Official Texans @ Jets Game Thread, 11/21/2010

[Arky]

The dysfunctional Texans take to the road this weekend to take on the New York Football Jets. The lucky and good Jets are currently 7-2 and boast a #11 Offense and a #5 Defense (both total yards). The Texans are #5 in offense and (thanks to the Redskins giving up nearly 600 yards last night to Vick's Eagles) #31 in Defense. The Texans really, really need a "W".

TV = CBS (Channel 11 local), 12 noon Sunday

Announcers = Greg Gumbel and Dan Dierdorf

Interesting stuff at the link above: Just about all of America gets the late CBS game of Indy vs. New England (Nantz/Simms). Fox gives Houston the late New Orleans game instead of the early Dallas game - rare occurence.

Opening line = Jets by 6.5
Current line = Jets by 7 to 7.5

Stats from walterfootball.com:

* Gary Kubiak is 9-1 against the spread in his second consecutive road game.
* Texans are 28-14 against the spread after two or more consecutive losses.
* 58% of the money on the Texans so far.

Set your DVR's.

[Fonz the Boss]

Jets 31
Texans 17

[Nconroe]

Well, in their last four games, Jets are 3-1, loosing to Greenbay9-0, and narrow wins over Denver24-20, Detroit23-20 overtime, and Cleveland26-20 in overtime.

Houston is averaging 373 yds/game on offense to Jets 362.

But, on defense, Texans are giving up an average of 410 yds/game compared to much less 307 yds given up per game by Jets. That is like 57 yds/game more than they gave up last year, so really on a defensive slide right now. wish we had such a problem.

Apparently best to attack Jets defense in middle of field with TE's since their CB's are pretty good, but LB's a little slow relatively speaking. And, they have to blitz to get a pass rush this year so that opens some plays maybe to Arian. But they are tough against the run.

On offense, Jets are a running team mostly averaging 150.7 yds/game, so we shall see, maybe they will be overconfident.

Texans offense needs to start out quickly, no turnovers, and control the clock, which it can do.

Defense, Texans, I think try to play eight in the box to control the run early , pressure Sanchez on passes, and make sure every receiver is covered tight.

So, based on that I'll wishfully pick Texans in the upset, not betting on it, 27-24, leading throughout the game.

[HPF Bob]

The Texans have never beaten the Jets and they've never won a game in New Jersey. I don't see that changing this week. We were completely dominated by the Jets in week one last year. The Texans could stay up with New York if the breaks come their way (like Sanchez breaks a leg or something) but, I just don't see this game being competitive on paper.

[TheMatrix31]

Jets are the most overrated team in the league, barely squeaking wins against Denver, Detroit, and Cleveland. Yeah, they're good, but they're not world beaters.

The Texans want blood. From Game 1 last year, to the Jets sneaking in over us because the Colts and Bengals laid down, to blowing games the last two weeks.

Wouldn't be surprised at ALL to win this game.

Texans - 23
Jets - 17

[WMH]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

Jets are the most overrated team in the league, barely squeaking wins against Denver, Detroit, and Cleveland. Yeah, they're good, but they're not world beaters.

The Texans want blood. From Game 1 last year, to the Jets sneaking in over us because the Colts and Bengals laid down, to blowing games the last two weeks.

Wouldn't be surprised at ALL to win this game.

Texans - 23
Jets - 17

While I agree with you, do you really think we can hold anyone to 17 points? I've pretty much come to the conclusion that the first one to 30 is going to win the balance of our games 95% of the time (had to leave myself 1 exception for the 29 pt W/L).

We score 30 or more, we will win more than we will lose.

[coloradodude]

If I were to pick two words to describe my prediction of this game...


"oh crap"

"we're screwed"

"another loss"

"Jets blitz"

"shutdown corners"

But my disgust won't be with our offense because they are up against a formidable opponent. It will be with our lack of penetration, and single teaming, of Mario Williams.

[popanot]

I'm holding out all hope this team can grow some nads and possibly win a few of these tough games. But if history is an indicator of things to come, they'll likely get destroyed and be curled up in the fetal position by the end of the 1rst Qtr like what usually happens against physical teams.

I think that's what bothers me most about this team, their lack of toughness. They've only had two games in the Kubiak era were I could say they were more physical than the opponent. This year's home opener against the Colts and last year (or maybe it was the year before) when they went into Possum Holler and beat the Titans.

[TheMatrix31]

Originally Posted by WMH

While I agree with you, do you really think we can hold anyone to 17 points? I've pretty much come to the conclusion that the first one to 30 is going to win the balance of our games 95% of the time (had to leave myself 1 exception for the 29 pt W/L).

We score 30 or more, we will win more than we will lose.

I'd say my "17" its moreso the lack of explosion and stability for the Jets offense than our defense holding them.

We'll see, I guess.

[sinnister]

I don't know if I can watch this game. I think I will DVR it and decide later if I will watch it. I am seriously considering canceling my Sunday ticket next year. During the Jaguar game, I could no longer watch our defense. If it is 3 and 8, they get 10....or more. EVERY TIME. If any Texan defensive player is reading this, here is a tip. If you see Shaun Cody get by an O-Lineman, it is a screen. It is the only way he can.

I will say that I believe this to be a make or break game for us. I wonder how much more fight our team has, and if we get thumped again, I wouldn't be shocked to see a collapse. I like Kubiak, but I think he will over analyze this game and not take advantage of the aggressiveness of the Jets-D. To confuse them, he will do what they don't expect. The Offense will be flustered with the blitzes and get from behind early. I hope I am wrong, but I am thinking:

Jets-38
Texans-17

[chuck]

Ryan is going to shut the running game down cold. He's going to bring the safeties up and limit Foster to very, very little at the outset. The guys outside are going to see a lot of man and it will be up to Kubiak to respond to this and to Schaub to three step and get the ball out on slants and outs and maybe to the TEs where they find space in the middle of the field. If Andre can break one or two for thirty or so Fatboy will have to back off a little and Foster will have some room and the Texans will have a chance to score some points. If Fatboy completely outwits Kubiak as I anticipate it will be an ugly, ugly day. I can very easily see this being the worst beatdown of the Kubiak era.

On an unrelated note, the more I think about it the more I'm sure Kubiak will be back next year, along with Rick Smith, sans Bush and most of the defensive staff.

[HPF Bob]

Chuck, the normal trend is for coordinators to go before the head coach goes so it could be Kubiak has already passed that stage with Richard Smith and Shanny Jr. having moved on or it could be we'll see Bush dismissed first.

Often, a key factor is whether the head coach has lost control of the team. If the players support and respect him, Kubiak probably stays around another year. If they don't, he'll be gone by spring.

[NBT]

Jets - As much as they want. Defense is defensless.

Texans - just another address. 0-zilch

Maybe if I jinx them bad enough, they'll get off their ass!!!

[Fonz the Boss]

Of one thing I am certain.... Bush wont be back next year. Theres nothing he can do over the next 7 games to save his job. He's got decent talent there but he cant figure things out. Remember when Richard Smith was in the hot seat a couple of years ago? He dialed up some blitzes over the last few games and the Texans were getting the turnovers and playing good D.... That didnt save Richard.

[coloradodude]

If we get our butts handed to us on a silver platter, which I'm predicting, can somebody send Schottenheimer a walker with the tennis balls on it and ask him to be our head coach? Pay him WHATEVER he wants.

I'm just stupid enough to think he can still build a 13 and 3 team. I no longer care one single iota about the playoffs. Consecutive winning seasons of 10 wins or more is all I want.

[Arky]

As if...

An opportunity for Sharpton:

Texans linebacker Diles to miss Sunday's game
Rookie special teams standout Sharpton to start at outside LB

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – Texans outside linebacker Zac Diles will not play against the New York Jets Sunday at New Meadowlands Stadium.

Diles was unable to practice last week and was sent to the hospital. He was diagnosed with dizziness and heart palpitations. Doctors got it under control, and he's expected back next week when the Texans host Tennessee.

Diles, who is second on the team with 71 tackles, including 52 unassisted, will be replaced by rookie Darryl Sharpton, a fourth-round pick who has excelled on special teams.

Xavier Adibi, who has spent a lot of time on the sideline recently with a hamstring injury, will back up Sharpton.

Sharpton, 5-11, 248, is second on the team in special teams tackles. He'll be playing opposite Brian Cushing, who starts on the strong side.

[chuck]

I've always thought Sharpton can play. I suppose we're about to find out if I was right.

[Arky]

Gametime!

Jets win the toss and elect to defer to the Texans.

JJ bring the kickoff back to the Texans 19.

[Arky]

Schaub can't find anyone open and scrambles for about 3. 2nd and 7 coming up.

Foster for 4. Brings up 3rd and 3.

Pass to KW broken up. Texans have to punt.

Jets bring the punt all the way back to inside the Texans 30. 30 yards on the return.

[Arky]

Pass to Holmes complete for 7. Brings up 2nd and 3.

Jets rush for 4 and get the 1st down. Ball at the Texan 19.

Tomlinson for -1. 2nd and 11 coming up.

Sanchez pass is thown in the direction of LT but inc. Brings up 3rd and 11.

Pass to Keller is inc. Jets to go for the FG.

37 yarder is good.

Jets 3, Texans 0