Schaub Out A Month

[nero THE zero]

Originally Posted by edo783

In watching the Sage interview on the main site at least he realizes he makes some bad decisions. Now will he be able to change since he has identified the problem is the question. If he can keep from making the stupid decisions, he can do well. He is, IIRC, better than Matt in the 15-20 yard range, but not as good with the long ball.

If a person with an IQ of 75 becomes aware of their intellectual deficiency, it doesn't mean they're on the way to MENSA membership.

Rosenfels is what he is. He's been that way for 8 years and he'll be that way for 8 more weeks.

[nunusguy]

This whole thing with the QBs and getting them creamed Sunday after Sunday after Sunday seems to be a page Kubiak got right out of the
Capers playbook: bring a rookie and/or very inexperienced guy in to play LT to protect your franchsie investment. In Carrs first year here it was Chester Pitts vs the likes of Dwight Freeney, this year its Duane Brown vs the likes of James Harrison, Joes Porter, Jarret Allen.
I dunno, but that doesn't seem to be working out much better this time around than it did the first time ? Gotta be a smarter way to break in the
franchise QB ?

[popanot]

Originally Posted by nero THE zero

If a person with an IQ of 75 becomes aware of their intellectual deficiency, it doesn't mean they're on the way to MENSA membership.

Rosenfels is what he is. He's been that way for 8 years and he'll be that way for 8 more weeks.

If Keith revives the "Post of the Month" feature from the old HPF site within the next month, this is my nominee.

[NBT]

Schaub is what he is, a very good passer, but immobile as a statue in the pocket. Sage is very agile in the pocket, but doesn't have the innate talent that Schaub has to get the ball to the WR. If we could wrap up the good traits of both we would have a workable QB. Either that or get the best Oline in the league to protect Schaub.

I am getting tired of always having to make excuses for this team. They are now 7 years down the road, no longer can be called an expansion team, and yet they are still making expansion franchise mistakes. It's getting downright ridiculous. Do we need to get rid of everyone and start retooling? I hope not. However, something has got to be done to get this team off the schneid. McNair, it is time for you to step in and do what the supreme leader does.......lead. Put Kubiak on notice. Get this teams personnel up to snuff, and let's finally get a champion for this city!

[WMH]

They signed Nall to backup Rosenblunder.....
http://www.chron.com/disp/discuss.mp...94070.html?p=2


Question.......What happened to Shane Boyd? You know, the guy that spent the entire training camp/preseason with us? Did he get picked up somewhere?

[papabear]

Originally Posted by WMH

They signed Nall to backup Rosenblunder.....
http://www.chron.com/disp/discuss.mp...94070.html?p=2


Question.......What happened to Shane Boyd? You know, the guy that spent the entire training camp/preseason with us? Did he get picked up somewhere?

I thought about Boyd too, but I think they wanted someone with a little more experience. He looked decent in the pre-season a few times, but Boyd isn't shown on anyone roster right now. They must have just wanted more experience.

[dadmg]

Some more analysis on the Schaub injury, from Football Outsiders injury guy Will Carroll

While the anterior cruciate ligament gets all the attention, the medial collateral ligament might be the "it injury" in the NFL right now. Matt Schaub is the latest to injure his, costing him a month. Thought to be minor at the time of injury, Schaub's knee swelled up at halftime and ended up being a near-complete tear of the MCL. Schaub won't have surgery -- the current surgical standard is that the MCL is not replaced or even repaired unless absolutely necessary -- and after that month, there will still be some issues. A quarterback like Schaub who doesn't run is still affected by the MCL sprain in their dropback, which is essentially a lateral run, or more accurately, a carioca. If Schaub is a beat slow getting back or has trouble with his footwork in throws, it could be more than the original estimates or towards the long end.

[edo783]

Originally Posted by nero THE zero

If a person with an IQ of 75 becomes aware of their intellectual deficiency, it doesn't mean they're on the way to MENSA membership.

Rosenfels is what he is. He's been that way for 8 years and he'll be that way for 8 more weeks.

You might want to go see the clip then you would understand that he was pressing in order to overcome "The stigma" of being a backup QB as he put it. I am NO fan of Sage (like Matt a lot), but if he can get it to were he doesn't majorly screw up, we might be in modestly fair shape to have solid play at the QB position.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by edo783

You might want to go see the clip then you would understand that he was pressing in order to overcome "The stigma" of being a backup QB as he put it. I am NO fan of Sage (like Matt a lot), but if he can get it to were he doesn't majorly screw up, we might be in modestly fair shape to have solid play at the QB position.

So because his interview gives a reason for his mistakes he can change them? Do you honestly think he's going to say "I turn the ball over, that's who I am."

Sage has been around for a long time. If you hold your breath for him to start doing something he has never done before you will be in trouble. Last year he had 15 turnovers in 9 appearances. That means he had 1.6 turnovers per game (not to mention a few were relief appearances so they drive up the average even further). This year he has 4 turnovers in 1.5 games for an average of about 2.5 per game. No team can win while giving it away like he does.

With Schaub hurt again, I hate to admit that our longterm answer at QB probably isn't on our roster. And the current regime spent so much on schaub that they may not survive it if he turns out to not be the guy. This is scary, since a QB and HC change would put us back into rebuilding mode for the 3rd time without ever doing any winning.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by edo783

You might want to go see the clip then you would understand that he was pressing in order to overcome "The stigma" of being a backup QB as he put it.

So in essence he's trying to prove he's 'starter material' by taking unnecessary chances to the detriment of the team. Yeah, Sage, that makes a lot of sense.

[Joshua]

If it took Sage 8 years to learn that "Hey, turnovers are not a good thing for my team, maybe I shouldn't do that," then I think I know why he's never been given the chance to be a starter.

In all seriousness, every QB knows turnovers are the absolute worst thing you can do, that generally you shouldn't throw into double coverage, you shouldn't throw across your body (particularly when throwing back across the field), etc. Heck, most have known it since junior high. However, knowing it and not doing it in the heat of battle are 2 completely different things. Sage is who he is. I'm sure he knows all these things in the calm of a Monday afternoon interview. However, in the game, he takes unnecessary chances. Always has and always will. It's one reason he has never been, and likely never will be, a starter.

[NBT]

In the meantime Sage is our saviour for the next month. I wish him well. The Oline are not blocking for the pass as well as they did last year. JMHO

[popanot]

Anybody wanna bet Schaub's done for the year?

[Arky]

Originally Posted by popanot

Anybody wanna bet Schaub's done for the year?

Not me!

I'm OK with Sage for a while... People haven't quite forgiven him yet for choking away the Colt game but he did have some nice wins last year vs. Tampa Bay, Denver and Jacksonville.... So, he's got it in him.... just gotta hope the turnovers (and there will be some) aren't the game losing variety..

[Keith]

Originally Posted by popanot

Anybody wanna bet Schaub's done for the year?

Are you including playoffs, too?