Texans Week 1 vs. Patriots

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Arky

That's all true. However, I was (nicely) calling it luck when it was more about O'Brien not doing his best.... It's one thing to lose when their team is better than your team. It's a another when the coach doesn't make the best decisions or get the best out of his players... I don't think O'Brien's personal game grade has ever been very good up there.... And I'm hoping he can improve that.

Last year he showed up with a rookie QB making his 2nd start. Said rookie QB had played a terrible half at home against Jacksonville and had muddled his way to a 13-9 win against Cincy before losing a 36-33 game at New England. That's a pretty good showing for any coach in the circumstances.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by barrett

Last year he showed up with a rookie QB making his 2nd start. Said rookie QB had played a terrible half at home against Jacksonville and had muddled his way to a 13-9 win against Cincy before losing a 36-33 game at New England. That's a pretty good showing for any coach in the circumstances.

Yep, good job by Watson but still an "L". I seem to recall one game where OB spent 3 quarters trying to run it down their throats with no success. May have been the Brockweiler at QB.....

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Arky

Yep, good job by Watson but still an "L". I seem to recall one game where OB spent 3 quarters trying to run it down their throats with no success. May have been the Brockweiler at QB.....

3 quarters running the ball with Brock at QB sounds like smart coaching.

Either way I find it funny that to you, when a good QB plays well it's good job QB and when a bad QB plays poorly it's bad job coach.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by barrett

3 quarters running the ball with Brock at QB sounds like smart coaching.

Either way I find it funny that to you, when a good QB plays well it's good job QB and when a bad QB plays poorly it's bad job coach.

Brock played poorly most of the time but OB was super conservative in that game. Way too conservative. I put the game plan on OB and the Brock-suck on Brock... Final score was 27-0. Brock threw for 196. You can't get more conservative than scoring zero.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Arky

Brock played poorly most of the time but OB was super conservative in that game. Way too conservative. I put the game plan on OB and the Brock-suck on Brock... Final score was 27-0. Brock threw for 196. You can't get more conservative than scoring zero.

So poor QB play is partially on the coach but good QB play is entirely the player. Got it.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by barrett

So poor QB play is partially on the coach but good QB play is entirely the player. Got it.

If that's the way you want to fill in the blank, be my guest.

Sure, in last year's game, maybe OB didn't really screw things up with Watson at the helm. But in the past, he has. My point all along has been that OB has puckered up in Foxboro (minus the Watson game. Happy?) He's gonna get another chance to get it right. I hope he unleashes the hounds....

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Arky

If that's the way you want to fill in the blank, be my guest.

Sure, in last year's game, maybe OB didn't really screw things up with Watson at the helm. But in the past, he has. My point all along has been that OB has puckered up in Foxboro (minus the Watson game. Happy?) He's gonna get another chance to get it right. I hope he unleashes the hounds....

I'm not filling in blanks, I'm reading exactly what you write. Even here you say "he didn't screw things up." That's the best you can say about putting up 33 in NE. You are ascribing bad QB play to the coach without ascribing good QB play to the coach.

Either the Head Coach is responsible or he isn't. You can't get all of the blame and none of the credit.