2019 Training Camp Thread

[Keith]

And no offense to Harris, but I much prefer our collective camp insights. We are not on the Texans payroll, nor do we depend on media access to put food on our tables.

I'm rather interested to hear how the OL develops over the next couple weeks.

This team has the potential to be 5-11 or 11-5. Hard to remember a season where I had as tough a time figuring out their squad.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Keith

And no offense to Harris, but I much prefer our collective camp insights. We are not on the Texans payroll, nor do we depend on media access to put food on our tables.

I'm rather interested to hear how the OL develops over the next couple weeks.

This team has the potential to be 5-11 or 11-5. Hard to remember a season where I had as tough a time figuring out their squad.

To me that's the Deshaun Watson effect.

Whatever flaw I see, no matter how big, I can imagine Watson making that flaw irrelevant with his special play. I honestly think the best he has played is already better than any QB in the NFL. And if he does it enough to make the playoffs and then has a hot month I think we win the super bowl in spite of our 5-11 talent.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by barrett

To me that's the Deshaun Watson effect.

Whatever flaw I see, no matter how big, I can imagine Watson making that flaw irrelevant with his special play. I honestly think the best he has played is already better than any QB in the NFL. And if he does it enough to make the playoffs and then has a hot month I think we win the super bowl in spite of our 5-11 talent.

Wow barrett didn't know you had so much confidance in the Texans or maybe I should say Watson ? I don't see Watson even in the conversation with Mahomes as the top young QB in the league so surprised to see you say his best is better than all the others ?
I hope you are right about everything you say because nothing I'd like better than seeing the Texans make it to the SB.

[barrett]

Watson isn't the player Mahomes is at this point. Mahomes gets rid of the ball on time and makes off schedule plays. By getting rid of the ball he passes on the play making to big time play makers and lets them get hit.

Too often Watson holds the ball in anticipation of making an off schedule play. If he had a TE or RB who could make a play for him then that might improve some. Right now he has nobody in the short passing game and it makes him reliant on downfield big plays and intermediate plays. He needs to learn to let a play go and get them on the next one. His amazing talent leads him to think every play can be a winner.

But Watson combines one of the best deep balls in the league with the most escapability and that combo terrorizes defenses. They are left to defend for longer then 3 seconds against a guy who can drop a ball on the WRs head anywhere on the field. Put a healthy Will Fuller on the field for 16 games and I wouldn't be shocked to see him produce Mahomes numbers. Give him the full package of talent Mahomes plays with and I think he breaks the NFL even before he totally figures things out.

[barrett]

Foreman Cut.

We have zero talent at the position that is easiest and cheapest to acquire talent. Super weird.

[HPF Bob]

CBS (and likely others) see it as an opening to acquire Melvin Gordon in trade with LAC.

[Joshua]

You don't need to cut Foreman to go after Gordon. One has nothing to do with the other, as one would be the starter making millions and the other is rookie deal back-up making 3rd round money.

And I would be very surprised if they make any run at Gordon considering the amount of draft capital it would take to acquire him as well as the contract he's after.

Seems like just the latest in a string of bumbling moves by them. It had been reported that he was not the most diligent rehabber and that their were some attitude issues. Throw in the fact that he was recovering from arguably the worst injury a RB can suffer, you would think the Texans would have done something to prepare for the possibility that he wouldn't cut it. But no, here we are again with a position group completely and predictably decimated.