Getting Closer to Draft Weekend Mock

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Ok I played trade down and get lots of picks. IMO I have to many picks.
First the trades

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
TEXANS SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 23

RECEIVED:

ROUND: 2 PICK: 24
ROUND: 2 PICK: 32
ROUND: 3 PICK: 33
ROUND: 3 PICK: 37

TRADE PARTNER:
LA RAMS
TEXANS SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 24

RECEIVED:

ROUND: 3 PICK: 30
ROUND: 3 PICK: 35
ROUND: 4 PICK: 31
ROUND: 5 PICK: 31
ROUND: 6 PICK: 30
ROUND: 7 PICK: 37

Picks

54: R2P22 S JOHNATHAN ABRAM MISS. STATE
55: R2P23 CB JULIAN LOVE NOTRE DAME
64: R2P32 C ELGTON JENKINS MISS. STATE
86: R3P22 CB ISAIAH JOHNSON HOUSTON
94: R3P30 G CONNOR MCGOVERN PENN ST.
97: R3P33 RB DARRELL HENDERSON MEMPHIS
99: R3P35 OT DENNIS DALEY SOUTH CAROLINA
101: R3P37 DL ANTHONY NELSON IOWA
133: R4P31 WR JALEN HURD BAYLOR
161: R5P23 RB BRYCE LOVE STANFORD
169: R5P31 EDGE SHAREEF MILLER PENN ST.
195: R6P22 LB JOE GILES-HARRIS DUKE
203: R6P30 QB GARDNER MINSHEW WASHINGTON STATE
220: R7P6 CB JAMAL PETERS MISS. STATE
251: R7P37 TE CJ CONRAD KENTUCKY

Way to many picks, no way the team can keep 2/3 of the picks. The OTs were gone by the 54th pick, Had to reach for a guy at 99. So I don't like the deep drop trade down, early 2nd might be a better place. I could have traded back up but wanted to see the mock play out.

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Another attempt.

23: R1P23 OT KALEB MCGARY WASHINGTON
54: R2P22 OT YODNY CAJUSTE WEST VIRGINIA
55: R2P23 CB AMANI ORUWARIYE PENN ST.
86: R3P22 CB ISAIAH JOHNSON HOUSTON
161: R5P23 TE ISAAC NAUTA GEORGIA
195: R6P22 G NATE HERBIG STANFORD
220: R7P6 S MALIK GANT MARSHALL

Two big OT might have growing pains but they can push each other. McGary is a big man, and Cajuste is a very strong handed man.
Got two CB, not a fast draft class and was not impressed at the combine with the class of CB, so I took two back to back cause i need young numbers.

I will consider the Texans draft a success if they get 2OL and 2CB in the first 5 picks. They don't have to take the guys I have picked just get some numbers and coach them up.

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23: R1P23 OT ANDRE DILLARD WASHINGTON STATE
54: R2P22 OT TYTUS HOWARD ALABAMA STATE
55: R2P23 CB ROCK YA-SIN TEMPLE
86: R3P22 OT YODNY CAJUSTE WEST VIRGINIA
161: R5P23 CB LONNIE JOHNSON KENTUCKY
195: R6P22 RB JAMES WILLIAMS WASHINGTON STATE
220: R7P6 WR DAVID SILLS WVU

3 of the the first 4 picks on OTs? Why? by 2020 the OL could be Dillard at LT, Ranking at LG, Martin at OC, Cajuste at RG, Howard at RT. Then BOB and Devlin will have the size and youth they need. Plus that would be 4 OL starters playing on rookie deals.

Not saying I want them to do this, but our greatest asset is Watson, and they need to get him some beef up front that can stop the pounding. Look at the difference a great draft had on the Colts OL, could we have a similar type jump with our offense?

I know we need DBs, but IMO having 3 stud CBs on the field will not matter if Watson is taking a pounding and Bill is going max protect on every play. Give Watson time and a clean middle of the pocket and look out AFC.

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I'm seeing more and more mocks with Dillard going around 15-18...and Rock Ya-Sin is gaining a lot of ground and could be one of the 1st CBs taken. Casserly, of all people, has had him in the 1st all draft season long and now everyone else is starting to agree.

If you were the Texans and liked a guy like Dillard, would you be willing to give up one of your 2nds to move up to the mid-teens to draft him?

Its a little too steep for me. I don't think I would do it.

I think I would rather stay put or trade back a little and take one of the OGs or Greg Little.

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Related to my post above...I just did a mock and traded back with GB when Hockenson fell to me but all the 1st rd OTs were gone. I was only able to get a 4th and 7th from GB to trade back 7 slots...should have been more...

30: R1P30 G CHRIS LINDSTROM BOSTON COLLEGE
54: R2P22 OT GREG LITTLE OLE MISS
55: R2P23 CB JULIAN LOVE NOTRE DAME
86: R3P22 CB AMANI ORUWARIYE PENN STATE
114: R4P12 RB DARRELL HENDERSON MEMPHIS
161: R5P23 LB CAMERON SMITH USC
195: R6P22 WR HUNTER RENFROW CLEMSON
220: R7P6 DL MICHAEL DOGBE TEMPLE
226: R7P12 S EVAN WORTHINGTON COLORADO

TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 23
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 4 PICK: 12
ROUND: 7 PICK: 12

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Originally Posted by bikerack

If you were the Texans and liked a guy like Dillard, would you be willing to give up one of your 2nds to move up to the mid-teens to draft him?

Its a little too steep for me. I don't think I would do it.

I almost think I would be willing to Trade Up. But only if they think he is a future All Pro. There are about three guys after Dillard, that I think can be good starters in the next couple years. Not great, but good.

But I am more inclined to want one or two more picks, so a trade down would be preferred. But I want to stay in the 1st round.

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According to the draft trade chart I usually use (http://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp), this trade would be fair...

Texans send #23 and #55 (1,110 pts) to Carolina for #16 and #100 (1,100 pts).

I think I would pull the trigger on that...assuming the guy at #16 is going to be an impact player for years to come.

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I tried the above trade with Carolina, but they wouldn't send me pick #100. They did make the trade sending me their 4th rounder along with #16 (1,064 pts total). This is how the first 4 rounds went...

16: R1P16 OT ANDRE DILLARD WASHINGTON STATE (Jawaan Taylor also was there and Carolina took him at 23...LOL)
54: R2P22 CB ROCK YA-SIN TEMPLE
86: R3P22 OT TYTUS HOWARD ALABAMA STATE
115: R4P13 RB MILES SANDERS PENN STATE

TRADES
TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 23
ROUND: 2 PICK: 23
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 16
ROUND: 4 PICK: 13


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Edited to add: I tried it again and was able to get them to include their 6th rounder as well...

[HPF Bob]

On The Clock wouldn't let me deal with the Panthers but I traded up with the Giants for #17 and a 4th for our 1st and 2nd. That left us with one pick in every round. I then went and made two trade-downs, one in the second and one in the 4th that netted two more 5th-rounders. The result:

17: R1P17 OT ANDRE DILLARD, WASHINGTON STATE

Given he was #20 on the big board I had, I don't think he would have lasted to #23.

61: R2P29 G MICHAEL DEITER, WISCONSIN

Versatile guard/tackle who should win a spot somewhere.

86: R3P22 CB ISAIAH JOHNSON, HOUSTON

Our local kid, small and raw but with real upside.

118: R4P16 DL DAYLON MACK, TEXAS A&M

Fireplug for the NT spot.

150: R5P12 RB BENNY SNELL JR., KENTUCKY

Bryce Love was gone but I am happy to have this kid.

161: R5P23 WR HUNTER RENFROW, CLEMSON

Right about where I usually take him.

167: R5P29 OT ISAIAH PRINCE, OHIO STATE

Adding more o-line depth. You figure if he's a Buckeye he's got some cred.

195: R6P22 LB JOE GILES-HARRIS, DUKE

Inside LB who often goes higher in mocks.

220: R7P6 S EVAN WORTHINGTON, COLORADO

Late riser who fills safety hole.

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW YORK GIANTS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 23
ROUND: 2 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 17
ROUND: 4 PICK: 6

TRADE PARTNER:
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 23

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 29
ROUND: 5 PICK: 29

TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS
SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 6

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 16
ROUND: 5 PICK: 12