Official 2010 NFL Draft Round 4, 5, 6 & 7 Thread

painekiller · #1 04-23-2010, 11:11 PM

We have picks:
4th round 4th (102)
4th round 20th (118)
5th round 13th (144)
6th round 18th (187)
6th round 28th (197)
7th round 20th (227)

Guy I like still available: ***Guys I don't expect but would not mind
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB/FS Indiana, Pennsylvania
Marshall Newhouse OG TCU
Matt Tennant OG Boston College
Kyle Calloway OT Iowa
*** Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma
Cam Thomas DT North Carolina
Reshad Jones FS Georgia
Geno Atkins DT eorgia
*** John Skelton QB Fordham
Robert Johnson FS Utah
***Deji Karim RB Southern Illinois
Shelley Smith OG Colorado State
Jeff Byers OG USC
***Jameson Konz FB Kent State
***Jamar Wall CB Texas Tech

Why I think they don't go with another CB. Jackson and Quin start, McCain, Molden, Reeves and Bennett are all fighting for playing time. Might want to take a late round guy that could be a PS guy or push one of the underachievers off the roster, how many CB did we carry last season?

Why I think they don't go with another RB. Tate, Slaton, Foster, are the front runners, Moats, Jeremiah Johnson, Chris Henry are fighting hard for a job, Johnson looks to be PS guy. They will only start the year with 3 RB on the roster IMO.

Not many OG/C types out there now, but Rick Smith has been doing an excellent job of playing the board, so I am not counting them out of missing one.

Lastly McClain said today he did not think Kevin Matthews would want to be here nor would Bruce want him here, so that most likely means he is here. If we do not sign him as a UDFA ( or he is drafted by someone) he will probably go to Tennessee and play for Munchak.

Roy P · #2 04-23-2010, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

We have picks:
4th round 4th (102)
4th round 20th (118)
5th round 13th (144)
6th round 18th (187)
6th round 28th (197)
7th round 20th (227)

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Ok, Everson Griffen wasn't on my draft board because I expected he'd be overdrafted.....At #102, I just can't pass on him. So, I'm putting him as one of "My Guys" now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNzSE9q0R3k

DE Everson Griffen 6'4" 273 4.65 USC
RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech
DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 5.32 North Carolina
S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
FS Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
RB Deji Karim 5'9" 209 4.40 S. Illinois
OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State
RB James Starks 6' 2" 218 4.50 Buffalo
LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St
CB Walter McFadden 5'11" 181 4.40 Auburn

Arky · #3 04-24-2010, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

Why I think they don't go with another CB. Jackson and Quin start, McCain, Molden, Reeves and Bennett are all fighting for playing time. Might want to take a late round guy that could be a PS guy or push one of the underachievers off the roster, how many CB did we carry last season?

Why I think they don't go with another RB. Tate, Slaton, Foster, are the front runners, Moats, Jeremiah Johnson, Chris Henry are fighting hard for a job, Johnson looks to be PS guy. They will only start the year with 3 RB on the roster IMO.

Not many OG/C types out there now.........

I think you're right on in your assessment of the CB & RB situation.... Just a bunch of talent and potential but the underlying theme is "youth"... (of course, they will probably pick one more of each

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I think they got to "find" something for the interior OL. I mean, Studdard/Myers/Brisiel/Caldwell? You comfortable with that? I'm not. Would at least like to see them hit on a couple of those, perhaps one dedicated center and a guard as insurance against the injury bug... If they don't make the squad stick 'em on the PS...

painekiller · #4 04-24-2010, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Arky

I think you're right on in your assessment of the CB & RB situation.... Just a bunch of talent and potential but the underlying theme is "youth"... (of course, they will probably pick one more of each

)

I think they got to "find" something for the interior OL. I mean, Studdard/Myers/Brisiel/Caldwell? You comfortable with that? I'm not. Would at least like to see them hit on a couple of those, perhaps one dedicated center and a guard as insurance against the injury bug... If they don't make the squad stick 'em on the PS...

Most of the guys I had targeted for the OL have gone.

Here is the list of OL guys from nfl.com that are available

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Name Pos Ht Wt College Grade*Fan Pick* Watch
Campbell, Bruce OT 6'6" 314 Maryland 7.8 23
Capers, Selvish OT 6'4" 308 West Virginia 6.7 --
Ulatoski, Adam OT 6'5" 300 Texas 5.9 --
Washington, TonyOT 6'6" 311 Abilene Christian 5.6 -
Scott, Chris OT 6'4" 319 Tennessee 5.5 --
Calloway, Kyle OT 6'6" 323 Iowa 5.4 --
Young, Sam OT 6'8" 316 Notre Dame 4.7 --
Fox, Jason OT 6'7" 303 Miami 4.6 --
Smith, Shelley OG 6'3" 300 Colorado State 4.4 --
Black, Ciron OT 6'4" 327 LSU 4.0 --
Wang, Ed OT 6'5" 314 Virginia Tech 3.7 --
Carter, Brandon OG 6'6" 329 Texas Tech 3.6 --
Richardson, Dace OG 6'5" 320 Iowa 3.4 --
Olsen, Eric C 6'4" 306 Notre Dame 2.9 --
Petrus, Mitch OG 6'3" 310 Arkansas 2.9 --
Pemberton, Cole OT 6'7" 315 Colorado State 2.8 --
Haslam, Kevin OT 6'5" 304 Rutgers 2.7 --
Brooks, Dorian OG 6'2" 306 James Madison 2.6 --
Tepper, Mike OT 6'5" 324 California 2.6 --
Render, Sergio G 6'3" 311 Virginia Tech 2.5 --
Tennant, Matt C 6'5" 300 Boston College 2.4 --
Kopa, Matt OT -- -- Stanford 2.2 --
Byers, Jeff C 6'3" 301 Southern Cal 2.1 --
Gregory, Kurtis OG 6'4" 305 Missouri 2.1 --
Jolly, Kyle OT 6'6" 311 North Carolina 2.1 --
Cook, Erik C 6'6" 318 New Mexico 2.0 --
Degeare, Chris OT 6'4" 325 Wake Forest 2.0 --
Harewood, Ramon OT 6'7" 360 Morehouse 2.0 --
Hawley, Joe OG 6'3" 297 UNLV 2.0 --
Newhouse, MarshallOT 6'4" 319 TCU 2.0 --
Parsons, Alex OG 6'4" 309 Southern Cal 2.0 --
Richmond, Nic OT 6'8" 309 TCU 2.0 --

Guys in bold I would not complain if they drafted one or two of them.

painekiller · #5 04-24-2010, 03:14 AM

I would not mind Kam Chancellor, Dominique Franks, Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Donovan Warren, Cam Thomas, Vince Oghobaase, or John Skelton.

There I have now jinxed all these guys for us.

Roy P · #6 04-24-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

Most of the guys I had targeted for the OL have gone.

Here is the list of OL guys from nfl.com that are available

Guys in bold I would not complain if they drafted one or two of them.

OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00
OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03
OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26
OC Joe Hawley 6'3" 297 5.21

Roy P · #7 04-24-2010, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

Ok, Everson Griffen wasn't on my draft board because I expected he'd be overdrafted.....At #102, I just can't pass on him. So, I'm putting him as one of "My Guys" now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNzSE9q0R3k

DE Everson Griffen 6'4" 273 4.65 USC

Drew at TheHuddleReport.com

STRENGTHS

Everson is a stand-up DE with excellent speed and change of direction skills to rush the passer. He is strong at the point of attack and does an excellent job using his hands to keep offensive lineman away from his body so that he can get off blocks and make tackles in the run defense. Everson is smart and understands his assignments; he looks to be very coachable along with being a good teammate. Teams using a 3-4 defense should be very interested in drafting Everson because in his college defense, Everson was used as both a down lineman and as a stand up rush the passer DE who played on either side of the defensive line.

NEEDS TO IMPROVE

Although Everson looks and plays at times like a linebacker, he was not used very much in pass coverage and did not do much dropping off the line into passing lanes. He will have to go to the combine and prove that he has those LB abilities if he wants to move up in this draft. From what I see on the field, I think he has those skills but he will have to slim down to see if he can gain some quickness. Everson is fast, but not quick. This means that as a DE in a 4-3, he will have to learn the tricks of the trade and will need good coaching to free him up to rush the passer.

BOTTOM LINE

Everson is a good solid player with excellent overall skills to play in different types of defensive systems. He just doesn't have that lightning quick burst that a true pass rusher needs to have to be the type of player offensive coordinators need to be aware of when game planning. Right now, Everson is an effort DE and if you make a mistake defending him, he will make you pay. He looks on film to be a quality type of kid that every defense needs to be successful. If you team him with the right players, this kid becomes a star. If you are expecting him to be your main man, that might be a mistake on your part. If you are a good coach, you can't lose drafting this kid in any round providing you have enough skill players around him. Personally, I think if he slims down (and this is not a knock on his weight, just an observation), he just might be a hell of a MLB in the right system. I think you have a lot of options with this kid and he could sneak into the first round if his workout numbers are outstanding. In my opinion, I think that he fits the New England Patriots' defensive system really well.

Roy P · #8 04-24-2010, 09:11 AM

There goes E.Griff to the Vikings to go along with Robison and Jared Allen.

TexanJedi · #9 04-24-2010, 09:11 AM

There goes Griffin to the Vikes.

Roy P · #10 04-24-2010, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech
DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 5.32 North Carolina
S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
FS Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah

Do we take Dwyer? Didnt Bob McNair say he wanted 2 RB's? Perhaps we get Big Cam Thomas here to push the pocket. Stuckey is a Strong Safety that I like enough to try at FS. Can we afford to take Atkins after taking Mitchell? Chaney has speed to play the WILL. UGH!!! Can we trade down again?

Nconroe · #11 04-24-2010, 09:17 AM

we are on the clock. I think a guy for OL or safety, who knows.

Keith · #12 04-24-2010, 09:17 AM

LB Darryl Sharpton

undersized LB from Miami.

Roy P · #13 04-24-2010, 09:18 AM

Ok, If I had been running the draft all along, I'm taking Geno Atkins now after selecting Brandon Ghee earlier.

If Rick Smith had died last night and The Texans called me in to take over today, I'd just take Cam Thomas.

Roy P · #14 04-24-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith

LB Darryl Sharpton

undersized LB from Miami.

Underwhelmed with this pick. I think Chaney or Edds would have been better if we wanted a LB. The good thing is, he DOES know how to tackle.

popanot · #15 04-24-2010, 09:26 AM

Should be one hell of a ST player. Potential conversion to SS?? Gotta think either that or they think he can compete with Diles. Honestly, I don't get this pick considering there's still a few decent OL prospects oput there.