Official Senior Bowl Thread

[barrett]

Originally Posted by jppaul

Again we will disagree, and I will agree to disagree in order to stop wasting other readers time, with our disagreement.

On another note, some of the WLB's who do make an impact inlcude: Derrick Brooks, Lance Briggs, A.J. Hawk, Keith Bulluck, etc.

None of the FS prospects seem to be worth the #15 pick, and although several of the D-line prospects are worth that pick, I would go a different direction.

I agree with all of that and hope we can trade down.

As for WLBs I agreed with you. I said that although it is not a big impact position, the guys who play it great are impact players.

As for wasting other reader's time, its the offseason and I think we may just be talking to each other.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by barrett

As for wasting other reader's time, its the offseason and I think we may just be talking to each other.

Nah, it's kind of like watching tennis.

As for trading down, I am still hopeful for big time player to come to us. Last year it was Branden Albert who was not suppose to last. In 2005 it was Derrick Johnson. In 04 there was D.J. Williams and Will Smith. Perhaps this year Raji will still be on the board or maybe Everette Brown. It always seems as if getting a 1st round RB is a pretty decent choice in this area, maybe LeSean McCoy, Knowshon Moreno, or Donald Brown. My personal favorite is Aaron Curry, but that's just me. For the record, I'd play him at the WILL.

[jppaul]

Originally Posted by barrett

I agree with all of that and hope we can trade down.

As for WLBs I agreed with you. I said that although it is not a big impact position, the guys who play it great are impact players.

As for wasting other reader's time, its the offseason and I think we may just be talking to each other.

Yeah but is there anything more annoying than two people standing around beating a dead horse for weeks?

[jppaul]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Nah, it's kind of like watching tennis.

As for trading down, I am still hopeful for big time player to come to us. Last year it was Branden Albert who was not suppose to last. In 2005 it was Derrick Johnson. In 04 there was D.J. Williams and Will Smith. Perhaps this year Raji will still be on the board or maybe Everette Brown. It always seems as if getting a 1st round RB is a pretty decent choice in this area, maybe LeSean McCoy, Knowshon Moreno, or Donald Brown. My personal favorite is Aaron Curry, but that's just me. For the record, I'd play him at the WILL.

Man every mock I have seen and every draft ranking board has him somewhere around the top 5. I would be happy to play him at will.

What about drafting Malualaga and moving DRyan over to Will, where he can make more impact plays and could possibly stay healthy for an entire season.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by jppaul

What about drafting Malualaga and moving DRyan over to Will, where he can make more impact plays and could possibly stay healthy for an entire season.

Talk about kicking a dead horse, there has been much discussion on moving Ryans to the WILL after drafting (insert favorite MLB here) to take on larger OL and attacking the RB.

I will say once again that my perspective is that DeMeco is most productive at the MLB position and does not have the athleticism to chase plays from the WLB. The best way to keep our MIKE healthy would be to improve the DL in front of him. Maybe Jeff Zgonina will retire and just start coaching. Maybe Frank Okam will get a fire lit under his ass by Coach Kollar or simply go to Law School. I wonder if we could trade Travis Johnson or at least get him to play better than DelJuan Robinson. Okoye had a whopping 24 tackles.

Just as a painful reminder, does anybody remember when the Texans traded for WR Eric Moulds? I was upset that we gave away a 4th round pick, that same pick was utilized on a guy that I liked from LSU DT Kyle Williams. Well coach Kollar took a 4th round effort guy and had him post 53, 41, and 55 tackles the last 3 seasons. I'm hopeful we'll get something like that from our DTs. The guy next to him, Marcus Stroud, had 45 tackles.

If I compare them to the Eagles, Brodrick Bunkley had 47 tackles and Mike Patterson slipped down to 42 tackles after posting 67 the year before.

Anyway, we can talk about how much money we've already spent on the DL and if it is a good idea to draft a player like Jeria Perry, BJ Raji, Sen'Derrick Marks, etc. However, until the DL starts performing, it won't matter who we have in the LB corps or the Secondary.

[gunslinger57]

For our draftniks I wanted to ask for a scouting report.

While channel surfing I ran into the callege football skills event on ESPN, or whatever it's called, and saw the receivers and Ramses Barden. I know our record with small school WRs isn't good, and I'm not advocating taking an offensive player in the first 3 or 4 rounds unless someone inexplicably falls, but what's the story on him, and where does he project in the draft? I know WR isn't a "need" position for the Texans, but a 6'6", 230 lb. target opposite AJ is an intriguing notion.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by gunslinger57

For our draftniks I wanted to ask for a scouting report.

While channel surfing I ran into the callege football skills event on ESPN, or whatever it's called, and saw the receivers and Ramses Barden.

I know WR isn't a "need" position for the Texans, but a 6'6", 230 lb. target opposite AJ is an intriguing notion.

Let me give you some names....
Brian Poli-Dixon - 6'5" 210lb 4.48 UCLA 2002
Tyrone Calico - 6'4" 223lbs 4.34 Middle Tenn State 2003
Reggie Williams - 6'4" 225lbs 4.62 Washington 2004
Mike Williams - 6'5" 229lbs 4.56 USC 2005
Maurice Stovall - 6'5" 217lbs 4.57 Notre Dame 2006

Don't get too enamored with the height is the point I'm making. A WR needs to be able to get separation and catch the ball. Ramses Barden can't really do either. He was horrid during the Senior Bowl week practices. The only time I saw him make a catch was when he went up against SS prospects who aren't really going to be covering a WR man-to-man. Barden is suspected to go in the 4th round. We'd be better off getting short, but effective, Mike Thomas from Arizona to play the slot WR and return specialist.

[gunslinger57]

Yeah I know I know. Just the thought of having a huge target opposite AJ and Walters killing people underneath in 3 WR sets makes me feel funny.