Green Name Cleaning Day [Ahman and Morlon Waived, Weaver Survived Cut] - Page 2

Keith · #21 02-13-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NBT

As for Weaver, I look for him to be a June 1st cut.

No need for June 1 cuts in the last capped year.

The purpose of the June 1 date was to allow teams to forward future years' dead money into the next year's cap. Since 2010 is currently set to be uncapped, the CBA will not allow for this in 2009.

I've got a little something on my thoughts with Weaver that maybe I'll upload to the front page tonight.

ETA - http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20090213.html

Arky · #22 02-14-2009, 01:39 AM

Might be a good chance Weaver sticks around. The way I see it, he could be put in a rotation with "the new guy" with the new guy getting the majority of the snaps. Or perhaps Weaver remains the starter while the new guy learns the NFL via OJT as the backup. However, if this new DE is a 1st rounder, I bet he gets thrown into the fire... Weaver would be an awful expensive backup, then. And what do you do about effort guys like Bulman and Cochran? Less snaps for them? Wouldn't hurt to have them on hand in case of injury to one of the front line guys....

I think it's a given that the Texans are going to pick up a new DE in the draft but what round, who knows?...

nunusguy · #23 02-14-2009, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Arky

Weaver would be an awful expensive backup, then. And what do you do about effort guys like Bulman and Cochran? Less snaps for them? Wouldn't hurt to have them on hand in case of injury to one of the front line guys....

I think it's a given that the Texans are going to pick up a new DE in the draft but what round, who knows?...

How can we justify keeping Weaver around when we've got other DLineman like Bulman & Cochran (and don't forget DelJuan Robinson) who are comparable talents IMO and yet come much cheaper and are younger ? Re drafting a DE, it's a slam-dunk we get one in one of our first 2 picks.
BTW my wife and I are talking about getting a dog and I like DelJuan for its name. Now how many dogs are named DelJuan ? I like it !

Arky · #24 02-14-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy

How can we justify keeping Weaver around when we've got other DLineman like Bulman & Cochran (and don't forget DelJuan Robinson) who are comparable talents IMO and yet come much cheaper and are younger ? Re drafting a DE, it's a slam-dunk we get one in one of our first 2 picks.
BTW my wife and I are talking about getting a dog and I like DelJuan for its name. Now how many dogs are named DelJuan ? I like it !

I don't know. What I do know is that the coaches don't think like a lot of us and that is probably good most of the time. To me, Weaver is unspectacular - seems like his name is never called. To the coaches, they may think he is "solid".

If you haven't read Keith's article, check it out. He gives Weaver the benefit of the doubt regarding his possibly playing a couple of years while nursing injury....it is a plausible scenario...

nunusguy · #25 02-14-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Arky

I don't know. What I do know is that the coaches don't think like a lot of us and that is probably good most of the time. To me, Weaver is unspectacular - seems like his name is never called. To the coaches, they may think he is "solid".

If you haven't read Keith's article, check it out. He gives Weaver the benefit of the doubt regarding his possibly playing a couple of years while nursing injury....it is a plausible scenario...

I can't see how they keep Weaver unless they materially restructure his contract ?

Bigtinylittle · #26 02-14-2009, 08:12 PM

Nice writeup Keith.

I swear I heard Weaver in a radio interview a few months ago say he will never be 100% again. He didn't go into details.

Keith · #27 02-14-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy

I can't see how they keep Weaver unless they materially restructure his contract ?

The damage is already done. He costs $3.5 in payroll to keep on the roster this season. Either the Texans feel comfortable in whoever replaces him, or they pay him for one more season and hope for the best.

With $30mm or so in cap room, there is no cap need to restructure. Weaver isn't a game-to-game injury risk like Ahman Green, so restructuring his base to bonus won't really save much, if anything. Weaver would simply have to want to accept less with little-to-no money guaranteed and assume he couldn't do better as a free agent if he refused.

Perhaps the biggest risk to the team in keeping him thru the offseason and camps would be for Weaver to get injured in "non-contact" OTAs (haha, it hurts to laugh at this) or mini- and training camp, which would send him and his salary to the injured reserve. Even still, the Texans would likely try to settle with him should that happen.

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Originally Posted by Bigtinylittle

Nice writeup Keith.

I swear I heard Weaver in a radio interview a few months ago say he will never be 100% again. He didn't go into details.

Thanks.

I hadn't heard that myself, but it's tough to know what to make of it. There probably aren't many who are "100%" at 29 years, just goes with the sport... but if there's more to it than that, then I'd be even more surprised that Weaver is still with the team.

painekiller · #28 02-17-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith

I hadn't heard that myself, but it's tough to know what to make of it. There probably aren't many who are "100%" at 29 years, just goes with the sport... but if there's more to it than that, then I'd be even more surprised that Weaver is still with the team.

I remember some chatter around the time he said this, and I think your correct, no NFL player who is 29 is ever 100% again. The game is just to brutal.