Front Office/HC/OC/DC who do you want?

[barrett]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

An idea for if things get much worse. I'd say if we drop 3 games under .500.

[painekiller]

In light of resent articles, what do you think of this mixture?

GM - Floyd Reese - currently with the Pats


HC - Bill Cowher TV

OC - Kyle Shanahan, IMO Kyle want to be his own man, not daddy's son.
DC - Jim Haslett current HC of Florida Tuskers of UFL

[barrett]

Looks good, but if you get a guy like Cowher (which I'd love), then he is going to want to pick his own guys at the coordinator spots and maybe even GM.

[bckey]

If we can pay a player like Dunta Robinson 10 million a year then we can surely pay a coach like Cowher 10 million a year.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by barrett

Looks good, but if you get a guy like Cowher (which I'd love), then he is going to want to pick his own guys at the coordinator spots and maybe even GM.

Haslett used to work with Cowher. Most of the OC guys Cowher worked with are now HCs or secure in their position types.

[edit] Coaching tree

Assistant coaches under Bill Cowher that became Head Coaches in the NFL:

Dom Capers (Carolina Panthers, Houston Texans, and Green Bay Packers)
Chan Gailey (Dallas Cowboys) KC OC
Jim Haslett (New Orleans Saints/St. Louis Rams)
Mike Mularkey (Buffalo Bills) Atlanta Falcons OC
Ken Whisenhunt (Arizona Cardinals)
Dick LeBeau (Cincinnati Bengals)
Marvin Lewis (Cincinnati Bengals)

I also thought about Russ Grimm Asst HC Arizona, and one of Cowher's top guys. And I also thought about Brian Schottenheimer, Bill's former boss' son.

[kravix]

My belief is that Kubiak needs only one more win this season to hold his job.

Rick Smith is very unlikely to get canned along with Kubiak, if it happens.

If a HC change were to occur, unless it is a Cowher or Shanahan, we will definatley lose AJ.

Throwing around the names of 3-4 def minded coaches could mean another 2-3 years of bad def, and our def is just now showing some real signs of life.

Even if Kubes finishes 6-10 this year gimme one more year to see what shakes out. The OC/DC changes we have endured are not very congruent to a stable team.

Everyone is overreacting IMO. Even the best teams and coaches lose games. I would rather have a secure FO and team than another few years of turmoil. For every Sean Peyton there are 5 coaches that dont make it. NO would not be the same team without Brees at all, NE got lucky that a 7th round pick that had little exp turned into a star, and there has only been one and will only ever be one Peyton Manning. The point is most teams take time to build and very little time to destroy.

Cowher is a special coach, there are not 4-5 coaches like him sitting one the waiting list every year waiting to be picked up as the HC for some NFL team. Take the McDonalds feed me now, fast, and screw the consequences attitude, but me I will take the steady improvement route.

You cannot take a teams total win loss record and apply it towards the outcome of a game. The saying "any given Sunday" is real. Comparing the W/L records of teams without comparing the matchups, momentum, and cirumstances is like comparing the Superbowl winning Raiders to the shell of a team they are now.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by painekiller

In light of resent articles, what do you think of this mixture?

HC - Bill Cowher

By recent articles, I assume one of them might be the blog from Jason La Canfora at the NFL Network.

One source close to Cowher believes the compensation could reach the $10 million-per-season range based on early indications. ...

Cowher, who resides in North Carolina, is largely expected to be wooed by the Panthers should they opt not to bring back John Fox for the final season on his deal. The Texans and Bears would excite Cowher as well, according to a source, should they opt to make a move.

Two sources close to Cowher believe he is more ready now than at any time since retiring after the 2006 season to return to coaching, but he will remain very selective about his next move. ...

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/11/23/bill...-coaching-job/

[barrett]

I always figured that the big name guys would be interested in this job and the Cowher article confirms it.

Think about it. Lots of reasons why a coach would be interested.

1. As a head coach what better situation to come into then a very talented team that has underachieved. You don't have to work a miracle to go 10-6 or 11-5 with this bunch next year (they wouldn't have needed one this year, just a kicker and the ability to score on 1st and 1 and we are sitting at 9-1). So you are likely to come out looking good when the team sees the inevitable bump in win total.

2. For a defensive coach especially it is appealing because if you can get a little defensive improvement (which every Defensive coach thinks they can), the offense is already largely in place.

3. You are working for an owner who has been EXTREMELY patient with his first two coaches. You don't have to fear the quick hook. He is also the opposite of meddlesome like you'd have to deal with in Dallas.

4. You are in a manageable cap situation with no missing draft picks in the future.

5. The owner will spend to the max.

6. You get great fan support with a gauranteed sellout every week, but without the negativity and willingness to turn on you that you find in most football towns.

7. Softball local media that will never go after you as long as you give them there "insider" morsels.

Honestly, I don't know of a job that will be open that would be easier to succeed in then this one. If McNair will pony up, we should have our pick of coaches.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by barrett

I always figured that the big name guys would be interested in this job and the Cowher article confirms it.

Think about it. Lots of reasons why a coach would be interested.

1. As a head coach what better situation to come into then a very talented team that has underachieved. You don't have to work a miracle to go 10-6 or 11-5 with this bunch next year (they wouldn't have needed one this year, just a kicker and the ability to score on 1st and 1 and we are sitting at 9-1). So you are likely to come out looking good when the team sees the inevitable bump in win total.

2. For a defensive coach especially it is appealing because if you can get a little defensive improvement (which every Defensive coach thinks they can), the offense is already largely in place.

3. You are working for an owner who has been EXTREMELY patient with his first two coaches. You don't have to fear the quick hook. He is also the opposite of meddlesome like you'd have to deal with in Dallas.

4. You are in a manageable cap situation with no missing draft picks in the future.

5. The owner will spend to the max.

6. You get great fan support with a gauranteed sellout every week, but without the negativity and willingness to turn on you that you find in most football towns.

7. Softball local media that will never go after you as long as you give them there "insider" morsels.

Honestly, I don't know of a job that will be open that would be easier to succeed in then this one. If McNair will pony up, we should have our pick of coaches.

All very valid points but I think it would be disingenuous to state the positives of being a HC in Houston without recognizing any downside.
(1) Houston remains in the hinterlands of NFL franchises. Arguably a big-name coach like Cowher could change that, but even a Bill Parcells said the limelight the Cowboys offered him was a reason to take the job. Houston offers none of that kind of visibility.
(2) Lots of people just don't like the weather here. I know because I don't like the weather here for 'bout 6 months of the year, every year. And being an NFL HC is a 12-month a year job, you live there. It's a reality
whether one likes it or not or is willing to admit it. On the other hand some people like the heat & humidity of the places in the Sun Belt like Houston, Miami, & Tampa. A guy like Cowher can pick and choose when and where he works, but I'm thinkin he's a 4-seasons kinda guy ?
(3) The Texans are stuck in one of the toughest divisions in the NFL and it ain't easy getting by the competition to win the division crown, the least difficult way to going deep into the playoffs. And say what you want about Peytons age, but I'm thinkin he's gonna play forever.

[Dennis2112]

Yeah but what a story for the HOF if Cowher could lead the Texans out of the Hintherlands of the NFL into a legit SB contender?

Seems that would be appealing for a person of Cowher's ego and stature.