How much longer.......

coloradodude · #1 10-22-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett

You can blame Smith (richard) for lots of things, but not our lack of good blitzing. That one falls at the feet of Smith (Rick) who has seen no need to upgrade the worst spot on the team (safety) in any of his 2+ seasons.

Good lord man! Rick Smith has been a little busy in changing/UPGRADING personnel since he's been here. The QB, the RB's, WR's, TE's, the O line, the D line, the LB's, and the secondary. With a few exceptions, this ENTIRE team has been upgraded...including the safeties.

We don't have first round picks at safety , but come on dude, the GM is actually putting forth the effort to make complete upgrades.

And if you don't think Polamula isn't coached up and told what to do, you're way wrong. This ordeal lies on our D coordinator's back.

He'll fail at his next gig too.

barrett · #2 10-22-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by coloradodude

Good lord man! Rick Smith has been a little busy in changing/UPGRADING personnel since he's been here. The QB, the RB's, WR's, TE's, the O line, the D line, the LB's, and the secondary. With a few exceptions, this ENTIRE team has been upgraded...including the safeties.

We don't have first round picks at safety , but come on dude, the GM is actually putting forth the effort to make complete upgrades.

And if you don't think Polamula isn't coached up and told what to do, you're way wrong. This ordeal lies on our D coordinator's back.

He'll fail at his next gig too.

Read the whole post man! Don't pull out a sentence. I said he is a bad D-Coordinator that can be blamed for a lot (though I think Kubs gets ultimate blame since it is his team and staff).

I also never said Smith (Rick) is doing a bad job. I think he has done very well for us on the whole. I just think he has ignored our single worst position since he got here (safety with OLB just behind). Now I can accept that our priorities are elsewhere. But if I am going to applaud the moves he is making at all of the other needed positions, then I am not going to then turn around and piss and moan when the guys he hasn't upgraded yet can't play.

I'd rather piss and moan that Smith (richard) can't get production out of our D-line where he does have players, or that none of his guys can properly tackle, or that our CBs still never get their head around to find the ball.

These are coaching issues. That our slow and unathletic Safeties and OLBs (the guys who blitz) can't effectively blitz is about personnell.

KJ3 · #3 10-23-2008, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by papabear

Flexible is good, not having any idea what you are trying to do is bad.

Richard Smith's evaluation could be wrapped up in that one sentence.

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Originally Posted by barrett

I just think he has ignored our single worst position since he got here (safety with OLB just behind).
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since Rick Smith came in he's drafted Harrison, Barber and picked up free agent Demps. Also drafted Diles, Adibi. Not exactly ignoring. You make good points but this one is kerrrrrplunked.

popanot · #4 10-23-2008, 07:51 AM

I don't think you need to use a Top-10 pick (which is where we've been drafting pretty much since Day 1) on a S. However, what I do think this team needs is a fast, intimidating LB (or 2) and I'd love to see them use a high pick (or 2) at LB. Look at the best D's and most if not all have a great LB corp. And most of the time it's the LB that makes the bone-jarring game changing defensive play. Christ, I'd nearly give anything to see someone on this D' knock the snot out of an opposing player. I can't even remember the last time that happend - and I'm not including TJ's hit on Green because that doesn't qualify as a direct hit, IMO. I won't even get into the Richard Smith discussion because everyone not named Kubiak knows he sucks and it's beating a dead horse at this point.

barrett · #5 10-23-2008, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KJ3

Richard Smith's evaluation could be wrapped up in that one sentence.

since Rick Smith came in he's drafted Harrison, Barber and picked up free agent Demps. Also drafted Diles, Adibi. Not exactly ignoring. You make good points but this one is kerrrrrplunked.

A 6th and 7th round pick, and signing a street free agent in the middle of the season does not equal fixing a problem. Nice use of the word Kerplunked though.

We had the worst safeties in football when he got here and they are still awful after we made no real effort to upgrade.

At OLB we were terrible then added Diles (ufa) and then this year finally adibi. Adibi marks the first time we have spent a resource at either of these positions since signing (foolishly) morlon greenwood years ago. And the guy has barely gotten on the field. When we start getting some talent in these spots our ability to blitz the QB will improve. Kind of like when we got talent at QB we could throw the ball, talent at RB and we could run it, etc...

If we get talent at those spots and still can't blitz I will blame Richard Smith for it. Until then I will blame him for the many problems that are his fault.

nero THE zero · #6 10-23-2008, 12:25 PM

Diles was a 7th round draft choice, FTR

NBT · #7 10-28-2008, 01:00 PM

"gap penetration, containment, coverage, or tackling" - If we could have been doing these things we would be contending for first in our division, IMO. These are the things we are going to have to do to beat Minnesota, our next opponent.

cadams · #8 10-28-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NBT

"gap penetration, containment, coverage, or tackling" - If we could have been doing these things we would be contending for first in our division, IMO. These are the things we are going to have to do to beat Minnesota, our next opponent.

there is no question about that. they texans are 2 plays away from a 5-2 record.

1. 4th and 8 against jax at the end of the game when they let gerrard run for 9 yards.

and

2. the "sage play"

ahh, to dream. unfortunately it doesn't matter since they didnt make either, but man it is frustrating to think what could have been

KJ3 · #9 10-23-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett

A 6th and 7th round pick, and signing a street free agent in the middle of the season does not equal fixing a problem. Nice use of the word Kerplunked though.

We had the worst safeties in football when he got here and they are still awful after we made no real effort to upgrade.
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it was a 5th (Harrison) and a 6th (Barber) and the street free agent who was clearly an immediate upgrade as he hasn't left the starting spot since he got it. i'm not saying he's great, i'm saying he's exactly what you won't recognize: an upgrade at S.

just wondering, what exactly equals effort to you?

NBT · #10 10-23-2008, 01:42 PM

Look how long we picked on C.C. Brown for 4 years, and then when he was finally starting to show some promise at the position, he got hurt. Same more or less, could have been said for Glenn Earl. Harrison is starting for the first time, and while Demps has been a pro, this is only the second year for him in our system. Barber, of course, has yet to see the field. My point is we can't seem to find any stability at our safety positions. That being said, they need to start coming on and doing more for us to succeed this year, if we are going to.

papabear · #11 10-23-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NBT

Look how long we picked on C.C. Brown for 4 years, and then when he was finally starting to show some promise at the position, he got hurt. Same more or less, could have been said for Glenn Earl. Harrison is starting for the first time, and while Demps has been a pro, this is only the second year for him in our system. Barber, of course, has yet to see the field. My point is we can't seem to find any stability at our safety positions. That being said, they need to start coming on and doing more for us to succeed this year, if we are going to.

The best way to have stability at a position is to get someone good to play there.

barrett · #12 10-23-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KJ3

it was a 5th (Harrison) and a 6th (Barber) and the street free agent who was clearly an immediate upgrade as he hasn't left the starting spot since he got it. i'm not saying he's great, i'm saying he's exactly what you won't recognize: an upgrade at S.

just wondering, what exactly equals effort to you?

Lets make it easy. Yes or No. Does anyone think we have good NFL safeties? Does anyone think we have good NFL OLBs?

papabear · #13 10-23-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett

Lets make it easy. Yes or No. Does anyone think we have good NFL safeties? Does anyone think we have good NFL OLBs?

I don't think anyone does, especially at Safety. Look at it this way though...any upgrade at Safety probably comes at the cost of another upgrade (or at least a shot at an upgrade) for another position. It wasn't like Smith only had two holes to fill when he got here.