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Old 02-26-2009, 06:32 PM
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from chron.com/sports' John McClain

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The Texans extended qualifying offers to five third-year restricted free agents, including tight end Owen Daniels.

Daniels was extended the maximum, which means a team willing to sign him to an offer sheet must part with first- and third-round draft choices if the Texans don’t match.

Others being tendered were receiver David Anderson, offensive tackle Rashad Butler, defensive end Earl Cochran and tight end Joel Dreessen.

The Texans also signed free safety Eugene Wilson to a three-year contract and center Chris White to a one-year contract. The team also agreed to terms with defensive end Stanley McClover.

john.mcclain@chron.com
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Old 02-26-2009, 07:47 PM
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http://www.houstontexans.com/news/St...?story_id=5162

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6283352.html

First, a plea... if anyone catches ANYTHING salary cap related for any Texans player, please post it in the forums or send me an email.

This is the time of year when it is hardest to get info on player bonuses, etc. so any help is appreciated.

Back to the article... McClover was a RFA, so I'm gonna guess that the Texans didn't think he was worth the minimum tender. I think they did this with Anthony Maddox the year he was a RFA.

White was a UFA.

Notable names hitting the open market include: C.C. Brown, Petey Faggins, Mark Bruener, Nick Ferguson, Scott Jackson, Bryan Pittman, Cecil Sapp, and Jeff Zgonina.
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Old 02-26-2009, 08:24 PM
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A little surprised they didn't try to get Ferguson resigned...maybe he didn't like the idea of backing up Barber? Does anyone know what level the other guys besides Daniels were tendered at?
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Old 02-26-2009, 08:32 PM
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Does anyone know what level the other guys besides Daniels were tendered at?
Not yet I don't. NFLPA will post their salaries, so we'll know for sure by some point. Problem is, I think they might not post them until the players sign their tenders, so hopefully we get more info on that soon.

I'd be rather interested in knowing what Anderson's and now Butler's tenders. Anderson was a 7th, and I would guess that someone might be interested in him, not unlike how the Texans were interested in Kevin Walter when they signed him as a 7th round RFA three years ago. Butler was a 3rd round pick... but since he was cut by the Panthers, I can't remember how that works offhand.
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:00 PM
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I'd be rather interested in knowing what Anderson's and now Butler's tenders. Anderson was a 7th, and I would guess that someone might be interested in him, not unlike how the Texans were interested in Kevin Walter when they signed him as a 7th rounf RFA three years ago. Butler was a 3rd round pick... but since he was cut by the Panthers, I can't remember how that works offhand.
I would guess that that Anderson gets the second round tender. He's basically our third receiver, and I think they would want to get back more than a 7th for him if someone offered him a silly contract.

My understanding is that the low tender would get a team a pick in whatever round they were originally drafted in...even if he was drafted by another team. I would think that a third would be enough to keep away most teams, so they could probably get away with the low tender for him. Although I could be wrong about how that works.
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:18 PM
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Aw hell no.

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Receiver David Anderson and defensive end Earl Cochran each got the minimum tender of $1.01 million. That comes with a seventh-round pick attached as compensation for Anderson and no pick connected to Cochran if they got an offer sheer the Texans don't match.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcsouth/...dnight---.html

Tender Right to match Compensation if declined to match
$1.01M Yes Same round as when player originally drafted
$1.545M Yes 2009 second-round draft pick
$2.198M Yes 2009 first-round pick
$2.792M Yes 2009 first- and third-round picks
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:30 PM
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risky on both accounts. Cochran not as much because of the injury last year, but with no draft pick attached someone might come after him. Since I'm assuming we upgrade DE through the draft and/or FA I'm not too worried...I don't think he will get any silly-big contract offers that we couldn't, or wouldn't be willing, to match.

Anderson's filled a role for us last year, and is someone I would assume we want to keep around. Another 500k would be enough to keep everyone away I would assume. I know I would be willing to give up a 7th rounder in a heartbeat if I was trying to find a third or 4th WR.

I really doubt either one gets offered a big enough contract that we wouldn't match, but you never know.
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:47 PM
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For a measley $500k, considering the ample cap space, I would have tendered DA with a 2nd. He has a legit shot at being the WR3 and playing the slot this year imo.

...which is one reason why he might not want to sign a competitve offer sheet from another team. Another would be that he might like playing for Kubiak. And lastly, the "poison pill" is a concern, but only on bigger money deals. Tough to imagine another team going nuts on an offer to DA, but it's a risk, especially considering that the team apparently is shopping Jacoby Jones.
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Old 02-26-2009, 11:06 PM
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For a measley $500k...

. And lastly, the "poison pill" is a concern, but only on bigger money deals. Tough to imagine another team going nuts on an offer to DA, but it's a risk, especially considering that the team apparently is shopping Jacoby Jones.
I don't think anyone is going to break the bank for DA, but depending on what other plans Smith had it might not have to be that big a deal to make us back off. I just don't see why they wouldn't have ponied up another 500K to make sure they don't have to spend a couple more million to keep him around because there's no way a team risk a 2nd for him.

Considering I already consider him my #3 WR, and Jacoby could be on the way out, I don't think a 7th round pick is enough compensation. If we lost DA then the one position were we could get by without making any moves suddenly becomes a need.
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Old 02-26-2009, 11:22 PM
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I think I'll be okay with it if another team wants to sign DA. If we can't find a suitable replacement for DA/WR3 then we're worse off than what I thought.
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Old 02-26-2009, 11:34 PM
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I think I'll be okay with it if another team wants to sign DA. If we can't find a suitable replacement for DA/WR3 then we're worse off than what I thought.
I won't be heartbroken, but finding a WR is often easier said than done.
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Old 02-27-2009, 12:12 AM
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Sounds like low tenders for all but Daniels:

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The Texans would receive a third-round choice for Butler if they declined to match an offer sheet. Carolina drafted him in the third round, and the Texans claimed him off waivers in 2007.

Because Cochran was an undrafted free agent, the Texans have a right of first refusal but would receive no compensation.
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Old 02-27-2009, 12:44 AM
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Speaking of Andre Davis, they really should have tried to utilize him a little more last year..... I know AJ is a hoss, but AD's got some skills and a knack for getting open deep.....
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Old 02-27-2009, 05:26 PM
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I'm a little worried that we might get vonta leach'd with DA. He's shown marked improvement over the past couple years, and he's got a legit shot at seeing a lot more of the field as our third wide receiver. I think he can be a pretty solid slot receiver, and he's got some shakes, like a poor man's wes welker. That said, I'd like to see Jordan Schipley in a Texans uni come next year's draft, as he's got wes welker written all over him, IMO.
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Old 02-27-2009, 05:51 PM
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One of the yahoo's on 610 said that Denver signed Anderson to an offer sheet.
Reverse pipeline???????

I have not been able to find that report.
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Old 02-27-2009, 06:55 PM
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True Enough.

http://www.kffl.com/team/15/nfl

I would say match it. Josh McDaniels thinks he found his replacement Wes Welker.
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