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Old 02-09-2009, 04:22 PM
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Huh ? Jerry is obviously wasted in a 3-4 !
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:58 PM
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I hope Draftek is wrong in what is available in some rounds. Based on their consensus, I would pick:

1. Aaron Maybin
2. Paul Kruger
3. Andy Levitre
4. Nic Harris
5. Pat White
6. Devin Moore
7. Gartrell Johnson

I know White is really small, but he had great pocket presence, NFL arm and electrifying feet in the Senior Bowl. He really wants to play QB. He could eventually be our backup qb, after this next season. I think Kubiak could use him in spots as a change of pace. Again, if he could keep from getting killed, he is quite a weapon.

Maybin, I think, would be high risk, high reward. I think Kruger in the 2nd would be excellent.

Devin Moore is small, but with great speed. Could rotate in for Slaton some. I think Gartrell Johnson would be a good value pick at 7. A 7th round pick that could actuall see the field next year.

UFA - Jeremy Childs. I actually think Childs will be drafted after his combine. And I think he will run the 40 in the 4.4's. This guy catches every type of pass. He comes down with the ball with defenders hanging all over him. He runs very crisp routes and can run away from most db's. He caught 80+ passes in 07 and 70+ passes in 08.
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Old 02-09-2009, 05:13 PM
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Methinks maybin is a little light in the butt for a 4-3 DE. He would fit best as a LB in a 3-4 set IMO.

He also got somewhat exposed at the Combine where he didn't do too well on some of the drills.
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Old 02-09-2009, 05:17 PM
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Methinks maybin is a little light in the butt for a 4-3 DE. He would fit best as a LB in a 3-4 set IMO.

Well, that was one of the rounds I hope Draftek is wrong about who is available for us.
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Old 02-09-2009, 05:19 PM
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Methinks maybin is a little light in the butt for a 4-3 DE. He would fit best as a LB in a 3-4 set IMO.
Do you ever watch the games when Indy plays us. Maybin is larger than Mathis, who plays on the strong side DE on passing downs. If they identify him as a very good pass rusher, I don't think the fact that his size might force him off the field during short yardage is an issue at all!
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:44 PM
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Do you ever watch the games when Indy plays us. Maybin is larger than Mathis, who plays on the strong side DE on passing downs. If they identify him as a very good pass rusher, I don't think the fact that his size might force him off the field during short yardage is an issue at all!
Dale, we've bumped heads before on issues. We just don't see things the same way. But I will say that right now, as Drafts go, Kubiak and Smith are no Dungy and Polian!
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Old 02-18-2009, 06:58 PM
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Dale, we've bumped heads before on issues. We just don't see things the same way. But I will say that right now, as Drafts go, Kubiak and Smith are no Dungy and Polian!

Perhaps Maybin won't be a good DE. I honestly don't know. What I do know, and what the Mathis example proves, is that a DE can be effective and weigh around 240 lbs. I just don't want players dismissed simply because of a three digit number. I would hope that our talent evaluaters and coaches take a broader perspective when shaping the team and don't have silly guidelines like weight and heighth minimums.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:20 PM
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Perhaps Maybin won't be a good DE.

I would hope that our talent evaluaters and coaches take a broader perspective when shaping the team and don't have silly guidelines like weight and heighth minimums.
Guidelines are simply there to be used as a reference. There are always exceptions to the rule, that doesn't make the rule a bad thing. Just something to keep in mind when looking at a player that doesn't fit the 'mold' that we've seen be successful before.
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Old 02-09-2009, 05:17 PM
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I hope Draftek is wrong in what is available in some rounds. Based on their consensus, I would pick:

1. Aaron Maybin
2. Paul Kruger
3. Andy Levitre
4. Nic Harris
5. Pat White
6. Devin Moore
7. Gartrell Johnson

I know White is really small, but he had great pocket presence, NFL arm and electrifying feet in the Senior Bowl. He really wants to play QB. He could eventually be our backup qb, after this next season. I think Kubiak could use him in spots as a change of pace. Again, if he could keep from getting killed, he is quite a weapon.

Maybin, I think, would be high risk, high reward. I think Kruger in the 2nd would be excellent.

If we got both Maybin and Kruger, I'd be ecstatic!- regardless of what happened the rest of the draft.
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Old 02-10-2009, 04:35 AM
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I hope Draftek is wrong in what is available in some rounds. Based on their consensus, I would pick:

1. Aaron Maybin
2. Paul Kruger
3. Andy Levitre
4. Nic Harris
5. Pat White
6. Devin Moore
7. Gartrell Johnson

I know White is really small, but he had great pocket presence, NFL arm and electrifying feet in the Senior Bowl. He really wants to play QB. He could eventually be our backup qb, after this next season. I think Kubiak could use him in spots as a change of pace. Again, if he could keep from getting killed, he is quite a weapon.

Maybin, I think, would be high risk, high reward. I think Kruger in the 2nd would be excellent.

Devin Moore is small, but with great speed. Could rotate in for Slaton some. I think Gartrell Johnson would be a good value pick at 7. A 7th round pick that could actuall see the field next year.

UFA - Jeremy Childs. I actually think Childs will be drafted after his combine. And I think he will run the 40 in the 4.4's. This guy catches every type of pass. He comes down with the ball with defenders hanging all over him. He runs very crisp routes and can run away from most db's. He caught 80+ passes in 07 and 70+ passes in 08.
I really like that draft alot. If I were drafting my would go like this.

1. Jeremy Maclin WRF Missouri

All the impact D players are all gone so Im going BPA. Having that kind of speed opposite AJ is just too good to pass up. Lets see teams double AJ now.

2. Donald Brown RB Connecticut

This was a tough choice. Im very high on Victor Harris CB Virginia Tech. He is a playmaker at a position of need but Donald Brown will contribute more this year and Kubiack is in the win now or begone mode. Our offense depends on the run too much to go into the season without a real quality backup for the smallish Slaton.

3. Jarron Gilbert DE San Jose St

Finnally I go D. @ 6'6" 280 he squats 635 and deadlifts 655 and with a quick first step this guy could be a steal in the third round if coached up right.

4. Emanuel Cook SS South Carolina

I know we need a FS more but this guy is too good to pass up in the 4th round. He has been compared to Bob Sanders.

5. Sammie Lee Hill DT Stillman

A project for sure but at 6'4" 328 and very athletic he is well worth a 5th round pick. Interesting side note, once pulled a man from a burning house.

6. Greg Isdaner OG West Virginia

Allready trained in the same ZB scheme we use and very good at it. Were vey lucky to get solid depth lioke this in the 6th round.

7. Gartrell Johnson RB Colorado State

Another late round value. Hey I know I already used one pick on the RB position but like I said earlier, our O depends on the run. If we cant run, we cant win. Example A: The 2008 Denver Broncos.
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