Texans Trade for LT Laremy Tunsil

[Keith]

Split the Tunsil trade discussion from the Clowney thread.

Quite possibly one of the most if not the most amazing days as a Texans fan. So much to digest.

The Tunsil trade only makes sense if the Texans sign him long term, and the thought is that the team is positioned to offer Tunsil an incredible contract.

Was it expensive? To the point it was painful? Yes. But... what is a franchise LT worth? Followng the surprising early retirement of an anguished Andrew Luck, what is the health of your young quarterback worth? If it meant bringing a healthy Luck back, what would the Colts have paid for such a left tackle?

The armchair GM in all of us really understands the value of draft picks. But the draft is and will continue to be a crapshoot. Tunsil's value is understood. Watson's value as a healthy QB is even better understood.

[HPF Bob]

To think, if the Texans (meaning the previous GM) had just moved up a spot to draft the LT from Washington St. instead of watching the Eagles leap up and grab him, this whole exercise would have never happened. I just hope by the time of the 2021 draft we still think Bong Boy is an elite LT. Otherwise, this trade will make the Clowney trade appear sane.

And Stills? I just hope he can stay healthy, unlike Will the Thrill and KK Cutie. All we need is somebody who can take some pressure of D-Hop without winding up on IR. Can anyone step up, please?

It certainly leaves open the possibility that the Texans will trade D-Hop next spring to get some of those draft picks back.

[chuck]

Kenny Stills kneels during the anthem, you know. Nexans gonna love that.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by chuck

Kenny Stills kneels during the anthem, you know. Nexans gonna love that.

Considering the team went out and got him while he was not just kneeling but attacking the NFL on social justice and the JayZ deal... and I haven't seen a peep anywhere about it, you may be projecting here.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by barrett

Considering the team went out and got him while he was not just kneeling but attacking the NFL on social justice and the JayZ deal... and I haven't seen a peep anywhere about it, you may be projecting here.

Apparently the founders son has a much different and more tolerant attitude about such issues than the old man did ?

[barrett]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Apparently the founders son has a much different and more tolerant attitude about such issues than the old man did ?

That's my hope.

[HPF Bob]

...or maybe a lot of fans saw these two trades and decided why the (bleep) should they care about this team anymore? This GM the Texans are so hellbent on waiting for may not have a team or any draft choices by the time he gets into office.

#dumpsterfire

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

To think, if the Texans (meaning the previous GM) had just moved up a spot to draft the LT from Washington St. instead of watching the Eagles leap up and grab him, this whole exercise would have never happened. I just hope by the time of the 2021 draft we still think Bong Boy is an elite LT. Otherwise, this trade will make the Clowney trade appear sane.

And Stills? I just hope he can stay healthy, unlike Will the Thrill and KK Cutie. All we need is somebody who can take some pressure of D-Hop without winding up on IR. Can anyone step up, please?

It certainly leaves open the possibility that the Texans will trade D-Hop next spring to get some of those draft picks back.

Not to worry because the wily coach O'Brien might put together a package of Watkins & JJ Watt to finesse a third round pick from his x-coach in Boston.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Keith

Split the Tunsil trade discussion from the Clowney thread.

Quite possibly one of the most if not the most amazing days as a Texans fan. So much to digest.

The Tunsil trade only makes sense if the Texans sign him long term, and the thought is that the team is positioned to offer Tunsil an incredible contract.

Was it expensive? To the point it was painful? Yes. But... what is a franchise LT worth? Followng the surprising early retirement of an anguished Andrew Luck, what is the health of your young quarterback worth? If it meant bringing a healthy Luck back, what would the Colts have paid for such a left tackle?

The armchair GM in all of us really understands the value of draft picks. But the draft is and will continue to be a crapshoot. Tunsil's value is understood. Watson's value as a healthy QB is even better understood.

The Tunsil trade in a vacuum is not terrible. It's an overpay, but it's an overpay at one of the two positions where an overpay is acceptable.

The bigger problem is (1) tanking Clowney's value when he could have recouped half of what you spent on Tunsil if you traded him 2 months ago. Then (2) spending a 1st and a 2nd on OTs who will now not play LT. If you traded for Tunsil 2 months ago then you don't waste those picks and you let Tunsil learn the offense and his OL teammates instead of showing up before week 1.

It all demonstrates a total lack of long term planning. The kind of thing you'd expect of a GM who isn't solely (and rightly) focused on getting ready for 2019 games. There is a reason coaches don't have GM power anymore. They are 2 very different jobs.