, and I could easily see this saving $9 million off the 2013 cap.

Trading solid, but expensive starters for multiple picks... nice move, Patrio-err.....Texans.

TheMatrix31 · #12 03-20-2012, 10:35 PM

I don't like the deal but I certainly "understand' it.

And I don't know if "multiple picks" is correct, it's a pick + swap. The swap is pretty nice.

I fear the effect this will have on the locker room. Even if DeMeco wasn't a "fit" (which I don't believe, dude was tearing it up late in the year), he's still the unquestioned leader of the team.

Have much less of a problem letting Mario, Winston, and Brisiel go. DeMeco? Not so much.

Still trying to figure out how we're in so much monetary trouble to begin with.

popanot · #13 03-20-2012, 10:41 PM

Supposedly the 4th rounder we get is from Tampa Bay, which Philly acquired last year. Haven't looked, but I'm pretty sure that's a higher pick than the Eagles #4.

Edit: Yep, 5th pick in RD4.

WMH · #14 03-20-2012, 10:53 PM

Jabba's reporting $2mm in dead cap this year, saves $9mm next year.

Whatever that's worth........

Arky · #15 03-20-2012, 11:08 PM

Walter has already updated in his mock. Here's how it currently stands for the Texans through 5 rounds:

26th
58th
77th
99th
121st
153rd

nunusguy · #16 03-21-2012, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by popanot

Supposedly the 4th rounder we get is from Tampa Bay, which Philly acquired last year. Haven't looked, but I'm pretty sure that's a higher pick than the Eagles #4.

Edit: Yep, 5th pick in RD4.

So the combined value is equivalent to a late third-rounder, 'bout the 24th pick in the third round. That's definitely worth something.

popanot · #17 03-21-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by popanot

Edit: Yep, 5th pick in RD4.

Actually, looking at that Walter link Arky posted, we get the 4th pick in Rd4. I guess the Bucs and Browns ended up in a draft tie and flip-flop picks every other round.

I'm amazed at how many radio callers and people posting of PFT do not get this trade. Sure it hurts losing Meco and his leadership, but the Texans got something now when they could rather than just cutting him next year when his value would probably be nil. Good move, IMO.

WMH · #18 03-21-2012, 10:02 AM

From Paul K @ ESPN South Blog:

"The move doesn’t do anything to alleviate the team’s cap issues. It actually will cost Houston $750,000 this year. While Ryans was due the large base salary, he had $9 million left of a prorated signing bonus that moves to this year with the trade. He will be off the Texans' books next year."

I would not be shocked if they try to lock down Brown and Barwin prior to this season.

popanot · #19 03-21-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WMH

I would not be shocked if they try to lock down Brown and Barwin prior to this season.

No doubt this trade was for 2013 cap relief. They were wise to do it now and get SOMETHING for DeMeco. I'm really curious if they tried to shop Winston around as it would seem he'd at least have mid-round trade value.

I agree they need to get Barwin and/or Schaub signed before next season. Brown will probably be difficult to sign early. Actually, I'm shocked they haven't renegotiated Schaub's deal yet. IMO, both the Texans and Schaub should have motivation to get a deal done now. The Texans because of the obvious cap issues, and Schaub because he's coming off an injury and a bad season would kill his FA value. As for Brown, I'm not too concerned about him because worse case he gets the F-Tag.

HPF Bob · #20 03-21-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by popanot

worse case he gets the F-Tag.

Isn't that what we were saying about Mario?