Official Senior Bowl Thread

[mussop]

QB N 6
Graham Harrell Texas Tech

QB N 7
Rhett Bomar Sam Houston State

QB N 10
Nathan Brown Central Arkansas

QB S 10
Cullen Harper Clemson

QB S 14
John Parker Wilson Alabama

QB S 5
Pat White West Virginia

RB N 23
Kory Sheets Purdue

RB N 24
Jeremiah Johnson Oregon

RB N 37
Cedric Peerman Virginia

RB N 36
Eric Kettani Navy

RB S 22
James Davis Clemson

RB S 23
Rashad Jennings Liberty

RB S 24
Andre Brown North Carolina State

RB S 27
Arian Foster Tennessee

FB N 43
Tony Fiammetta Syracuse

FB S 45
Quinn Johnson LSU

WR N 1
Brooks Foster North Carolina

WR N 2
Derrick Williams Penn State

WR N 4
Brandon Gibson Washington State

WR N 9
Juaquin Iglesias Oklahoma

WR N 11
Ramses Barden Cal Poly

WR N 80
Brian Robiskie Ohio State

WR S 1
Mo Massaquoi Georgia

WR S 4
Mike Thomas Arizona

WR S 6
Quan Cosby Texas

WR S 7
Patrick Turner Southern Califrnia

WR S 9
Mike Wallace Mississippi

WR S 11
Kenny McKinley South Carolina

TE N 82
Connor Barwin Cincinnati

TE N 85
John Phillips Virginia

TE N 87
Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma State

TE S 81
Shawn Nelson Southern Mississippi

TE S 83
Travis McCall Alabama

TE S 85
Anthony Hill North Carolina State

C N 51
Alex Mack California

C N 60
Max Unger Oregon

C N 72
Ryan Shuman Virginia Tech

C S 59
Antoine Caldwell Alabama

C S 60
Eric Wood Louisville

C S 63
Jonathan Luigs Arkansas

OG N 63
Kraig Urbik Wisconsin

OG N 66
Andy Levitre Oregon State

OG N 76
Trevor Canfield Cincinnati

OG S 71
Tyronne Green Auburn

OG S 75
Anthony Parker Tennessee

OG S 79
Herman Johnson LSU

OT N 64
William Beatty UConn

OT N 68
Xavier Fulton Illinois

OT N 79
Phil Loadholt Oklahoma

OT S 76
Troy Kropog Tulane

OT S 77
Jason Watkins Florida

OT S 74
Michael Oher Mississippi

DT N 90
B.J. Raji Boston College

DT N 92
Ron Brace Boston College

DT N 94
Ziggy Hood Missouri

DT S 75
Fili Moala Southern California

DT S 90
Corey Irvin Georgia

DT S 98
Peria Jerry Mississippi

DT S 99
Vance Walker Georgia Tech

DE/T N 81
Will Johnson Illinois

DE N 51
Larry English Northern Illinois

DE N 52
Cody Brown UConn

DE N 91
Tim Jamison Mchigan

DE/T N 97
Mitch King Iowa

DE S 84
Kyle Moore Southern California

DE S 91
Robert Ayers Tennessee

DE S 92
David Veikune Hawaii

DE S 95
Lawrence Sidbury Richmond

LB/DB N 5
Nik Harris Oklahoma

LB N 40
Scott McKillop Pittsburgh

LB N 50
Clint Sintim Virginia

LB N 54
Tyrone McKenzie South Florida

LB N 55
Marcus Feeman Ohio State

LB N 56
Zack Follett California

LB S 10
Brian Cushing Southern California

LB S 11
Ashlee Palmer Mississippi

LB/DE S 47
Clay Matthews Southern California

LB S 48
Darry Beckwith LSU

LB S 58
Rey Maualuga Southern California

LB S 59
Moise Fokou Maryland

CB N 1
Darius Butler UConn

CB N 4
Victor 'Macho' Harris Virginia Tech

CB N 6
DeAngelo Smith Cincinnati

CB N 16
Keenan Lewis Oregon State

CB N 17
Mike Mickens Cincinnati

CB S 1
Coye Francies San Jose State

CB S 2
Alphonso Smith Wake Forest

CB S 4
Ellis Langster West Virgina

CB S 16
Domonique Johnson Jackson State

CB S 6
Sherrod Martin Troy

S N 11
William Moore Missouri

S N 15
Patrick Chung Oregon

S N 25
Louis Delmas Western Michigan

S N 27
David Bruton Notre Dame

S S 3
Derek Pegues Mississippi State

S S 9
Chip Vaughn Wake Forest

S S 25
Michael Hamlin Clemson

S S 49
Rashad Johnson Alabama

P N 47
Kevin Huber Cincinnati

P S 15
Thomas Morsted SMU

PK N 35
Louie Sakoda Utah

PK S 40
Patrick McAfee West Virginia

LS N 57
Mark Estermeyer Pittsburgh

LS S 57
Jake Ingram Hawaii

[jppaul]

Man I am excited, this is gonna be sweet. Unlike previous years though I am not sure I see a definitive top 10er. There are some candidates of course, with Malualaga, Oher and Raji, but not surefire top ten prospects.

[Keith]

I am pretty excited to watch the practices. They are airing (beginning with practice day 1 today) on the NFL Network. If you miss it, try to catch Path to the Draft for recaps. There is one on tonight at 7pm CT (with repeats at 11:30p and 9a the next morning).

Official Senior Bowl website: http://www.seniorbowl.com/

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Keith

I am pretty excited to watch the practices.

Official Senior Bowl website: http://www.seniorbowl.com/

Well, Raji was an impressive big dude in the middle. I'd imagine some 3-4 team is going to like what he offers before #15.

I liked seeing DE/OLB Cody Brown getting in the backfield in the 11 on 11 drills. He also got swallowed a couple of times by Loadholt on the one on one.

DE Will Davis also made me happy.

Both Unger and Mack are pretty decent at C.

Ron Brace is a bull rusher, but I still need to see some more.

Ziggy Hood was doing his Freeny spin move on the interior.

I didn't see too much to comment upon about the Secondary or LBs.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Well, Raji was an impressive big dude in the middle. I'd imagine some 3-4 team is going to like what he offers before #15.

I liked seeing DE/OLB Cody Brown getting in the backfield in the 11 on 11 drills. He also got swallowed a couple of times by Loadholt on the one on one.

DE Will Davis also made me happy.

Both Unger and Mack are pretty decent at C.

Ron Brace is a bull rusher, but I still need to see some more.

Ziggy Hood was doing his Freeny spin move on the interior.

I didn't see too much to comment upon about the Secondary or LBs.

Ditt o on the observations.

The hard part about watching the TV, was they are talking about helments, and Raji is going one on one with Mack. They missed it.

I do not care about the QBs, first off the guys they have in Mobile are not guys we will be considering, most sports fans only want to know about the QBs, so that is what they talk about. Chicks dig QBs.

We're in a minority at this site. We want to guess the teams UDFA signing in January.

Brace is a bull rusher and that is all he is. But he always seemed to be moving his man backwards. Remember his position, NT is about lower body strength, and he has that.

I have been in envy of Ziggy Hood, that man is special, and currently he is not a top pick, What if we wanted to take Raji in the 1st and Hood in the 3rd? That would give you some rotational possibilities at DTs that would challenge offenses. Raji/Okoye, Okoye/Hood, Okam/Raji. Pick your poison. Not what I am thinking will happen, but it does make me think ...

Where the LBs even there today?

[Keith]

Given the geographic drafting tendencies of Dale Strahm, the team's college scouting director, I think we can narrow down the list of players we should watch this week...

Originally Posted by mussop

QB S 10 Cullen Harper Clemson
QB S 14 John Parker Wilson Alabama
QB S 5 Pat White West Virginia
RB N 37 Cedric Peerman Virginia
RB S 22 James Davis Clemson
RB S 23 Rashad Jennings Liberty
RB S 24 Andre Brown North Carolina State
WR N 1 Brooks Foster North Carolina
WR S 1 Mo Massaquoi Georgia
WR S 11 Kenny McKinley South Carolina
TE N 85 John Phillips Virginia
TE S 83 Travis McCall Alabama
TE S 85 Anthony Hill North Carolina State
C N 72 Ryan Shuman Virginia Tech
C S 59 Antoine Caldwell Alabama
DT S 90 Corey Irvin Georgia
DT S 99 Vance Walker Georgia Tech
LB N 50 Clint Sintim Virginia
CB N 4 Victor 'Macho' Harris Virginia Tech
CB S 2 Alphonso Smith Wake Forest
CB S 4 Ellis Langster West Virgina
CB S 6 Sherrod Martin Troy
S S 9 Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
S S 25 Michael Hamlin Clemson
S S 49 Rashad Johnson Alabama
PK S 40 Patrick McAfee West Virginia

Seems safe to say a couple of these guys will be high on the team's draft boards very soon.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Keith

Given the geographic drafting tendencies of Dale Strahm, the team's college scouting director, I think we can narrow down the list of players we should watch this week...



Seems safe to say a couple of these guys will be high on the team's draft boards very soon.

Originally Posted by mussop

QB S 14 John Parker Wilson Alabama
RB S 22 James Davis Clemson
RB S 23 Rashad Jennings Liberty
RB S 24 Andre Brown North Carolina State
WR N 1 Brooks Foster North Carolina
WR S 1 Mo Massaquoi Georgia
WR S 11 Kenny McKinley South Carolina
C S 59 Antoine Caldwell Alabama
DT S 90 Corey Irvin Georgia
DT S 99 Vance Walker Georgia Tech
LB N 50 Clint Sintim Virginia
CB S 2 Alphonso Smith Wake Forest
S S 9 Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
S S 25 Michael Hamlin Clemson
S S 49 Rashad Johnson Alabama


I figured that I would narrow down the list to guys that meet my eyeball filter.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Ditt o on the observations.

The hard part about watching the TV, was they are talking about helments, and Raji is going one on one with Mack. They missed it.

I do not care about the QBs, first off the guys they have in Mobile are not guys we will be considering, most sports fans only want to know about the QBs, so that is what they talk about. Chicks dig QBs.

We're in a minority at this site. We want to guess the teams UDFA signing in January.

Brace is a bull rusher and that is all he is. But he always seemed to be moving his man backwards. Remember his position, NT is about lower body strength, and he has that.

I have been in envy of Ziggy Hood, that man is special, and currently he is not a top pick, What if we wanted to take Raji in the 1st and Hood in the 3rd? That would give you some rotational possibilities at DTs that would challenge offenses. Raji/Okoye, Okoye/Hood, Okam/Raji. Pick your poison. Not what I am thinking will happen, but it does make me think ...

Where the LBs even there today?

My dam dvr didnt record the first practice. The path to the draft was a joke. What waste of time. Can anyone tell me how Raji and Unger looked. I would appreciate it.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by mussop

My dam dvr didnt record the first practice. The path to the draft was a joke. What waste of time. Can anyone tell me how Raji and Unger looked. I would appreciate it.

Raji won most of his battles, but the one on one drill for linemen is by nature defense freindly. IMO Raji looks very solid.

Unger and Mack both held their own, both got beat, but both also had a couple battles they won. Mack's knees braces could be a concern, also he did not appear as quick footed as I had hoped. But I freely admit, I need to watch him much closer before dismissing him.

The DT that jumped off the screen was Ziggy Hood, from Mizzou.

Not a full report but at least it's something.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Raji won most of his battles, but the one on one drill for linemen is by nature defense freindly. IMO Raji looks very solid.

Unger and Mack both held their own, both got beat, but both also had a couple battles they won. Mack's knees braces could be a concern, also he did not appear as quick footed as I had hoped. But I freely admit, I need to watch him much closer before dismissing him.

The DT that jumped off the screen was Ziggy Hood, from Mizzou.

Not a full report but at least it's something.

THANK YOU!!! Any report is appreciated.

[painekiller]

Just a few quickies about the morning practice.

William Moore - another practice like he had today and I erase his name. What happen to this kid?

Patrick Chung -Boy was I wrong about him being a Roy Williams type, the kid can cover. He is now jumping to the top of my S list.

Another player who is rising up my list is Macho Harris. Solid in coverage, press coverage at least. He is a player.

The OL looked better in one on one drills today.

Running back from Purdue, Kory Sheets is someone we need to keep our eyes on. He is competitor.

[bono]

it'd also be great to have a DB named MACHO

[papabear]

A quick report from SI-

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ay1/index.html


Rashad Jennings/RB/Liberty sounds interesting. I know nothing about him other than this report:

Rashad Jennings/RB/Liberty: Jennings is the top small school player in Mobile this week and proved as much in Day 1. His 234-pound frame looked impressive this morning during weigh-ins, then Jennings looked athletic and fast on the field at practice. He has a burst through the hole and looks frighteningly powerful running in the open field. Jennings also caught the ball well and stood out in blocking drills.

[painekiller]

A few more notes from my observations.

Morning: If we needed a true TE, then Brandon Pettigrew would be our pick at #15. The man is a blocking machine, and he can get up field, solid player who we do not need.

A guy we might look at Andy Levitre, OT Oregon St.. He will be a middle guy at the next level, might be able to transfer to OC.

Another guy lower in the draft that looked solid was Ryan Shuman VTech, he is another OC/OG type. He looked solid in the 1 on 1.

A guy we probable do not draft, but who will be a player is Mitch King, DT Iowa. He is undersized but he is so quick, only Ziggy Hood has looked quicker in the middle.

Afternooon Notes:
Andre Brown RB NC St. a 2nd day guy? who could be a solid #2 RB. He weighs 228lbs ,and showed a good burst through the hole.

Rashad Johnson S Alabama, the kid is a player, he is my #2 safety behind Chung. Yes Moore has dropped that much in my eyes.

Rey Maualuga was man handled by Shawn Nelson TE Southern Miss. Nelson is known as a pass catcher, not a blocker, and he handled Rey Rey twice IIRC.

I am not impressed by Rey Rey at all. Cushing is a stud, not sure if I want him at #15, but he will be a player. I missed this in my notes about the East West Game, but since I am talking about the USC guys, did anybody else notice Kaluka Maiava ,the other OLB. He might be a 2nd day steal, and he is a smart player on the field.

I get frustrated by the TV coverage, but it is better than no coverage.

Am I the only one watching?

[nunusguy]

Player College Height Weight Arm Hand
• Brian Cushing USC 6031 243 31 3/4 9 7/8
Notes: Impressive with a strong, muscular build.
• Clay Matthews USC 6030 246 32 9 3/8
Notes: Cut with good muscle structure.
• Rey Maualuga USC 6017 254 31 5/8 10
Notes: Disappointing with a small lower body.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/featur...s/Weigh-In.php
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draftcountdown.com always offers some interesting info from the Senior-Bowl weigh-in each year, including weigh-in stats for the players with a very brief narrative about each. For example, in comparing the LBs looks like would-be stud Maualuga is less impressive than his USC teammates ?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I get frustrated by the TV coverage, but it is better than no coverage.

Am I the only one watching?

Nope, and I too get frustrated. I've thought about sending the NFL Network an e-mail about it. The way I see it, people who are watching PRACTICE don't need all of the 2.0 explanations that Charles Davis and Mayock go through.

They spend so much time discussing the difficulties of projecting college Spread offense players to the NFL. I like Phil Savage, but they can show me players while I listen to him talk.

I want to see the players doing stuff and the announcers discussing what's going on on the field.

Personally, Robert Ayers looked like a 3-Down DE to me. Now that we have a DL coach who had Kelsay and Schobel, I wouldn't be surprised if we went after Orapko, Everette Brown, or Aaron Maybin in the 1st round. I also wonder if that means Raji goes down the Texans' draft board. On the other hand, the Bills did get Marcus Stroud. In my opinion, Darryl Richard and Sen'Derrick Marks probably move up the Texans' board.

As for Jennings, I saw Cushing light him up. If we didn't play the Colts twice a year, I would love to have Cushing as the SAM. I just wonder if he slips to the 2nd round like Posluszny.

William Moore has got to be hurting from that torn labrum. He's simply not playing like he did last season. In my mind, Keith Fitzhugh is my SS and Rashad Johnson is my FS. Chung reminds me of a smaller Aaron Rouse, now with the Packers.

Michael Oher showed he has to be more consistent against speed rushers. However, once he gets hands on a guy, it's over.

If Shawn Nelson is a 4th round pick, then he better be our 4th round pick.

Antoine Caldwell looked impressive to me again. I can't wait until game day to see what he does vs. Raji.

Mike Thomas has made the trip from the Shrine game and looks like Eddie Royal.

Alphonso Smith is small and may be a liability vs. the run, but covers like Sherwin Williams. Dominique Johnson is what I think is a Texans prototype CB.

I've never been a Rey Rey fan, and today didn't change my opinion.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Now that we have a DL coach who had Kelsay and Schobel, I wouldn't be surprised if we went after Orapko, Everette Brown, or Aaron Maybin in the 1st round.

You're suggesting that Kollar has the juice with Smith/Kubiak to induce them
to trade-up to get his man in the first round ?

[papabear]

I watched the re-cap last night. They were really hard on Rey-Rey. Said he showed up and looked and acted out of shape and that he was very rusty. Cushing on the other hand looks like the perfect SAM for us.


I have been really disappointed with Moore this year. If he drops a few rounds he might end up being a steal, but at this point it sounds like he would be just another run support safety without good ball skills. We've got plenty of those already.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by papabear

I have been really disappointed with Moore this year. If he drops a few rounds he might end up being a steal, but at this point it sounds like he would be just another run support safety without good ball skills. We've got plenty of those already.

He was terrible in the bowl game Mizzou played against Oregon (I think that's who they played ?). On the other hand, Mizzou LB Weatherspoon was sensational IMO. But I gather he's not a senior as I don't think he's been invited to this game ? Actually, if he's an underclassmen I dunno if he even
declared, but he put on quite a performance in the bowl game (unlike the safety, Moore).

[papabear]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

He was terrible in the bowl game Mizzou played against Oregon (I think that's who they played ?). On the other hand, Mizzou LB Weatherspoon was sensational IMO. But I gather he's not a senior as I don't think he's been invited to this game ? Actually, if he's an underclassmen I dunno if he even
declared, but he put on quite a performance in the bowl game (unlike the safety, Moore).

He also made me look stupid when they came to Austin too. I was sitting in the stands and telling everyone that we needed to look out for Moore...right before he gave up a big play, and looked very bad doing it. Every time he got beat I had to hear about it. I'm a Horns fan so it was great then, but he lost some of his luster too me that night.