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Old 05-07-2010, 05:52 PM
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Default Cushing out 4 games for Steroids

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5172060

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Old 05-07-2010, 06:01 PM
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http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b42Xb


I wonder if Darryl Sharpton can play the SAM? I bet Jamar Chaney could.
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Old 05-07-2010, 06:03 PM
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Bob McNair was complaining about the lack of national attention for his Texans. I'm thinking he's now gonna get some media, though obviously not the way he probably had in mind.
All the rumors about Cushing in this area - turns out there was fire with all of that smoke. Obviously his entire rookie season with the awards and all is tarnished by this disclosure.
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Old 05-07-2010, 06:29 PM
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A couple of things, first being no excuses. Whether he took steroids or something on the league's banned list is not clear, many jump to the conclusion that he took steroids. Could be but either way he is tarnished and it hurts the team. Too bad he did not play for the Vikings where the rules seem to not apply. I guess Bentley will take over at Sam and wouldn't you know we have a tough first 4 games. This is great news.
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:13 PM
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I suppose Diles could play the SAM and Marcus Freeman could play the WILL. At least, that's a combo I'd be wanting to see.

Looking at Cushing, I merely assumed he was taking HGH or some other fancy supplement that wouldn't be detected by the steroids test. I thought all of these questions would have been answered before drafting Cushing. That's why I was leaning towards Clay Mathews over Cushing - just seemed like a more legitimate player who didn't use performance enhancing drugs.

We all jumped on the Cushing bandwagon once he started playing well. It just seems out of sequence that we have learned about this issue at this juncture. Did he start AFTER we drafted him? Was it after the regular season?
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:18 PM
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That's why I was leaning towards Clay Mathews over Cushing - just seemed like a more legitimate player who didn't use performance enhancing drugs.
Tut, I won't say that taking Matthews would have been a poor idea, but not for this reasoning though. Matthews (and Cushing) had the rumors of a failed steriod test at the Combine (both were never confirmed). Matthews sorta came out of nowhere for USC to becoming such a highly sought after prospect; Cushing was more legit in that he was the multi-year starter as I recall.


I'm sure this news probably comes as no surprise, sadly, to A LOT of people. And if it was a surprise to the Texans, then shame on them. I think more than anything the team is going to miss his gameday attitude. DeMeco, Pollard, and yes even you Mario are going to need to be loud and strong from the first snap in Week 1. This first game against the Colts, at home, is so crucial to the team this year.
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Old 05-07-2010, 09:08 PM
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We will never know what he took or why. For all we know, it could have been something that is on the banned list that he took trying to heal up. Let's not make assumptions.

Whatever it is, this really hurts the team.
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:03 AM
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One thing I dont like is cheaters..... Especially on my fav team. Also, Diles will replace Cushing and Adibi will replace Diles.
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Old 05-08-2010, 04:09 AM
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Stupid...stupid....stupid....stupid....STUPID!
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Old 05-08-2010, 09:01 AM
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I had reservations about Cushing from the moment he was drafted, as I would have had for Matthews because I just don't think a team should use such a high pick on a 4-3 LB. And since everyone knew of the rumors about both Cushing & Matthews juicing, I assumed the Texans would easily ascertain if they were for real or not ? Guess not though, because it now appears Rick Smith & crew fumbled the ball badly on checking out this guy.
So is our highest expectation at this point for Cushing that he can just stay on the field and play in a reasonably competant manner, or maybe even just legitimately win the starting SAM job ? I mean without the dope, this guy could be very, very average.
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:20 PM
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I agree. The concern shouldn't be for the four games he'll miss but what sort of player we'll see when he comes back. Maybe he'll be happy with his fat contract and just coast through the rest of it like he put one over on the NFL.
I hope not but I could see it happening.
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:26 PM
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Incredibly stupid decision by Cushing.

I also think it is classic revisionist history from everyone saying they had 2nd thoughts on drafting him. I had 2nd thoughts too, but they were about whether he could play. Everyone who had those doubts has been proven wrong. It's sad to try to rewrite that missed call now in the light of this news.

As for whether he can play going forward, who knows. Plenty of guys have been popped for PEDs in the NFL and then played at the same level after without ever testing positive again. Whether they stopped juicing or just got better about the timing/what they were taking, I can't say.

Either way, I'll wait to judge until we see him play again. For one thing I know he made a ton of very instinctual plays all over the field and showed a great football mind that had nothing to do with steroids.

For the Texans' sake, I hope the same guy is on the field for games 5-16 as was on the field last year.
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Old 05-08-2010, 02:05 PM
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I don't think Cushing is stupid enough to take steroids in the PRO's, I'm of the thinking it was another banned substance like a nutritional supplement or a diuretic of some kind, so until we know further, I'm gonna withhold judgment. Knowing Cushing, he'll probably release a statement where he outlines what he ingested.

As for hindsight, I still think Cushing was the best choice for us last year at our selection as he assimilated into the SAM LB so effortlessly. As someone mentioned earlier, I too would have preferred Jamar Chaney, since I feel he can play all three positions respectably. I thought the Sharpton pick was a reach for a supposed ST's player, but I guess we'll all have to wait and see. There is going to be some serious competition in training camp this year for the LB's and DB's.
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Old 05-08-2010, 02:15 PM
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Eh, well, I think there's not much anybody can do at this point. I think over time, fans might probably get an idea on exactly what he tested positive for.....

The guy is such a "Spartan" in his eating and training you have to wonder how much he was effected by whatever it was that was in his system.... I guess we'll find out...

I suppose the silver lining is that now he has a better shot at remaining 100% healthy for 12 games instead of 16......
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Old 05-08-2010, 02:36 PM
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For the Texans' sake, I hope the same guy is on the field for games 5-16 as was on the field last year.
I fail to see how we can even hope for that guy since obviously Cushing himself must have thought he couldn't be him without the dope ?
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Old 05-08-2010, 03:06 PM
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I fail to see how we can even hope for that guy since obviously Cushing himself must have thought he couldn't be him without the dope ?
We can hope for that guy pretty easily.

First, we have no idea what he tested positive for. Second, we have no idea why he took it. Injury recovery is the most common reason guys take steroids in the current pro sports world. It is still clearly cheating, but slightly less on the performance enhancing side. Third, we don't know when he took it and when he didn't.

The bottom line is like I said in my other post. MANY football players get caught using steroids and then play at the same level without ever recording a 2nd positive test. There is not a history of NFL PED busts that would suggest a guy turns into a shell of himself after a positive test. Most continue on with little change.

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Old 05-08-2010, 04:37 PM
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Texans linebacker Brian Cushing issued a statement Saturday about his four-game suspension imposed by the NFL for a violation of its drug policy.

The statement, issued through his agent Tom Condon, reads:
"I was substance-tested randomly by the NFL during the 2009 season. The results of those tests indicated the presence of a non-steroidal banned substance. The League acted to suspend me based on those results, which I challenged in my appeal of the suspension. I believe we presented compelling evidence during the appeal process to challenge the test results, and I disagree with and am disappointed by the suspension. Bound by the decision of the League, I regret the situation it presents to the Texans’ organization, my teammates, and our fans. My dedication to a championship season in 2010 continues undeterred."
Cushing will miss games against Indianapolis, Washington, Dallas and Oakland.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6996420.html
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Old 05-08-2010, 10:14 PM
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My guess: they caught him using a masking agent.

Actually, I think a lot of NFL players use steroids. Based on comments I'm seeing on blogs, I must be in the minority.
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Old 05-09-2010, 04:20 PM
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Cushing doesn't strike me as someone who knows the word "undeterred", much less capable of using it in a sentence. I'm guessing an agent wrote this for him.
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Old 05-09-2010, 07:41 PM
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Cushing doesn't strike me as someone who knows the word "undeterred", much less capable of using it in a sentence. I'm guessing an agent wrote this for him.
That was some funny shit......

Ya know, as sad as it is, I am not really pissed he was a juicer, I mean really, is anyone THAT surprised by this? I am pissed because we are going to lose him for 4 freaking games.....Indy and Dallas included in that bunch. Personally, I don't buy into the whole role model crap. These dudes bash each other for our entertainment, and are paid EXTREMELY well for doing so. Whatever they do with thier bodies is their business, not mine. Just don't get caught!

Side note - Shawn Merriman (sp) was in the same boat as Cush, busted during his rookie year, and he has turned out OK. My hope is he can find something that is legal to keep that roid rage going.
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