Training camp 2011 news

Arky · #1 07-31-2011, 11:35 AM

I ain't got any. You got any?

Arky · #2 07-31-2011, 12:14 PM

Here's some (Texan related) news:

Vonta Leach to the Ravens for 3 yrs, 11 million....

Hello, James Casey.

Nconroe · #3 07-31-2011, 12:53 PM

Looks like all draft picks but Watt and Carmichael signed now, they will follow soon I suppose.

Today is mainly physicals and meetings isn't it?

Arky · #4 07-31-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nconroe

Today is mainly physicals and meetings isn't it?

Might be. I imagine the pictures and stories to come rolling in soon....

painekiller · #5 07-31-2011, 02:40 PM

All the draft picks have been signed according to the chron.com

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Defensive end J.J. Watt, the first-round pick, was the last draft choice to agree to a new deal. He gets a four-year contract, all guaranteed under the new collective bargaining agreement, for $4.701 million, including a signing bonus of $6.67 million.
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Reed, 24, is a second-round pick who signed for four years and $4.701 million, including $2.779 guaranteed. He's expected to compete with Connor Barwin for playing time on the strong side. He also could be utilized as an end in passing situations.
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Harris, 21, was the second pick in the second round. General manager Rick Smith traded to acquire an extra second-round pick to select Harris. Harris signed a four-year contract for $3.299 million, including $1.55 million guaranteed.

chuck · #6 07-31-2011, 03:53 PM

Nobody asked me but I'm not sold on Casey at FB.

Nconroe · #7 07-31-2011, 04:24 PM

sure not much on practice so far, maybe on evening or nightime news
http://www.kltv.com/story/15181881/t...-training-camp

mostly want to watch defensive at open practice and preseason for progress, but the fullback position will also be interesting to compare, Casey, two UDFA, maybe they will bring in some experinece FB as part of 90 man practice roster as well.

It would be nice to know what their cap situation really is now, if they need to acquire a few more players, perhaps on DL on LB, Punter, so on.

Sounds like no two-adays this year, so all morning practices. Last year those were two hours or so, wonder if with 90 players and one a days, they will go longer than that?

another short training camp update http://www.foxkansas.com/sports/nfl/...FyGPdLSWQ.cspx

first real practice is Saturday night, 8 PM, against NY Jets, here at Reliant it seems.

Arky · #8 07-31-2011, 04:37 PM

Former Patriots, A&M end Warren visiting Texans

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Former New England defensive end Ty Warren is coming to Houston on Monday to visit with the Texans.

Former Cleveland fullback Lawrence Vickers doesn't have to come to Houston to visit with the Texans because he already resides here. The Texans are interested in Vickers to replace Vonta Leach, who signed with Baltimore today.

Warren, 30, is a Bryan native who played at Texas A&M. He was New England's first-round pick in 2003. He missed last season because of a hip injury but says he's 100 percent now.

"I'm an open book," Warren said while visiting with the Denver Broncos. "I've passed my physical. I'm ready to play. I'd love to come back to Texas. We'll see what happens."

Vickers, who grew up in Beaumont, spent his first five seasons with the Browns. Their new coaching staff wants a versatile fullback rather than one who's just a powerful lead blocker. Vickers is a leader blocker in the Leach mold.

Tight end James Casey is doing to get the first chance at Leach's job, but the Texans will have to sign a veteran, too.

Nconroe · #9 07-31-2011, 05:08 PM

http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/in...2e67fd68e05730

Sounds like Demeco, Mario, and AJ all healed and ready to go from off season surgery.

And Foster, Breisel, and Studdard are all signed now.

Along with a few more UDFA, defensive tackle Guy Miller, defensive end Scooter Berry and linebacker Matt Marcorelle.

optimism a plenty for now, and we only have like 5th hardest schedule this year where seems past couple years we had hardest season schedule.

Matt Marcarelle - Height / Weight:6-2 / 250
could be a good UDFA signing, Delaware's defense ranks No. 1 in the nation among all NCAA Division I teams (FCS and FBS) in scoring defense, allowing just 11.5 points per game. Blue Hen sixth-year senior linebacker/defensive end Matt Marcorelle ranks among the active leaders in the nation in the FCS classification in three categories (No. 4 in forced fumbles with 7, No. 18 in sacks with 16.5, and No. 11 in tackles for loss with 40.5 - 4th all-time at Delaware).

itssharif · #10 07-31-2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck

Nobody asked me but I'm not sold on Casey at FB.

I think the Texans offensive minds can get creative in ways they can use him though. I'm kind of with you still but let's see!

painekiller · #11 07-31-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Arky

Former Patriots, A&M end Warren visiting Texans

I like this. Warren as a back up can only help push/teach JJ Watts. I hope they sign him tomorrow.

barrett · #12 07-31-2011, 07:18 PM

Casey might be able to play an h-back role, but he is definitely no FB. Our offense will either throw out the power running game and any FB plays we relied on from last year, or someone else will play FB. Casey is a great pass catcher who they are trying to find an NFL position for.

today · #13 07-31-2011, 07:29 PM

I'd be interested to see all of our short yardage and goaline plays from last year to get a feel for just how important a role Vonta played in the power game. I sure hope that we get a reasonable deal worked out with Vickers, seems like a good fit for both parties.

Nconroe · #14 07-31-2011, 07:46 PM

I don't know if true, I heard that like 80% of NFL teams don't use a FB anymore due to overwhelming passing attack.

And separately heard that Leach was only in on about 34 % of scrimmage plays last year, so even not full time use of FB for Texans.

But we certainly saw hi-lites where FB was used successfully, some big blocks by Leach last year.

Arky · #15 07-31-2011, 09:13 PM

Lance Z has these soundbites from the 1st day of camp.

If you click on any, make sure to check out AJ in the first one.... turn your volume up a notch....

chuck · #16 07-31-2011, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett

Casey might be able to play an h-back role, but he is definitely no FB.

This is precisely my thought. I love having him on the field and putting him in different places where he might receive the ball or give the defense another dimension to worry about, but asking him to charge through a hole and clear it out like a real FB, well, think again.

today · #17 07-31-2011, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nconroe

And separately heard that Leach was only in on about 34 % of scrimmage plays last year, so even not full time use of FB for Texans.

Not sure who's correct, but 38% (i think) was the number that I heard spouted on the radio by Dylan Gwinn on Friday when he was on in Charlie's slot. He was using that to show that the expectations for Foster shouldn't be adjusted based upon losing Vonta.

The reason I was interested in the short yardage and goaline plays in my earlier post is because that's where I see us really missing a true blocking fullback, thus I wanted to review exactly how integral a role he played in those situations.

painekiller · #18 07-31-2011, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Arky

Lance Z has these soundbites from the 1st day of camp.

If you click on any, make sure to check out AJ in the first one.... turn your volume up a notch....

I'm with Eric, we need to go to more sets that make the defense react with no good options. They go nickle you run, they go big base or big you split out Owen and Casey, then you have fun.

Nconroe · #19 08-01-2011, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by today

Not sure who's correct, but 38% (i think) was the number that I heard spouted on the radio by Dylan Gwinn on Friday when he was on in Charlie's slot. He was using that to show that the expectations for Foster shouldn't be adjusted based upon losing Vonta.

The reason I was interested in the short yardage and goaline plays in my earlier post is because that's where I see us really missing a true blocking fullback, thus I wanted to review exactly how integral a role he played in those situations.

Probably I remembered the 38% wrong.

I guess another similar question might be how did we do so much better last year from years before in the short yardage and goal line situations? or first half of game vs second half of game for offense?

barrett · #20 08-01-2011, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by today

Not sure who's correct, but 38% (i think) was the number that I heard spouted on the radio by Dylan Gwinn on Friday when he was on in Charlie's slot. He was using that to show that the expectations for Foster shouldn't be adjusted based upon losing Vonta.

The reason I was interested in the short yardage and goaline plays in my earlier post is because that's where I see us really missing a true blocking fullback, thus I wanted to review exactly how integral a role he played in those situations.

That number could be misleading. Before I take that number to mean Leach's loss isn't that big (what the Texans are spinning), I would ask what % of Foster's yards came on those %38 of the plays. If Foster got 75% of his rushing yards on the 38% of the plays then we have a problem. If he got %38 then not so much. But the number of plays is not suprising or particularly revealing.